Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Dballn247]

It doesn't matter how many people think Ronnie is vastly better , what matters is could Dorian beat Ronnie in a contest and while many believe Ronnie can almost all of them are like you and have NO clue why , most people are ignorant on how contests are judged , you and Neo and pumpster are all perfect examples of this

You just type empty words and say the most outlandish shit , I say " If Dorian faced Ronnie he would have the edge in conditioning " you say " NO Ronnie is drier and has better density in 1999 " I tell you thats nonsense and what do you do? just keep posting low-quality screencaps as  ' proof ' I then post after-the-fact mind you ! three eyewitnesses who specifically state Dorian has better conditioning than Ronnie and you have the balls to say they're all wrong lmfao and to add insult to injury Ronnie Coleman himself says his best Olympia conditioning was 1998 because he was ' spot-on '  ( which I've always maintained ) and you say NO its 1999 , you have a long history of ignorance and contradicting first-hand eyewitness accounts , see a pattern here? you don't know what the fuck you are talking about !

I say Dorian has better balance & proportion than Ronnie , you without explanation just say bullshit , then I post two quotes from two eyewitnesses who specifically mention that Dorian has better balance and what do you do? deny , deny , deny , when the actual Professionals in question ( along with me ) contradict your monumentally ignorant opinion , you simply dismiss it , they are wrong and Hulkster sitting at home on his PC is right after looking at inaccurate means , pictures . See a pattern here? you are wrong period , you're wrong about conditioning , you're wrong about density , you're wrong about balance & proportion , you're fucking wrong .

I say pictures aren't the best way to ascertain a persons condition , you say nonsense pictures are just as good as real life lol I post quotes from Bob Chick who said pictures are deceiving and judges base contest on what they see live & in the flesh , you dismiss him as well ( see a pattern here? ) Mr Gethin is a professional contest photographer he says pictures don't always give an accurate depiction , what do you do? dismiss him lol Peter McGough specifically states some bodybuilders look much better in person than pictures and Dorian is one of them , what do you do? dismiss him . the writers of MuscleMag say Dorian must be seen in person because pictures don't do him justice , Chris Cormier says the same thing , IFBB judge Roger Schwab says the same thing and what do you do? you deny , deny and deny see a fucking pattern here? whenever I correct you and your ignorance and back up my claims via , writers , professionals , judges you dismiss all of them , do you see a fucking pattern here? you're in denial your opinion is proven wrong period you're just to stupid to accept it , so if the majority of Coleman fans are just as ignorant as you then what do you have when you say most believe Ronnie is vastly better? 

Holy $hit that was a long read, but very true.

[Till_I-Collapse]

WOW somebody got owned big time here.

Yet I have no doubt he will comeback, post some Ronnie pics and continue the journey!

[Shockwave]

WOW somebody got owned big time here.

Yet I have no doubt he will comeback, post some Ronnie pics and continue the journey!

Haha.
Maybe he can't handle Ronnie not being the best of everything, eh Till I collapse?

[Hulkster]

I say pictures aren't the best way to ascertain a persons condition , you say nonsense pictures are just as good as real life

jesus christ this man cannot read english worth shit:

read what I said here you moron:

Pictures don't tell the whole story. They never have. But we have never seen peak ronnie standing next to peak dorian on the same stage and we never will. So we have to work with what we have available.

However, the problem is that the dorian side (eg. mainly ND) is saying that dorian 'looks way way better in person than he does in these pics" but that Ronnie coleman (or anyone else for that matter) somehow 'does not". As if Dorian has some special property (photoelectric effect? ) that no one else has. Which comes across as a pathetic attempt to discredit good comparisons.

1400+ pages and you still lack the basic understanding to read english and actually comprehend and understand what is being said..

honestly, you are one unintelligent person .

sorry.

[Hulkster]

It doesn't matter how many people think Ronnie is vastly better , what matters is could Dorian beat Ronnie in a contest and while many believe Ronnie can almost all of them are like you and have NO clue why , most people are ignorant on how contests are judged , you and Neo and pumpster are all perfect examples of this

blah blah blah everyone is stupid and I am not blah blah blah.

 

[pumpster]

It doesn't matter how many people think Ronnie is vastly better

Monster self-delusions; ND, ice and a couple of others muttering nothings to one another LOL

[Hulkster]

NO Ronnie is drier and has better density in 1999 " I tell you thats nonsense and what do you do? just keep posting low-quality screencaps as  ' proof ' I then post after-the-fact mind you

yes, you tell us and I easily prove you wrong:

oh, and I love how the screencaps are all of a sudden 'low quality' just because dorian gets his ass handed to him..

Can you not see a pattern here:

when all the comparisons show dorian getting killed, they are 'slanted and inaccurate'

when all the screencaps do the same, they are 'low quality'

when all the writers, pros and net fans say Ronnie would easily win  they are 'all stupid and ignorant'

what a fucking idiot..

so much for dorian having better (sic) conditioning..
by the way, nice wrinkles, Shadow:

[Hulkster]

see, ND you keeping 'telling us' that dorian had better conditioning.

but, as usual, you fail to show it one bit.

you can tell us what ever you want.

that does NOT mean you are correct.

you have to offer proof.

and you have none that can counter this ripped conditioning:

[Hulkster]

just look at the ripped detail in the side chest!

dorian never came close to achieving that level of conditioning.

not in 93, not ever.

[Mons Venus]

This thread feels like groundhog day. 

[Hulkster]

here is dorian in his most ripped shape ever (95) and he doesn't even come CLOSE to the level of conditioning and detail displayed by Ronnie 99:

countdown to the excuses!

[suckmymuscle]

  Hulkster, Ronnie never became a standard for conditioning. No "ifs", "ands" or "buts". His best conditioning ever was regarded as a standard for him, but not for the whole sport. Dorian's 1995 conditioning is considered, even today, the holy grail of bodybuilding conditioning. Dorian had the capacity to shed the last tiny little droplet of water, giving his muscles an appearance of granite or, like McGough once said, "fiberglass". No one ever had that. No one. Even Munzer, as striated as he was, still lacked that drier than plum look.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Hulkster]

  Hulkster, Ronnie never became a standard for conditioning. No "ifs", "ands" or "buts". His best conditioning ever was regarded as a standard for him, but not for the whole sport. Dorian's 1995 conditioning is considered, even today, the holy grail of bodybuilding conditioning. Dorian had the capacity to shed the last tiny little droplet of water, giving his muscles an appearance of granite or, like McGough once said, "fiberglass". No one ever had that. No one. Even Munzer, as striated as he was, still lacked that drier than plum look.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

and here he is in 95 in his most well conditioned ever...

abs and lower back? yes.

rest of him? no where NEAR the best ever in terms of conditioning:

[Hulkster]

Hulkster, Ronnie never became a standard for conditioning. No "ifs", "ands" or "buts".

you are correct.

what he became was the standard for the "greatest" or most "unbeatable" physique EVER.

just ask Peter McGough..

[Hulkster]

you are correct.

what he became was the standard for the "greatest" or most "unbeatable" physique EVER.

just ask Peter McGough..

you idiots love to go on about how we can't counter the eyewitness opinions...

well, try and counter that one from your friend Peter...

caught in your own argument..hahahaha

[suckmymuscle]

you are correct.

what he became was the standard for the "greatest" or most "unbeatable" physique EVER.

just ask Peter McGough..

  So you accept what McGough says one time, but then reject it when you disagree with it? I don't know if you're aware of this, but McGough especifically said that Dorian had the best conditioning ever. Do you accept this statement of his?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

Awesome post.

Thanks !

[NarcissisticDeity]

Holy $hit that was a long read, but very true.

Thank you !

[NarcissisticDeity]

WOW somebody got owned big time here.

Yet I have no doubt he will comeback, post some Ronnie pics and continue the journey!

he gets owned daily lol

[Hulkster]

LOL this coming from the laughing stock of getbig!

[Hulkster]

  So you accept what McGough says one time, but then reject it when you disagree with it? I don't know if you're aware of this, but McGough especifically said that Dorian had the best conditioning ever. Do you accept this statement of his?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

whether or not we agree has nothing to do with it.

the point is that the dorian side clings to quotes as their MAIN line of defense (because visually dorian comes up short by a wide margin) and this quote from a trusted source works DIRECTLY AGAINST THEM.

lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

see, ND you keeping 'telling us' that dorian had better conditioning.

but, as usual, you fail to show it one bit.

you can tell us what ever you want.

that does NOT mean you are correct.

you have to offer proof.

and you have none that can counter this ripped conditioning:

I keep telling you Dorian has better conditioning , Dorian Yates told you he has better conditioning , Lee Priest told you he has better conditioning , Peter McGough told you he has better conditioning , this right here is PROOF kid your screencaps and selective pic-posting can't trump this

This is eyewitness testimony , these people were live and in person , they've seen Ronnie & Dorian compete the whole of their careers , it doesn't get better than this Bodybuilding photographers told you pictures aren't accurate , Pro Bodybuilders told you pics aren't accurate , an IFBB judge told you pictures aren't accurate , bodybuilding writers told you you can't judge Yates on pictures , you are a defeated man .

Dorian Yates' conditioning is legendary get over it.

[The Next BIG Thing!]

i dream of the day when this thread gets locked.... 

I long for the day when your jaw gets locked, you tiresome piss-balloon.


TNBT

[NarcissisticDeity]

  Hulkster, Ronnie never became a standard for conditioning. No "ifs", "ands" or "buts". His best conditioning ever was regarded as a standard for him, but not for the whole sport. Dorian's 1995 conditioning is considered, even today, the holy grail of bodybuilding conditioning. Dorian had the capacity to shed the last tiny little droplet of water, giving his muscles an appearance of granite or, like McGough once said, "fiberglass". No one ever had that. No one. Even Munzer, as striated as he was, still lacked that drier than plum look.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Great post as usual !

[The Next BIG Thing!]

FFS... I don't spend a whole lotta time looking at/comparing pics, so my eyes might well be considered fresh compared to anyone else hereon.

Bearing that in mind, at 'first' glance, it is clearly seen that while Ronnie buries Dorian overall, Dorian had by far the thicker back and infinitely better calves.


TNBT