please explain how Jay can win the whole prejudging while getting crushed from the back.
I am curious to know this too. 
go to ironage. you will fit in there nicely.
here on getbig, we have brains and realize that the judging is not always accurate.
we don't put the judges up on the same pedestal that you morons seem to.
oh, and I see you ignored every post I made concerning your insistance that the ad populum argument is a fallacy. as i showed, in this case it is certainly not. But of course, you are too stupid to understand even elementary philosophy and logic.
before you even make one more comment on this, LEARN SOME FUCKING PHILOSOPHY FIRST.
moron.
you really are the most unintelligent person on getbig because you don't seem to learn anything. you just go right on posting as if your points were not even refuted.. 
Again answe the question how does he dominate by losing the whole prejudging thats an oxymoron and shows your ignorance of how competitive bodybuilding is judged , period end of sentence just like you're just as qualified as a professional to judge a contest

The judging isn't always accurate ( only in cases of Dorian and not Ronnie ) ignorance and hypocrisy exposes ( again )
and again you haven't proven anything about the argument ad populum its a faulty position to take right off the bat , your argument has no factual basis it starts by assuming the masses are correct , we all think Ronnie is better so therefore he's better lol its laughable brand X is the number one selling brand so you should buy brand X
And learn some philosophy ? I have books by Frederick Nietzsche , Immanuel Kant , Arthur Schopenhauer , David Hume , Soren Kierkegaard , Voltaire , I'm read up on Thomas Paine , Daniel Dennett , Colin Mcginn , don't think for a moment I'm not well versed in philosophy kid , like the topic of bodybuilding I'm well read .
you need to learn how to apply an argument and the criteria lol and again how is my point that Ronnie dominated any part of the 2001 Mr Olympia refuted when you consider he lost the whole prejudging , and how is my point that Dorian clearly beat Flex in 1993 refuted? please explain yourself lol if you can.