Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NeoSeminole]

So having 0.4% of the body's muscle mass defective is more relevant than having 3% of the body's muscle mass defective?

Re-read Hulkster's comment. He said that Dorian's biceps comprised 0.4% of his body due to their poor size after you claimed the biceps make up 3% of the body. You're in danger of matching ND's level of reading comprehension.

[NarcissisticDeity]

no, they are not equal in muscularity at their respective bests. Ronnie in 03 outweighed 95 Dorian by 30 lbs. Since muscle weighs more than either water or fat, and Jay in 03 weighed close to 260 lbs (Dorian's weight), it's safe to assume a better conditioned Dorian would look even smaller at the same weight since muscle takes up less space.

wrong, Dorian had a torn bicep, missing upper pecs, a huge barrel torso and narrow quads. At best, Dorian had comparable symmetry issues as Ronnie.

muscular definition is part of the official IFBB judging criteria. Show me where it asks for granite hardness.

not on stage (you know? Where the actual judging takes place).









Ronnie has better taper in the following poses:

- front relaxed
- back relaxed
- front double biceps
- back double biceps
- back lat spread

Nice slanted comparison Dorian is totally relaxed and Ronnie is held firm , I shouldn't have expected more from you Neo.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Re-read Hulkster's comment. He said that Dorian's biceps comprised 0.4% of his body due to their poor size after you claimed the biceps make up 3% of the body. You're in danger of matching ND's level of reading comprehension.

My comprehension is just fine unlike your comparison and scaling abilities 

[NeoSeminole]

Nice slanted comparison Dorian is totally relaxed and Ronnie is held firm , I shouldn't have expected more from you Neo.

I can only post pics that I have. If you have better pics of 95 Dorian hitting those poses, then by all means post them here for all to see. Otherwise, don't complain.

[NeoSeminole]

My comprehension is just fine unlike your comparison and scaling abilities

coming from the guy who made these.



I cut out the image of Dorian he used and compared it to the original pic.



suddenly Dorian is taller than Ronnie.



notice how Ronnie's head changes shape in one comparison to the next.





Ronnie has a narrower waist at 287 lbs than Melvin Anthony.

[NarcissisticDeity]

coming from the guy who made these.

I never claimed they were perfect thats the difference between you and I 

[NeoSeminole]

I never claimed they were perfect thats the difference between you and I

epic lie to make yourself look better. Show me where I claimed my comparisons are perfect.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I can only post pics that I have. If you have better pics of 95 Dorian hitting those poses, then by all means post them here for all to see. Otherwise, don't complain.

Poor excuse ( your fond of them ) there are plenty of pics of Yates with his midsection held firm from 95 already posted and I'm sure you know that but being the typical Coleman fan you feel compelled to slant the comparison in your favor or what you think is your favor.

[Hulkster]

This statement shows how little you know about competitive bodybuilding MAN you're clueless lol judges DO NOT I repeat DO NOT get paid to judge contests , they are reimbursed for travel expenses and such but they take home NO pay for judging , kid you're looking very stupid right now lol

the judges are typically unpaid, but I can assure you if they are sitting on the olympia judging panel, they are probably recieving some sort of compensation from the IFBB above and beyond simple room and board.

and besides, its not all about money.

if they want to keep their spot on the panel, they will do whatever the IFBB wants.

[NarcissisticDeity]

epic lie to make yourself look better. Show me where I claimed my comparisons are perfect.

I look great without lying  your people think judges take a pay check from Weider lol and the fact that you keep posting the same lame comparison shows you thinks its just fine .


This joke 

[suckmymuscle]

Re-read Hulkster's comment. He said that Dorian's biceps comprised 0.4% of his body due to their poor size after you claimed the biceps make up 3% of the body. You're in danger of matching ND's level of reading comprehension.

  In any case, Dorian's untorn biceps probably was 3% of the body's mass. My point is that having a smaller biceps because it's torn is not that relevant because in any way it would represent 3% of the body's mass even if it were untorn, which makes it a very small portion of the body's mass.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

the judges are typically unpaid, but I can assure you if they are sitting on the olympia judging panel, they are probably recieving some sort of compensation from the IFBB above and beyond simple room and board.

and besides, its not all about money.

if they want to keep their spot on the panel, they will do whatever the IFBB wants.

typical Hulkster backpeddle NOW you're stating the obvious judges are unpaid which contradicts your statement above , you're clueless I can't believe you thought the judges got a pay check lol man you're ignorant lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

the judges are typically unpaid, but I can assure you if they are sitting on the olympia judging panel, they are probably recieving some sort of compensation from the IFBB above and beyond simple room and board.

and besides, its not all about money.

if they want to keep their spot on the panel, they will do whatever the IFBB wants.

well, one big thing that they have working for them is that they can be objective because they are not getting a paycheck from the company who owns the entire organization...eg. if a judge thought dorian looked like garbage, but gets paid from Joe Weider who wants dorian to win, what is the judge going to do? score him down? no fucking way.

secondly, show me the "credentials" of a bb judge..lol 


I'm not even back a day and Hulkster is already owned lol Hulkster I bet you wish I stood away lol

[Hulkster]

no, you have only been back a day and you have already beened owned, pussyed out, and been made fun of by cameljockey - who echos the general concensus of the entire bodybuilding community when it comes to this debate:

ronnie would beat dorian fair and square.

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

no, you have only been back a day and you have already beened owned, pussyed out, and been made fun of by cameljockey - who echos the general concensus of the entire bodybuilding community when it comes to this debate:

ronnie would beat dorian fair and square.

 

lmfao Hulkster you're caught ( again ) I own you with ease 

[Hulkster]

LOL how am I caught?

do you have proof that the IFBB judges in fact receieve no monentary compensation above and beyond a room and some food?

no, you don't.

you are assuming, nothing more.

and besides, it still doesn't change that fact that in the opinion of the entire bb community, you few dorian nuthuggers have no idea what you are talking about!

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL how am I caught?

do you have proof that the IFBB judges in fact receieve no monentary compensation above and beyond a room and some food?

no, you don't.

you are assuming, nothing more.

and besides, it still doesn't change that fact that in the opinion of the entire bb community, you few dorian nuthuggers have no idea what you are talking about!

Hulkster You're caught contradicting yourself ( yet again ) you claim they get paid by Weider and when exposed as being clueless ( again ) you backpeddle and say they are ' unpaid ' and entertaining your monumental stupidity about me having NO proof they don't receive any pay , the burden lies on YOU to prove they do get paid directly from Weider , which we obviously know you can't prove because you're fucking stupid lol your so stupid you thought they get paid lol

And you're trying ( desperately I might add ) to save face with your argument ad populum that now becomes " The Entire BB community " not the majority the " ENTIRE " lol you're ignorant of competitive bodybuilding from top to bottom , your arguments are intellectually bankrupt and you're the master of the overstatement

I own you at will kid , come back when you have something to work with lol

[NeoSeminole]

This joke

what's wrong with that comparison? They are the same height. If anything, it favors Dorian.

[NarcissisticDeity]

what's wrong with that comparison? They are the same height. If anything, it favors Dorian.

lmao same height? Dorian's waist is smaller than Ronnie's the pictures are the ' same height ' means NOTHING in reality and Ronnie's calves bigger than Dorians? give me a break .

[NarcissisticDeity]

Hey I thought the whole BB community agreed?

http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=103

[NeoSeminole]

lmao same height? Dorian's waist is smaller than Ronnie's the pictures are the ' same height ' means NOTHING in reality and Ronnie's calves bigger than Dorians? give me a break.

their waists are the same width in the comparison, which makes perfect sense. Ronnie outweighed Dorian by 30 lbs. Furthermore, Dorian's calves are still bigger in that pic. There's no need to lie in order to make a point.

[NarcissisticDeity]

their waists are the same width in the comparison, which makes perfect sense. Ronnie outweighed Dorian by 30 lbs. Furthermore, Dorian's calves are still bigger in that pic. There's no need to lie in order to make a point.

That makes perfect sense to YOU and I'm not lying no way is Dorian's waist width even with the weight descrepency the same and NO I disagree his calves aren't bigger in that comparison that comparison is laughable .

[NeoSeminole]

That makes perfect sense to YOU and I'm not lying no way is Dorian's waist width even with the weight descrepency the same and NO I disagree his calves aren't bigger in that comparison that comparison is laughable.

oh shut the f*ck up with your pathetic whining. Ronnie outweighed Dorian by 30 lbs in that comparison. You cannot expect Ronnie's waist to still be narrower than Dorian's. If anything, they are the same width. Compare Ronnie's waist in 03 to his earlier years. You will see that his obliques grew as he became heavier. Moreover, you're lying about Ronnie's calves appearing larger in a weak attempt to discredit my comparison. I can measure them for you to prove Dorian's calves are bigger. If you need more convincing the scaling is close to accurate, I drew lines across the top of their heads, hips, knees and heels. These anatomical landmarks should line up if they are the same height. You will see that I actually made Dorian slightly taller.

[NarcissisticDeity]

oh shut the f*ck up with your pathetic whining. Ronnie outweighed Dorian by 30 lbs in that comparison. You cannot expect Ronnie's waist to still be narrower than Dorian's. If anything, they are the same width. Compare Ronnie's waist in 03 to his earlier years. You will see that his obliques grew as he became heavier. Moreover, you're lying about Ronnie's calves appearing larger in a weak attempt to discredit my comparison. I can measure them for you to prove Dorian's calves are bigger. If you need more convincing the scaling is close to accurate, I drew lines across the top of their heads, hips, knees and heels. These anatomical landmarks should line up if they are the same height. You will see that I actually made Dorian slightly taller.

yawn old explanation that still carries no weight go back to the drawing board kid 

[NeoSeminole]

yawn old explanation that still carries no weight go back to the drawing board kid

yawn, I accept your lame response as an admission of defeat.