Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Pete Dimano]

Seems I've found myself in The Shit Thread.

[NeoSeminole]

Sir NeoSeminole, I am simply pointing out your hypocrisy, sport. You made the case for Ronnie 2001 ASC having better conditioning than Dorian 1995, and then I pointed out to you that McGough believes otherwise. So what do you do? You praise McGough's opinion about Ronnie being the best ever, but then say that he's wrong about Dorian 1995 having better conditioning than Ronnie 2001 ASC. I personally don't care about McGough's opinion. I', simply pointing out your hypocrisy.

I'll keep reposting this over and over until you address the part where I called you a liar.

this is the type of shit I'm talking about when I say I don't want to bother responding. Suckmyasshole, you are a liar. I'm calling you out right now to show me where I said Peter McGough is wrong about nobody being as hard and dry as Dorian.

[JasonH]

That'll never appear in the Guiness World Records book - the outside world goes out of their way to avoid bodybuilding - they'll put anything before it.

[suckmymuscle]

you are correct about one thing. I did say 01 ASC Ronnie had better conditioning than Dorian. Conditioning refers to body fat and water levels. I never said Ronnie was harder or dryer, which is what Suckmyasshole claimed. Dorian may have looked 'harder' in person. I never saw him compete. So it's hard for me to compare a tactile perception based on pics. However, I can say with 100% certainty that 01 ASC Ronnie had better overall conditioning.

  And SemenHole has the guts to call me a liar! Dorian was at 3% bodyfat in 1995, and he was dehydrated to the maximum. You are right that we cannot know who had less water, but judging from experience, it's safe to say that Dorian had as little if not less than Ronnie. This is not debatable. Remember that Dorian's 1993 and 1995 Olympia forms were consideredf epitomes of dryness, while Ronnie's 2001 ASC shape was the best for him, but was not considered the dryest ever. The evidence? McGough saying in a 2005 editoral that "no man has eve been as hard and dry as the man who won six Sandows". So I would say that Dorian 1995 and Ronnie 2001 ASC had roughy the same amount of subcutaneous fat, and Dorian was as dry or drier than Ronnie. You lose. Again.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

I'll keep reposting this over and over until you address the part where I called you a liar.

this is the type of shit I'm talking about when I say I don't want to bother responding. Suckmyasshole, you are a liar. I'm calling you out right now to show me where I said Peter McGough is wrong about nobody being as hard and dry as Dorian.

You claimed Ronnie had better conditioning and you're playing with words , conditioning = dryness and hardness , Dorian Yates

[suckmymuscle]

I'll keep reposting this over and over until you address the part where I called you a liar.

this is the type of shit I'm talking about when I say I don't want to bother responding. Suckmyasshole, you are a liar. I'm calling you out right now to show me where I said Peter McGough is wrong about nobody being as hard and dry as Dorian.

  So if you agree with McGough that Dorian had the best conditioning ever, then why do you keep saying that Ronnie 2001 ASC had better conditioning? How can you value McGough when he says somehting, but then ignore his opinion when you disagree with it?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Hedgehog]

For how long will this shit continue? SUCKY and ND have already convinced me that Dorian is better, but I wonder if there are many people who switched sides in the one and a half years since the thread has been going on.

I still haven't decided between Dozzer and Coleman, TBH.

[Hedgehog]

wrong, Ronnie at the 01 ASC had great detail in his midsection. The only problem I see is the gap between his abdominals.

Show me a pic from the ASC where he had great detail.

Not the Bernal post-show pics, mind you.

Bernal is an awesome photographer, and his ASC pics of Ronnie are classics.

[NeoSeminole]

And NeoSeminole has the guts to call me a liar! Dorian was at 3% bodyfat in 1995, and he was dehydrated to the maximum.

show me a pic or video where it says Dorian was 3% body fat in 95. I'm calling bullshit on your claim. That's like me saying Ronnie was 2.5% body fat. Anyone can make up a number.

You are right that we cannot know who had less water, but judging from experience, it's safe to say that Dorian had as little if not less than Ronnie. This is not debatable. Remember that Dorian's 1993 and 1995 Olympia forms were consideredf epitomes of dryness, while Ronnie's 2001 ASC shape was the best for him, but was not considered the dryest ever. The evidence? McGough saying in a 2005 editoral that "no man has eve been as hard and dry as the man who won six Sandows".

I never disagreed that Dorian's prime is considered the epitome of dryness. This is why I called you a liar b/c you said I did. 

So I would say that Dorian 1995 and Ronnie 2001 ASC had roughy the same amount of subcutaneous fat, and Dorian was as dry or drier than Ronnie. You lose. Again.

I would say that 01 ASC Ronnie had less body fat and was as dry as 95 Dorian. You lose. Again.

see how dumb it sounds when you just make a comment like that without backing it up? I actually used pics to demonstrate why I believe Ronnie had better overall conditioning.

[NeoSeminole]

Show me a pic from the ASC where he had great detail.

Not the Bernal post-show pics, mind you.

Bernal is an awesome photographer, and his ASC pics of Ronnie are classics.

I could have sworn I posted an ab-thigh-shot from the contest where Ronnie has striations in his obliques and clear separation between his abdominals.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I could have sworn I posted an ab-thigh-shot from the contest where Ronnie has striations in his obliques and clear separation between his abdominals.

 

[NeoSeminole]

what is posting a blurry shot of Ronnie supposed to prove? Oh I'm sorry, was that an attempt to look clever?

[haider]

I still haven't decided between Dozzer and Coleman, TBH.

Ronnie > Dorian.

See the light my friend. All you got to do is open your eyes 

[NeoSeminole]

hey gais, look at me. I'm so smart. LOLOLOL

[NarcissisticDeity]

what is posting a blurry shot of Ronnie supposed to prove? Oh I'm sorry, was that an attempt to look clever?

According to Hulkster pictures don't lie 

[Hulkster]

Lets See Dorian himself said He has better balance & proportion and so did Lee Priest I guess they're wrong too huh? 

yes, if the reality (ie visual proof) shows that they are.

duh.

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

yes, if the reality (ie visual proof) shows that they are.

duh.

 

Hulkster you don't have the vaguest idea of what great proportion and balance is , please stop acting like you know more than judges , competitors and Yates himself , please I mean I don't mind debating you but this is lunacy.

[Hulkster]

Hulkster you don't have the vaguest idea of what great proportion and balance is , please stop acting like you know more than judges , competitors and Yates himself , please I mean I don't mind debating you but this is lunacy.

lol hey retard: in case you didn't notice, YOU are in the MINORITY in this debate.

its YOU who doesn't know what he is doing.

the rest of the bb community does.

Ronnie>>Dorian.

[Hulkster]

Ronnie > Dorian.

See the light my friend. All you got to do is open your eyes 

agreed.

ND is legally blind.

[Hedgehog]

I could have sworn I posted an ab-thigh-shot from the contest where Ronnie has striations in his obliques and clear separation between his abdominals.

Sorry, I just checked the last page.

[Hulkster]

Deity: 99 people out 100 agree with Hulkster. Your the black sheep. The freak. If this were 100 years ago, we would accuse you of being a witch, and drown you.

hahahha GREAT POST!!

[NarcissisticDeity]

lol hey retard: in case you didn't notice, YOU are in the MINORITY in this debate.

its YOU who doesn't know what he is doing.

the rest of the bb community does.

Ronnie>>Dorian.

Argument ad populum , just because I'm in the minority doesn't mean I'm wrong  and I suppose me , Dorian Yates and Lee Priest are all in the minority when its concering balance & proportion and hey wait where are the quotes that back up your claim Ronnie has better balance & proportion when directly compared to Dorian? .................yeah I thought so .

[NarcissisticDeity]

hahahha GREAT POST!!

See my response to that  99 out of 100 people said Galileo was wrong too , I guess the majority was right huh? lol owned

[Hulkster]

See my response to that  99 out of 100 people said Galileo was wrong too , I guess the majority was right huh? lol owned

they didn't have the sort of proof that we have.

how many times have I explained this too you and you STILL don't get it?

on that note, how many times did you repeat grade 10? LOL

I can just see ND's math teacher:

"2 +2 = 4"

ND: No, Miss Ballbreaker, its 5.

No, its 4.

ND: No its 5. Your argument that it is 4 is weak and ad populum!

ND, you are an idiot.

ND: Yawn!

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

they didn't have the sort of proof that we have.

how many times have I explained this too you and you STILL don't get it?

on that note, how many times did you repeat grade 10? LOL

I can just see ND's math teacher:

"2 +2 = 4"

ND: No, Miss Ballbreaker, its 5.

No, its 4.

ND: No its 5. Your argument that it is 4 is weak and ad populum!

ND, you are an idiot.

ND: Yawn!

 

Hulkster your opinion is NOT proof , please learn this .