Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Hulkster]

His quads are just as cut and even drier 

bullshit:

[Shockwave]

Hulkster, I applaud you for stopping using those shitty screencaps for the most part.

[JOHN MATRIX]

no one has ever been close to ronald at his prime. end thread. sperm

[NarcissisticDeity]

I originally brought up McGough's quotes about Coleman in response to reverentential quotes by one Pete McGough by up ad naseum by ND.

The quotes you used are subjective and arguable the quotes I use aren't , big difference. learn this.

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

dorian's back is paper thin in that pose compared to Ronnie's:

 

Typical Hulkster move hyperfoucs on what YOU THINK is a flaw and ignore everything else you think you accomplished anything? only a fucking moron would claim Dorian Yates' back is paper thin compared to ANYONE   his back is the epitome of density learn what density is kid , his back is outstanding it lacks nothing , his whole back double biceps shot is killing Ronnie and why? because its COMPLETE its not lacking in anything at all , you guys you to say " Oh Dorian's back double biceps sucks because you can't see his biceps " and my response was " its the angle " and you people idiots dismissed it posted more strawmen etc, etc ....once again I am proven right lol how does it feel being wrong on 99% of the shit you type?

Dorian's back is thin lmfao Dorian's traps are thicker than Ronnie by far , his lats insert near his waist and his lowerlats and erector spinae are leaps & bounds thicker than Colemans . Dorian's whole back double biceps shot is flawless it is lacking in NOTHING he has world class calves , his hamstrings are thick & separated , his glutes are striated , his back lower/middle/upper is outstanding his delts are massive and clearly defined ,even his biceps are damn good , the separation in his arms is great his balance & proportion from head to toe is in a league of its own , Ronnie in one of his best poses can NOT compare , in terms of conditioning & density , bulk , balance & proportion , completeness


Back Double Biceps (see Figure 4)
Standing with his back to the judges, the competitor will
bend the arms and wrists as in the Front Double Biceps
pose, and will place one foot back, resting on the toes.
He will then contract the arm muscles as well as the
muscles of the shoulders, upper and lower back, thigh
and calf muscles.

The judge will first survey the arm muscles and then do
the head-to-foot survey, during which there are more
muscle groups to look at than in all of the other poses.
This includes the neck, deltoids, biceps, triceps, forearm,
trapezius, teres, infraspinatus, erector spinae, external
obliques, latissimus dorsi, gluteus, thigh biceps, and
calves. This pose, probably more than the others, will
help the judge to determine the quality of the
competitor’s muscle density, definition, and overall
balance.

Notice the last part this pose probably more than the others , will help the judge to determine the quality of the competitor's muscleDENSITY , DEFINITION and OVERALL BALANCE you think any lame ass comment on ' thinness ' can ( entertaining your bullshit ) compensate for his overwhelming strengths in the entire pose ? listen to me and pay attention once again Dorian Yates is the fucking criteria .

[Andre Nickatina]

This thread is retarded.

Everyone is kind of bitching like highschool girls "my man is better than yours."

There is no better bodybuilder. ITS JUST WHAT YOU PREFER. Now... fuck off please.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I see ND is still ignoring the EVER GROWING MOUNTAIN of VISUAL DOMINANCE of Ronnie over dorian...

did we expect anything different?

I see Hulkster still thinks eyewitness accounts are wrong and his ignorant opinion is right 

[NarcissisticDeity]

This thread is retarded.

Everyone is kind of bitching like highschool girls "my man is better than yours."

There is no better bodybuilder. ITS JUST WHAT YOU PREFER. Now... fuck off please.

Wrong there is a better bodybuilder there are criteria in which contests are judged by and it favor's Dorian Yates see above post on the back double biceps shot .

[Andre Nickatina]

RONNIE IS HUGE

DORIAN IS HUGE

OH WOW

[Andre Nickatina]

 

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[Hulkster]

I see Hulkster still thinks eyewitness accounts are wrong and his ignorant opinion is right 

what about all the eye witness accounts that say ronnie is the greatest ever at his best and has the greatest back?

like your friend Peter M.

we have all the visual evidence.

we have the eye witness accounts.

you have one or two opinions.

that is it. the mountain of visual evidence works against you.

whos argument is stronger?

think about it you unintelligent fool.

[Hulkster]

no one has ever been close to ronald at his prime. end thread. sperm

great post!

but ND will babble incoherently about ingorant opinions, eyewitness accounts (even though Peter M. sides with Ronnie) and 'slanted inaccurate comparisons" (that are actually very accurate, they just show Ronnie's clear domiance and ND can't stand it)

[pumpster]

The quotes you used are subjective and arguable the quotes I use aren't , big difference. learn this.

Deflection; what i've said stands; ND started and relied heavily on McGough's comments until it backfired in his face with McGough's comments that Coleman had the best back & physique.

Reality's a bitch.

[pumpster]

Typical Hulkster move hyperfoucs on what YOU THINK is a flaw and ignore everything else you think you accomplished anything? only a fucking moron would claim Dorian Yates' back is paper thin compared to ANYONE   his back is the epitome of density learn what density is kid , his back is outstanding it lacks nothing , his whole back double biceps shot is killing Ronnie and why? because its COMPLETE its not lacking in anything at all , you guys you to say " Oh Dorian's back double biceps sucks because you can't see his biceps " and my response was " its the angle " and you people idiots dismissed it posted more strawmen etc, etc ....once again I am proven right lol how does it feel being wrong on 99% of the shit you type?

GEEK MELTDWN

[slaveboy1980]

there can be no truce with the Shadow.

[suckmymuscle]

like your friend Peter M.

  Hulkster, we have already restablished that you cannot use McGough's quote, because you have already disagreed with him regarding who's the better conditioned. If you are going to consider him an authority that cannot be argued with, then you have to accept everything he says. If you accept hi quotes when they suit you and reject them when they don't,  then you are saying that McGough's statement means nothing.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

what about all the eye witness accounts that say ronnie is the greatest ever at his best and has the greatest back?

like your friend Peter M.

we have all the visual evidence.

we have the eye witness accounts.

you have one or two opinions.

that is it. the mountain of visual evidence works against you.

whos argument is stronger?

think about it you unintelligent fool.

How fucking stupid can one person be? on the topic of who the greatest ever is subjective its open for discussion , many people say Ronnie is the greatest does it mean its true? NO it's arguable , just like who has a better back its arguable its subjective you don't have all the visual evidence you have a bunch of pictures that YOU think Ronnie is better thats called an opinion

where are the eyewitness accounts saying specifically Ronnie has better conditioning than Dorian? where are the eyewitness accounts saying specifically Ronnie has better balance & proportion? Ah the ones you need are the ones YOU DON'T HAVE 

and who's argument is stronger? lmmfao are you fucking high? my argument fucking crushes yours my argument compared to yours is analogous to me being the CN Tower to your Monopoly house ! you're way to fucking biased to form an objective opinion , you claimed Dorian and I quote " is the most overrated bodybuilder of all time " who's argument is stronger? lol I mean its a proven fact you do NOT know what conditioning is , you do NOT know what density is , you do NOT know what balance is , you do NOT know what proportion is , you do NOT know the IFBB mens professional judging criteria , and even after I posted it you did NOT know how to apply it , you did NOT think Dorian should have won in 1993 and you have the fucking balls to ask who has a stronger argument?

My argument as NOT changed since the beginning its remained the same and why? because I know what I'm talking about , Dorian would beat Ronnie because he has better muscle balance & muscle proportion , he has better muscle density , he has better muscle conditioning , he has better posing & presentation , he's more complete from top to bottom , he simply put meets the criteria better than Ronnie my argument is stronger than yours by far

Your argument is weak , pathetically weak . it consists of dismissing all eye witnesses INCLUDING judges , having the balls to state you're just as qualified to judge a contest BASED ON PHOTOS as a professional is in person lol saying outlandish nonsense like Ronnie has better balance & proportion , like Ronnie 1999 has better density and conditioning despite the fact that two eyewitnesses say he doesn't ONE OF THEM is the man in question lol posting shots and claiming Dorian is getting owned lol like the side triceps and side chest two of which are among his worse poses ( confirmed by Shawn Ray ) and among Dorian's better poses ( confirmed by McGough & Coleman ) a strong argument doesn't rely on ad populum and straw man

You're argument has been addressed...corrected and dismissed . you can't stand with me because you're ignorant & biased and thats a bad combo for making a string argument.

keep trying though thats all you can do.

[PANDAEMONIUM]

ya

[NarcissisticDeity]

Deflection; what i've said stands; ND started and relied heavily on McGough's comments until it backfired in his face with McGough's comments that Coleman had the best back & physique.

Reality's a bitch.

I posted the comment from Mcgough about Ronnie's 2001 being unbeatable that didn't backfire , I didn't fear the quote and thats why I posted it  and the topic of who's the best is objective , who has better conditioning and balance are NOT thats not deflection thats fact kid , learn this.

[pumpster]

I posted the comment from Mcgough about Ronnie's 2001 being unbeatable that didn't backfire , I didn't fear the quote and thats why I posted it  and the topic of who's the best is objective , who has better conditioning and balance are NOT thats not deflection thats fact kid , learn this.

Furious obfuscation; the ND McGough plan backfired badly.

[NarcissisticDeity]

great post!

but ND will babble incoherently about ingorant opinions, eyewitness accounts (even though Peter M. sides with Ronnie) and 'slanted inaccurate comparisons" (that are actually very accurate, they just show Ronnie's clear domiance and ND can't stand it)

No wrong Peter M doesn't side with Ronnie in who has better density & conditioning wrong sport sorry !!  and again why are contests NOT judges via pictures? answer the question .

and what clear dominance ? you posted a back double biceps shot that Dorian clearly owns I posted the picture and the criteria , your ignorant opinion is corrected what are you left with? empty words. I have a professional bodybuilding photographer specifically stating pictures are deceiving , did you prove me wrong ? NO did you find a quote saying pictures are just as accurate as real life? NO and you can't either  Peter McGough said let it be said pictures can LIE . did you prove me wrong? NO did you find a quote saying pictures are just as accurate as being live & in person? NO you can't lol and it drive you insane

You need those quote not to be true , you need to believe pictures are perfect , suckmymuscle tried to talk sense into you by saying , you need to see the guys in the same light , same contrast , etc and what do you do when confronted with logic? DENY , deny and deny see a pattern? Peter McGough ( among many others ) say Dorian is NOT to be judged by pictures and video , Hulkster who needs this to be a lie , makes it one lol says everyone is wrong and he is right , get the fuck out of here with your stupidity , you played yourself you're to far gone for rational debate when you type this nonsense .

[NarcissisticDeity]

Furious obfuscation; the ND McGough plan backfired badly.

Like the other zealots you type empty words , seriously you have nothing to offer .