Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NeoSeminole]

More size? who is blind? Dorian 260 pounds Ronnie 240-247 MAX who is blind? definition is conditioning ( see Yates ) mass? fluffing the same thing to make it seem Ronnie has more advantages in the same thing? twice he's still smaller than Yates , quality is an empty claim , etc , etc , etc ( see fluff ) try the criteria

a 275 lbs Paul Dillet and 315 lbs Lou Ferrigno couldn't make a blocky, flat Dorian look small (according to you) but a 10 lbs heavier Dorian would make a tiny waisted, more aesthetic, fuller 01 ASC Ronnie look small?

[Iceman1981]

meltdown 

Actually it's No meltdown. It's the truth that you can't handle. LOL

But I did like yates 93

[Hulkster]

what is really funny is that even a 'smaller' 247 pound Ronnie still had not only arms and quads that were of a much higher quality, but they were larger as well.

dorian's extra scale weight comes from his massive midsection and bone structure (ie a powerlifter type build) NOT from extra muscle mass..

[Hulkster]

Actually it's No meltdown. It's the truth that you can't handle. LOL

But I did like yates 93

exactly.

when ever someone who does not post on this thread regularly rants on how dumb ND is, all he can do is cry 'meltdown' when in fact it is the literal truth..

[NarcissisticDeity]

it isn't close.

it has never BEEN close.

93 dorian had a better lower back, better abs, better calves.

he had a better front lat spread and ab shot.

but the rest of the mandatories are Ronnie's easily.

that has been shown time and time again:

No it most certainly NOT have been shown time and time again , you've posted the same pictures time and time again and added the same empty claims time & time again not much more

stop trying to accumulate parts , does the sum of Ronnie's ( supposedly ) better parts make the greater whole? NO and why? see muscle balance & muscle proportion , does Ronnie have better conditioning NO it may be equal ( maybe ) in 2001 but to say its better is simply not honest , how about muscular bulk? NO Dorian is 260 pounds and Ronnie is 244-247 pounds max , I mean seriously and recall that all rounds are physique rounds

Shawn Ray

Ronnie�s side chest leaves a lot to be desired when compared to people who can actually hit it right

His side triceps shot is not one of the best in the business and he got exposed because of it.

Two of Ronnie's worse poses and two of Dorian's best lol come to your senses when saying Ronnie even compares favorably in these shots never mind beats him !

Ronnie Coleman

DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen.


Peter McGough on Dorian Yates 1995 Mr Olympia

Side triceps is a masterpiece

[NarcissisticDeity]

a 275 lbs Paul Dillet and 315 lbs Lou Ferrigno couldn't make a blocky, flat Dorian look small (according to you) but a 10 lbs heavier Dorian would make a tiny waisted, more aesthetic, fuller 01 ASC Ronnie look small?

You're damn right ! oh and it was according to a judge not me . 

[NarcissisticDeity]

what is really funny is that even a 'smaller' 247 pound Ronnie still had not only arms and quads that were of a much higher quality, but they were larger as well.

dorian's extra scale weight comes from his massive midsection and bone structure (ie a powerlifter type build) NOT from extra muscle mass..

Keep adding up parts kid thats not how contests are won , Neo tried this bullshit and now you? Ronnie has more muscle mass despite being 13-16 pounds lighter? I mean seriously .

[Hulkster]

LOL

 

like I said, ND is legally blind.

Nasser, Louie AND Paul ALL made dorian look small.

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL

 

like I said, ND is legally blind.

Nasser, Louie AND Paul ALL made dorian look small.

Ironically the picture you posted of Lou is exactly the contest the judge was commenting on ( see owned ) and nice strawman a Yates bending over and a Nasser standing up wow that proves a lot  nice try though

once again Hulkster knows more than an eyewitness and a judge lol

[NeoSeminole]

You're damn right ! oh and it was according to a judge not me.

sorry kiddo, but you're wrong.

Flex Magazine, August 2005 - Peter McGough

"Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 247 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia

"With his incredible thickness and muscle shape, Coleman doesn't need to weigh over 260 pounds on stage to look big. When he won the Arnold Classic last year, Ronnie only weighed 247 pounds but he looked like he weighed 20 pounds heavier."

Jim Stoppani - Flex, July 2005

"Has anyone ever displayed a more muscular, more shredded, higher-quality physique than a 247-pound Ronnie Coleman at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic?"

Dexter Jackson – Getbig Interview 2004

“I am not the gossip type. I let them do all the talking, and I let my physique back my talking up. I know Craig Titus was saying something like he knows that Lee Priest is 200 pounds, I’m 220 pounds, and he is 250 pounds, and all this shit, but what Craig does not realize is that his 250 pounds is not like Ronnie Coleman’s 250 pounds. See what I am saying? I think I have proven to everyone that size doesn't matter. You don't look at Craig and say 'whoa, that’s a big dude’. You might say that about Ronnie or Jay at 250, but not Craig.”

[Hulkster]

Keep adding up parts kid thats not how contests are won , Neo tried this bullshit and now you? Ronnie has more muscle mass despite being 13-16 pounds lighter? I mean seriously .

depending on the source, Ronnie was either 247 (according to Flex) or an even 250 (According to Ironman) at the AC.

dorian was 257 at the O.

which is 7-10 pounds at most.

So how the fuck do you get 13-16 pounds heavier?

 

ND, you really would have benefited from a post secondary education.

Yes, we know you don't need math very much to make change at McD's, but later in life you might be assistant shift manager, and you might need more skills..

hahahahahahahaha

[Hulkster]

Ironically the picture you posted of Lou is exactly the contest the judge was commenting on ( see owned ) and nice strawman a Yates bending over and a Nasser standing up wow that proves a lot  nice try though

once again Hulkster knows more than an eyewitness and a judge lol

what the fuck?

it has nothing to do with bending over, look at the difference in ARM SIZE and LEG SIZE..

 

[NeoSeminole]

ND is such a hypocrite. He believes a 10 lbs heavier Dorian would make Ronnie look small yet thinks a 30 lbs heavier Ronnie wouldn't have a noticeable size advantage.

[pillowtalk]

Is this whole thread a fucking joke ??.

Look what i found on page 1 / post 1 ??.

Yet here we are 1392 pages later !!??!!??!!??...........

What the fuck are you guys on................

I'll be the bigger man and say enough is enough , the board is sick of our ' debates ' obviously neither of us are going to convince each other of our opinions , and we've basically said everything we could , so I say lets end this debate out of respect for others , I say you and I stop directly comparing Ronnie & Dorian and leave well enough alone and let the board have a rest lol the ball is now in your court . 

SO - LAMBO OR FERRARI ?..............

PT -- SAIDA.

[NarcissisticDeity]

sorry kiddo, but you're wrong.

Flex Magazine, August 2005 - Peter McGough

"Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 247 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia

"With his incredible thickness and muscle shape, Coleman doesn't need to weigh over 260 pounds on stage to look big. When he won the Arnold Classic last year, Ronnie only weighed 247 pounds but he looked like he weighed 20 pounds heavier."

Jim Stoppani - Flex, July 2005

"Has anyone ever displayed a more muscular, more shredded, higher-quality physique than a 247-pound Ronnie Coleman at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic?"

Dexter Jackson – Getbig Interview 2004

“I am not the gossip type. I let them do all the talking, and I let my physique back my talking up. I know Craig Titus was saying something like he knows that Lee Priest is 200 pounds, I’m 220 pounds, and he is 250 pounds, and all this shit, but what Craig does not realize is that his 250 pounds is not like Ronnie Coleman’s 250 pounds. See what I am saying? I think I have proven to everyone that size doesn't matter. You don't look at Craig and say 'whoa, that’s a big dude’. You might say that about Ronnie or Jay at 250, but not Craig.”

I'll sum up all these quotes with this sentence because it silences the others and how ironic you post this as proof and it applies to Dorian as well

(proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig)

Dorian in 1995 was ' supersharp ' which made him look ' superbig ' now couple that with actually being superbig , you get the point  oh wait you don't get many points.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND is such a hypocrite. He believes a 10 lbs heavier Dorian would make Ronnie look small yet thinks a 30 lbs heavier Ronnie wouldn't have a noticeable size advantage.

I never said he wouldn't have a noticeable size advantage ( LIAR ) I said he wouldn't dwarf Yates , sorry sport a 296 pound Ronnie couldn't dwarf ( in some poses ) a 225 pound Dexter a 287 ( soft compared to Yates ) pound Ronnie isn't going to dwarf a 260 pound Dorian , sorry kid.

[Hulkster]

this is 'superdull' in 95 LOL

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

this is 'superdull' in 95 LOL

 

Not according to Paul Dillett

Paul Dillet after the 1995 Mr Olympia " I've just seen Jesus Christ and he looks like Dorian Yates "

[NeoSeminole]

Dorian in 1995 was ' supersharp ' which made him look ' superbig ' now couple that with actually being superbig , you get the point

and here's where you look like an idiot.

Dorian was blocky with flat muscles. Ronnie has a narrower waist, smaller joints, and fuller muscles. The result is Ronnie looks bigger for his weight than Dorian.

[Hulkster]

like I said, its not difficult to see where the extra weight comes from.

its not in muscle mass thats for sure:

[NeoSeminole]

I never said he wouldn't have a noticeable size advantage ( LIAR ) I said he wouldn't dwarf Yates , sorry sport a 296 pound Ronnie couldn't dwarf ( in some poses ) a 225 pound Dexter a 287 ( soft compared to Yates ) pound Ronnie isn't going to dwarf a 260 pound Dorian , sorry kid.

show me a single pic taken from straight on where Dexter is holding his own in terms of size with Ronnie.

and yes, a 287 lbs Ronnie would dwarf a 30 lbs lighter Dorian.

[swilkins1984]

Let's get Shawn, Bob, and other pros who can decide who was the best.

[NarcissisticDeity]

and here's where you look like an idiot.

Dorian was blocky with flat muscles. Ronnie has a narrower waist, smaller joints, and fuller muscles. The result is Ronnie looks bigger for his weight than Dorian.

Oh boy flat ? don't mistake DENSITY for flat and recall density plus muscle mass ( add other criteria ) is highly prized , perhaps you missed that , the result is a 247 pound Ronnie getting crushed by a 260 pound Dorian .

[Hulkster]

Not according to Paul Dillett

Paul Dillet after the 1995 Mr Olympia " I've just seen Jesus Christ and he looks like Dorian Yates "

oh, I see, because Paul believe this it must be true even though he clearly has major issues that year (loose skin, torn bi, massive waist etc)?

argumentum ad populum..


 

if we showed paul what 99 Ronnie would do to 95 yates, Paul would not be singing the praises of dorian quite so much I assure you.

[NarcissisticDeity]

show me a single pic taken from straight on where Dexter is holding his own in terms of size with Ronnie.

and yes, a 287 lbs Ronnie would dwarf a 30 lbs lighter Dorian.

I don't have to show you anything and what part of certain poses did you miss? Shawn made the quote not me I'm just using it to correct your flawed thinking

and yes , a 287 lbs Ronnie would looks off-season compared to a super dry and superdense Yates , recall McGough's quote when you're supersharp you look super big , density & condition , balance & proportion , better posing , Yates has to many advantages for Ronnie ummmm any year .