Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[suckmymuscle]

a long winded post which is easily refuted by a single pic. If you can grasp why Dorian is shorter than everyone in this pic, then you will understand why Dorian's forearms appear shorter in my comparison.

  What a retarded excuse... This does not apply at all to the comparison between Dorian and Ronnie because their arms are aligned and at equal distance from the camera. The only excuse you can use is the one of Dorian's forearms beng pronated forward, thus causing a discrepancy in depth. But like I said it's not enough. Nice try, though.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

where was the disclaimer when you made these pieces of shit?



suddenly Dorian is taller than Ronnie.

Ah big difference genius , I'm NOT posting my anymore  you have the balls to post those over and over lmfao and I admitted I was new to making them so nice try

[NarcissisticDeity]

  Hmmm....I have justg measured both their forearms on my computer screen using a ruler, and Ronnie's forearms - elbow to wrists - is roughly 1" longer than Dorian's, which would translate into it being several inches longer in real life. Sorry, SemenHole, but your comparison sucks. Try again with a little bit more honesty the next time.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Great post !

[suckmymuscle]

Great post !

  It is amazing how much this guy sucks. Read our recent exchanges but put a hose in your nose because his posts stink. You'll see that he brings up all kinds of bullshit excuses to distract from the basic point that you can measure their forearms lengh with a ruler, compare and then see that Ronnie's forearms are a massive 1" longer than Dorian's, which would mean that Ronnie's forearms would be a feet longer in real life . His excuse of Dorian's forearms being bent forward is not as retarded as the others one, but not enough to explain the huge discrepancy.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

  And the really amazing thing is that this fucking moron thinks that he's intelligent and smarter than me. I guess that humbleness and intelligence are inversely proportional.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

  It is amazing how much this guy sucks. Read our recent exchanges but put a hose in your nose because his posts stink. You'll see that he brings up all kinds of bullshit excuses to distract from the basic point that you can measure their forearms lengh with a ruler, compare and then see that Ronnie's forearms are a massive 1" longer than Dorian's, which would mean that Ronnie's forearms would be a feet longer in real life . His excuse of Dorian's forearms being bent forward is not as retarded as the others one, but not enough to explain the huge discrepancy.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Look its glaringly obvious the comparison is fucked period . any unbiased person can see Ronnie's arms are a LONG longer than Yates and couple that with the other flaws , Yates' waist being smaller than Ronnies , Ronnie's calves being equal or greater lol this idiot actually tried to justified that bullshit by measuring them and leaving out part of Ronnie's calves ( solues ) he gave a lame ass explanation why too ( he's fond of them ) the picture of Ronnie is closer to the camera and Dorian further away , just because the heights seem right means nothing , its just a terrible comparison that he admits isn't perfect yet keeps on posting it and they wonder why Ronnie is ahead in the polls lol

A few points to ponder

I.F.B.B. judge Roger Schwab

Man-mountain Dorian Yates was certainly the top gun in the 1993 Mr Olympia shootout. He was much bigger , better and harder than ever , and while his is never the prettiest physique on stage , he's assuredly the most God-awful muscular superman this sport has yet seen. Though Yates was lighter than Lou Ferrigno or Paul Dillett , he appeared to be the biggest man on stage-by far- and the hardest , dominating from beginning to end and every step in between.


a 318 pound Lou Ferrigno and a 275 pound Paul Dillett couldn't make a 257 pound Dorian look small but a 287 pound Ronnie can 

This is a quote from Shawn Ray's critique of the 2004 Mr Olympia

From where I sat, in certain poses you would never know Dexter was giving up 70lbs to Ronnie

In certain poses a 296 pound Ronnie Coleman didn't make Dexter look small , but a 287 pound one would make Dorian look small  give me a fucking break

in Neo's fantasy world 2003 Ronnie is like Paul Bunyan , Ronnie was 7'0" tall and weighed 1300 pounds and when he did the rear latspread people thought it was a eclipse lol what a fucking child

[Hulkster]

although I am not really a fan of his 2003 physique compared to his 99 physique, even a retard like you ND must admit that no one has ever matched ronnie 2003's rear lat spread.

[Hulkster]

I don't know why everyone is so concerned about whether or not ronnie's 2003 rear double bi matches up to dorian['s.

fact is, ronnie's rear double bi in his early olympia days destroys any back double bi that dorian has ever brought to the table.

yes, you may not care that most knowledable people agree.

but then again, if you don't care what knowledgable people agree on, then you are being naive.

its like saying that evolution must not be occuring and the argument is a fallacy because millions of experts agree and have mountains of evidence that show that it is is simply an 'ad populum' argument.  According to ND, the argument for evolution is therefore 'weak'..

of course it is a non fallicious case of the ad populum argument.

ND can't figure this out because he knows shit about philosophy and techniques of arguments...

He has no idea what is a fallacy and what isn't..

[IceCold]

although I am not really a fan of his 2003 physique compared to his 99 physique, even a retard like you ND must admit that no one has ever matched ronnie 2003's rear lat spread.

disagree.

ronnie's previous lat spread from 98 was better.

even 99, but 98 is when he had the conditioning.

still with the low lats, xmas tree, and CALVES, yates is untouched in the rear lat spread.

also, dorian's torso is longer making his back longer, wider, and bigger.

[NarcissisticDeity]

although I am not really a fan of his 2003 physique compared to his 99 physique, even a retard like you ND must admit that no one has ever matched ronnie 2003's rear lat spread.

For what? width? maybe not but for balance & proportion , density and condition sure they have .

[IceCold]

the back double shot is very close, but i give the edge to dorian.

mainly due to the xmas tree - notice ronnie's is not at the same level of dorian's in this shot (loose skin, lmao).

the only thing ron has on dorian is arms, but in this shot, i think calves have more of an impact.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I don't know why everyone is so concerned about whether or not ronnie's 2003 rear double bi matches up to dorian['s.

fact is, ronnie's rear double bi in his early olympia days destroys any back double bi that dorian has ever brought to the table.

yes, you may not care that most knowledable people agree.

but then again, if you don't care what knowledgable people agree on, then you are being naive.

its like saying that evolution must not be occuring and the argument is a fallacy because millions of experts agree and have mountains of evidence that show that it is is simply an 'ad populum' argument.  According to ND, the argument for evolution is therefore 'weak'..

of course it is a non fallicious case of the ad populum argument.

ND can't figure this out because he knows shit about philosophy and techniques of arguments...

He has no idea what is a fallacy and what isn't..

lmfao argument ad populum

95% or was it 98% ? of people agree Ronnie is better than Dorian , so therefore he is lol classic ad populum argument

and I beg to differ  this back double bicep has everything Ronnie's does plus calves !! better density , better balance & proportion and compared to 99 better conditioning , learn the criteria

[NarcissisticDeity]

the back double shot is very close, but i give the edge to dorian.

mainly due to the xmas tree - notice ronnie's is not at the same level of dorian's in this shot (loose skin, lmao).

the only thing ron has on dorian is arms, but in this shot, i think calves have more of an impact.

lmfao Great post !

[NarcissisticDeity]

mods, please kick this over to the bitch thread.

hulkster, attempting to recruit posters in your pathetic quest to usurp yates fans shows a level of immaturity and bitchiness that is lame as fuck, even for you.

keep your stupid shit on the stupid thread.

thankyou.

Hulkster another person can see through your garbage lol now this was truly a Great post !

[Hulkster]

ND because you are stupid you are missing the whole point.

the argument that ronnie is better does not rely simply on numbers.

it relies on cold hard comparisons in which knowledgable people apply criteria and agree.

this is NOT A FALLICIOUS CASE OF THE AD POPULUM ARGUMENT.

READ THAT AGAIN.and again.

you don't understand the philosophy that you are trying to spout.

its going right over your head.

and I don't have time to give you philosophy lessons. I have to dust off my textbooks for that.

and you would be too stupid to ever pass my class anyway..

[IceCold]

ND because you are stupid you are missing the whole point.

the argument that ronnie is better does not rely simply on numbers.

it relies on cold hard comparisons in which knowledgable people apply criteria and agree.

this is NOT A FALLICIOUS CASE OF THE AD POPULUM ARGUMENT.

READ THAT AGAIN.and again.

you don't understand the philosophy that you are trying to spout.

its going right over your head.

and I don't have time to give you philosophy lessons. I have to dust off my textbooks for that.

and you would be too stupid to ever pass my class anyway..

MELTDOWN

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND because you are stupid you are missing the whole point.

the argument that ronnie is better does not rely simply on numbers.

it relies on cold hard comparisons in which knowledgable people apply criteria and agree.knowledgable

this is NOT A FALLICIOUS CASE OF THE AD POPULUM ARGUMENT.

READ THAT AGAIN.and again.

you don't understand the philosophy that you are trying to spout.

its going right over your head.

and I don't have time to give you philosophy lessons. I have to dust off my textbooks for that.

and you would be too stupid to ever pass my class anyway..

Yawn you include yourself in this ' knowledgeable ' group ( and for future reference whenever you're questioning someone intellect you may want to spell knowledgeable correctly  ) and pumpster and I've proven both of you are clueless and very much ignorant of the inner workings of professional competitive bodybuilding , case in point you think ( now according to you , you lump yourself in with the ' knowledgeable ' people ) that Dorian should have lost the 1993 Mr Olympia to Flex Wheeler ( strike one )

Another point to ponder , you in all your wisdom and knowledge have said that Ronnie dominated from the back in the 2001 Mr Olympia compared to Jay Cutler , despite the fact ( please learn this word ) that he lost not only the symmetry round but the muscularity round as well !! Ronnie according to the people who matter most absolutely DID NOT dominate from the back as you and all your ; knowledge ' claim he almost lost the whole contest in one of the closest Mr Olympias ever ! ( strike two )

And to sum up your knowledge ( or lack there of ) you claimed that Dorian Yates was the most overrated bodybuilding of all time !! lmfao your knowledge claimed this lol ( strike three , you're out ! ) these are but a handful of examples of your ' knowledge ' you're not a knowledgeable person bases on just these examples and there are others that I can quote but I'll spare you for now

So even if we entertain ( a gift from me to you  ) that your argument isn't ad numerum its still faulty based on your knowledge and your PRESUMPTION to know the level everyone else knowledge who agrees with you , so either way ....you're fucked
 
so consider yourself corrected , keep trying though I enoy a good laugh .

[pumpster]

Yawn you include yourself in this ' knowledgeable ' group ( and for future reference whenever you're questioning someone intellect you may want to spell knowledgeable correctly  ) and pumpster and I've proven both of you are clueless and very much ignorant of the inner workings of professional competitive bodybuilding , case in point you think ( now according to you , you lump yourself in with the ' knowledgeable ' people ) that Dorian should have lost the 1993 Mr Olympia to Flex Wheeler ( strike one )

Another point to ponder , you in all your wisdom and knowledge have said that Ronnie dominated from the back in the 2001 Mr Olympia compared to Jay Cutler , despite the fact ( please learn this word ) that he lost not only the symmetry round but the muscularity round as well !! Ronnie according to the people who matter most absolutely DID NOT dominate from the back as you and all your ; knowledge ' claim he almost lost the whole contest in one of the closest Mr Olympias ever ! ( strike two )

And to sum up your knowledge ( or lack there of ) you claimed that Dorian Yates was the most overrated bodybuilding of all time !! lmfao your knowledge claimed this lol ( strike three , you're out ! ) these are but a handful of examples of your ' knowledge ' you're not a knowledgeable person bases on just these examples and there are others that I can quote but I'll spare you for now

So even if we entertain ( a gift from me to you  ) that your argument isn't ad numerum its still faulty based on your knowledge and your PRESUMPTION to know the level everyone else knowledge who agrees with you , so either way ....you're fucked
 
so consider yourself corrected , keep trying though I enoy a good laugh .

Truly boring, i mean who is going to bother wading thru this much meandering from from someone of immense ego and the need to drone on and on when in the end it's nothing more than endless Iron Age tripe.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Truly boring, i mean who is going to bother wading thru more self-indulgent crap from someone with a huge ego when in the end the origin's an Iron Age shill.

Boring however it may be it is correct  and you're a member of Ironage so don't hate , hell thats where I got the Bow Flex pics , the best is when you raised a few eye brows on Ironage when you tried to justify use of a bow flex lol loser go back to playing mod , before you get crushed under the weight of your own stupidity .

[pumpster]

Boring however it may be it is correct  and you're a member of Ironage so don't hate , hell thats where I got the Bow Flex pics , the best is when you raised a few eye brows on Ironage when you tried to justify use of a bow flex lol loser go back to playing mod , before you get crushed under the weight of your own stupidity .

Then the little infantile bitch as gh15 correctly called him resorts to name calling hahahahah what a loser melting down.

[suckmymuscle]

  Observe that SemenHole fucked off and shut up after I owned him for the gazillionth time. I own this board!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

Then the little infantile bitch as gh15 correctly called him resorts to name calling hahahahah what a loser.

lmfao corrected I owned him ( like you ) many times and he never corrected anything he spouting some anecdotal story that could never be verified , and if I wouldn't doubt for a moment you'd be fond of his stupidity , you people tend to flock together , hell look no further than the Coleman fans lol 


go play mod and stroke your powerods 

[suckmymuscle]

lmfao corrected I owned him ( like you ) many times and he never corrected anything he spouting some anecdotal story that could never be verified , and if I wouldn't doubt for a moment you'd be fond of his stupidity , you people tend to flock together , hell look no further than the Coleman fans lol 


go play mod and stroke your powerods 

  GH15 said that Rocky Marciano was on steroids back in the 1920s!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

  GH15 said that Rocky Marciano was on steroids back in the 1920s!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Always got a story that one and the best part is the fucking morons who buy into it , well you know what P T Barnum said ....

[suckmymuscle]

  I am still laughing my ass off that SemenHole believes that a comparison where Ronnie's forearms are 1" longer than Dorian's is accurate. What a fucking retard!!!!!!!!!

SUCKMYMUSCLE