Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

The only guy capable of beating Yates is Haney. No one can prove me wrong because it actually happened.

I think if Yates came back they way he looked in 92 and Haney returned in the same shape he did in 91 he could beat Yates but 1993 even Haney couldn't beat Yates .

[Iceman1981]

argumentum ad populum (Latin: "appeal to the people"), in logic, is a fallacious argument that concludes a proposition to be true because many or all people believe it; it alleges that "If many believe so, it is so."

Your opinion no matter how numerous don't mean your right  , its weak logic.

It's not my opinion alone. It's the majority of people on bodybuilding websites that crushes your whole argument.

No, by your logic, for example:

"People vote for a President. The person with the most votes wins and becomes President and the people with the least votes lose right?" Using your logic, the person with the most votes does not win and should not be president.

Now tell me, who's logic makes more sense? Yours or the rest of the world?

[NarcissisticDeity]

It's not my opinion alone. It's the majority of people on bodybuilding websites that crushes your whole argument.

No, by your logic, for example:

"People vote for a President. The person with the most votes wins and becomes President and the people with the least votes lose right?" Using your logic, the person with the most votes does not win and should not be president.

Now tell me, who's logic makes more sense? Yours or the rest of the world?

Again its still an opinion its NOT fact fans don't judge contests , they are influence by bias , personal preference , ignorance , your polls simple mean more people think ( keyword ) Ronnie is better it doesn't mean he is or he would be able to beat Dorian in a contest judges by JUDGES the popular opinion is faulty logic.

[Hulkster]

It's not my opinion alone. It's the majority of people on bodybuilding websites that crushes your whole argument.

yes, and according to ND, all these people are ignorant and uneducated about how phyisques are judged..

 

[suckmymuscle]

"People vote for a President. The person with the most votes wins and becomes President and the people with the least votes lose right?" Using your logic, the person with the most votes does not win and should not be president.

Now tell me, who's logic makes more sense? Yours or the rest of the world?

  What a retarded argumentation! Elections are all about preference, not about establishing the truth. People vote for whom they want, just like in bodybuilding polls. It is completely different from the situation of Dorian vs Ronnie, for which there is an objective criteria to be observed, and thus who wins is not decided by votes and popular opinion but by logic.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Hulkster]

Again its still an opinion its NOT fact fans don't judge contests , they are influence by bias , personal preference , ignorance , your polls simple mean more people think ( keyword ) Ronnie is better it doesn't mean he is or he would be able to beat Dorian in a contest judges by JUDGES the popular opinion is faulty logic.

well what other option to we have to go by? We have no time machines here.

peak dorian never came close to stepping onstage with peak Ronnie.

so the excellent comparison shots are all we have to go by.

they are a clear indicator that chances are, dorian would lose.
 

[NarcissisticDeity]

well what other option to we have to go by? We have no time machines here.

peak dorian never came close to stepping onstage with peak Ronnie.

so the excellent comparison shots are all we have to go by.

they are a clear indicator that chances are, dorian would lose.
 

I know Ronnie was closer to his peak than Dorian was to his when they faced each other and Ronnie ( this we know for a fact ) was destroyed by a Yates with a bloated gut , a torn bicep/tricep/quad lol imagine injury free how he would fair with a slightly bigger Ronnie with improved conditioning? lol

[JOHN MATRIX]

so you guys are saying ronnie and dorian are about even? am i getting this right?

[NarcissisticDeity]

so you guys are saying ronnie and dorian are about even? am i getting this right?

At their respective bests they both have the ability to beat each other anyone who argues otherwise is fooling themselves .

[Iceman1981]

 Here's a list of retarded things that the Coleman spooge-suckers have claiming several times:

- That Ronnie was more dominant than Dorian, even though Dorian had five out of six straight-firsts Olympia victories while he had less.


 Not only that, most of them are biased towards the 2003 showing of Coleman, his second worse performance ever besides 2004.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Most undisputed Mr Olympia era?
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3613471&highlight=most+dominant+Mr.+Olympia

Well if you think that an 03 Ronnie was his second worst performance, start a new thread about it and let's all watch the whole board own your a$$

[Iceman1981]

Again its still an opinion its NOT fact fans don't judge contests , they are influence by bias , personal preference , ignorance , your polls simple mean more people think ( keyword ) Ronnie is better it doesn't mean he is or he would be able to beat Dorian in a contest judges by JUDGES the popular opinion is faulty logic.

Sure it is 

You haven't replied about your stupid logic that I just showed you.

[delta9mda]

The only guy capable of beating Yates is Haney. No one can prove me wrong because it actually happened.

benaziza, but hes dead

[suckmymuscle]

Most undisputed Mr Olympia era?

Well if you think that an 03 Ronnie was his second worst performance, start a new thread about it and let's all watch the whole board own your a$$

  I have already stated that this is not a matter of personal opinion. I don't give two shits about your polls. Dorian was the most dominant Mr.Olympia ever because he won 5 out of his six Sandows with straight-firsts scores. The I.F.B.B claimed him as the most dominant ever, and this is all that matters. As for Coleman 2003, people like him because they're blown away by his size and just ignore just how much better a 250 lbs Coleman or 260 lbs Dorian looked.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Iceman1981]

yes, and according to ND, all these people are ignorant and uneducated about how phyisques are judged..

 

I would sure like to see ND go on those threads and tell everyone who voted for Ronnie that they are all biased, dumb and don't know squat about bodybuilding.

He doesn't have the balls to do it. He will just look stupid, like how he usually does.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Sure it is 

You haven't replied about your stupid logic that I just showed you.

Its not my stupid logic its yours lol this is analogousto your stupid claim

Since 88% of the people polled believed in UFOs, they must exist.

popular opinion doesn't mean its so , period.

[Iceman1981]

 What a retarded argumentation! Elections are all about preference, not about establishing the truth. People vote for whom they want, just like in bodybuilding polls. It is completely different from the situation of Dorian vs Ronnie, for which there is an objective criteria to be observed, and thus who wins is not decided by votes and popular opinion but by logic.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

You actually typed that shyt and believed it? LOL.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I would sure like to see ND go on those threads and tell everyone who voted for Ronnie that they are all biased, dumb and don't know squat about bodybuilding.

He doesn't have the balls to do it. He will just look stupid, like how he usually does.

Yawn I don't travel let them come here like all the other ignorant compatriots that have come and gone and have fallen by the way side , NONE OF YOU knew the IFBB judging criteria until I posted and even after the fact you guys still don't get it , I do research I cover my bases I don't rely on popular opinion or ignorance and they best part is I'm more than willing to admit I may be wrong and I'm not as ignorant to say that Ronnie doesn't stand a chance thats why I'm smarter than you guys because I'm knowldegeable , researched and UNBIASED . 

[Iceman1981]

 I have already stated that this is not a matter of personal opinion. I don't give two shits about your polls. Dorian was the most dominant Mr.Olympia ever because he won 5 out of his six Sandows with straight-firsts scores. The I.F.B.B claimed him as the most dominant ever, and this is all that matters. As for Coleman 2003, people like him because they're blown away by his size and just ignore just how much better a 250 lbs Coleman or 260 lbs Dorian looked.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Sure. when yates loose in the polls it doesn't mean anything, LOL.

Like I said. Start a new thread about how bad a 03 Ronnie looked (as you said). You brought up the topic. Be a man and do it.

[suckmymuscle]

Sure it is 

You haven't replied about your stupid logic that I just showed you.

  No, it is you who compared a presidential election to deciding who is better between Dorian and Ronnie. Again, in a political election or poll, people vote for whom they prefer. The problem is that this a discussion for which there is an objective critria to decide who's best, thus making the victory of Coleman over Dorian on your polls irrelevant. It is you who are being illogical by comparing a presidential election, which is completley decided by opinion, to a discussion for that is decided by an objective criteria.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Iceman1981]

Yawn I don't travel let them come here like all the other ignorant compatriots that have come and gone and have fallen by the way side , NONE OF YOU knew the IFBB judging criteria until I posted and even after the fact you guys still don't get it , I do research I cover my bases I don't rely on popular opinion or ignorance and they best part is I'm more than willing to admit I may be wrong and I'm not as ignorant to say that Ronnie doesn't stand a chance thats why I'm smarter than you guys because I'm knowldegeable , researched and UNBIASED . 

So I take it your PUSSYING OUT

As usual

[RocketSwitch625]

I think if Yates came back they way he looked in 92 and Haney returned in the same shape he did in 91 he could beat Yates but 1993 even Haney couldn't beat Yates .

I agree but the funny thing is these Coleman nuthuggers also say that Haney was overrated. Where are they coming from?

[Iceman1981]

 No, it is you who compared a presidential election to deciding who is better between Dorian and Ronnie. Again, in a political election or poll, people vote for whom they prefer. The problem is that this a discussion for which there is an objective critria to decide who's best, thus making the victory of Coleman over Dorian on your polls irrelevant. It is you who are being illogical by comparing a presidential election, which is completley decided by opinion, to a discussion for that is decided by an objective criteria.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

In case you haven't noticed, this thread is about public opinion. The public voted for Ronnie. Do you get it now?

[NarcissisticDeity]

So I take it your PUSSYING OUT

As usual

Oh yes I'm afraid to back up my opinion 1311 pages later lol wow your just a batting 1000 with your thoughts today lol

[WOOO]

i think about ET alot... i mean he was one ugly alien

[Hulkster]

Its not my stupid logic its yours lol this is analogousto your stupid claim

Since 88% of the people polled believed in UFOs, they must exist.

popular opinion doesn't mean its so , period.

there is no concrete evidence for UFO's.

there is lots of concrete evidence that Ronnie is better than Dorian. Some of it was shown in the polls where dorian was crushed.

Please tell me you are smart enough to understand this difference? I really hope so..