Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

perhaps this will clarify:

LMAO

 

I love how you entertain yourself with your own stupidity ! you fear Dorian with good reason my friend 

[Hulkster]

I love it when you post a series of mm shots showing so little detail in the arms legs etc. not to mention piss poor shape.

it shows just how little you know that you actually think those shots are 'good'..

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

I love it when you post a series of mm shots showing so little detail in the arms legs etc. not to mention piss poor shape.

it shows just how little you know that you actually think those shots are 'good'..

 

Little detail MY ASS he crushes Ronnie ANY YEAR in terms of balance & proportion , density & condition and 99 conditioned size and completeness you cherry pick what you like and forget all the bad things about Ronnie's shot , classic sign of a ignorant biased delusional fan-boy ! come hero lets go by the criteria and lets see what you come up with , ZERO and the irony you mention little detail in his legs LMFAO where is Ronnie's calves? he doesn't have any to have detail in , how about his bloated undetailed midsection and YES you can see it in this pose , stop cherry picking kid .

[Hulkster]

hahahaha

you actually believe that shit?

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

hahahaha

you actually believe that shit?

 

Oh no Ronnie really does have great calves , you're right  he really is drier and bigger than Dorian in 99  I love when you're proven wrong you get real quiet , follow the criteria STOP CHERRY PICKING

[Hulkster]

he is not bigger, but is drier.

dorian cannot match this dryness. not a chance:

[NarcissisticDeity]

he is not bigger, but is drier.

dorian cannot match this dryness. not a chance:

Sure he can't we all know how legendary Ronnie's Coleman's conditioning was lol

[Hulkster]

Sure he can't we all know how legendary Ronnie's Coleman's conditioning was lol

his conditioning, mass, shape and detail were legendary.

he raised the bar.

just look around on these boards.

you will find many in agreement.

including your friend Peter McGough..

hahhahaaha

[NarcissisticDeity]

his conditioning, mass, shape and detail were legendary.

he raised the bar.

just look around on these boards.

you will find many in agreement.

including your friend Peter McGough..

hahhahaaha

Oh really his conditioning was legendary ? to who? You and MattT? sure we all know how deluted Coleman fans are and he did raise the bar in 2003 other than that NO DICE and Dorian was just as heavy as Ronnie with BETTER CONDITIONING  and show me where Peter says Ronnie's conditioning is better than Dorians , oh and I'll be waiting lol Dorian TOTAL package was legendary 

[Hulkster]

no, dorian's back was legendary...until 98/99 Ronnie came along.

hahahaha

[NarcissisticDeity]

no, dorian's back was legendary...until 98/99 Ronnie came along.

hahahaha

Thats why people are still arguing its the best ever lol 1998? lol give me a break Ronnie 99 has nothing Yates didn't Dorian's back in fact is better because he has everything Ronnie has and then some , see a perfect x-mass tree , see shredded feathers lower lats , see traps that could remder him deaf , see width , thick and conditioning , he has it all my friend just like Ronnie's arms compared to Lee's , he's missing essentials to have the best 

oh-snap you just got knocked the fuck out !!

[Hulkster]

Ronnie 99 has nothing Yates didn't

other than those minor details of taper, arm shape, quad detail, ham detail, glute detail, better arms, better chest etc etc...

dorian had better calves, abs, and won two of the eight poses.

that is nothing.

[NarcissisticDeity]

other than those minor details of taper, arm shape, quad detail, ham detail, glute detail, better arms, better chest etc etc...

dorian had better calves, abs, and won two of the eight poses.

that is nothing.

Cherry picking again  stop trying to accumulate parts thats NOT how it works ( ignorant fuck ) density , proportion , balance , conditioning , posing , presentation , bulk , Dorian Yates get it? use the criteria and NOT your imagination , there are rules and they favor yates .

[Hulkster]

stop trying to accumulate parts thats NOT how it works ( ignorant fuck

who said anything about accumulating parts?

 

Ronnie has the whole package that blows the bag handler out of the water:

[NarcissisticDeity]

who said anything about accumulating parts?

 

Ronnie has the whole package that blows the bag handler out of the water:

whole package? lol where are his calves? thats part of the whole package , WRONG where is his balance & proportion? opppsssssss thats missing too , where is the bone dry & rock hard conditioning ? Oh damn there goes the whole package , lets add density too . wow so much for that ignorant opinion .

[The Next BIG Thing!]

He's right. Coleman has decidedly average calves. Not crap, not like Bill Grant, but poor in comparison to other BBers and the rest of his own physique.

And Yates was indeed very compact and dense.


TNBT

[Hulkster]

I'm not disagreeing with any of that.

but the facts remain: ronnie 99 stomps all over dorian 93.

in all but two poses (front lat and ab shot).

no amount of ND's babbling can change this.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I'm not disagreeing with any of that.

but the facts remain: ronnie 99 stomps all over dorian 93.

in all but two poses (front lat and ab shot).

no amount of ND's babbling can change this.

Hulkster you just contradicted yourself , you're not disagreeing with any of that yet in the same breathe claim he stomps all over Dorian lol he's NOT complete , he doesn't fit the criteria better than Dorian

The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.


Kid learn this Ronnie 99 is NOT complete , his conditioning is NOT as good as Dorians , his balace & proportion are NOT as good as Dorians , his density is NOT as good as Dorian , his bulk is the same but NOT as conditioned as Dorians , his posing in most of the mandatories is NOT as good as Dorian  , you just type empty words ' he stomps all over Dorian ' no he doesn't stop cherry picking the criteria and adhere to it and then lets see what you come up with .

[Hulkster]

all that look great on paper.

too bad it does not translate to having better mandatories.

Ronnie is more shapely, more detailed, just as massive.

ie the criteria that the judges look for.

[NarcissisticDeity]

all that look great on paper.

too bad it does not translate to having better mandatories.

Ronnie is more shapely, more detailed, just as massive.

ie the criteria that the judges look for.

NO stop typing i.e the criteria you constantly cherry pick the criteria there is no ' i.e. the criteria ' its density DORIAN its conditioning DORIAN its conditioned bulk DORIAN balance & proportion DORIAN and seeing all rounds are physique rounds Dorian meets this criteria better than Ronnie and its whats the judges look for

you post a straw man a front double biceps shot from the waist up that proves NOTHING sure Ronnie has better biceps and shows excellent separation however his balance is not as good as Dorians , his density is not , his proportion isn't , his calves are missing , they lack proportion in relation to them , I mean he's not complete

Dorian's is more complete better balanced , more dense just as big better condition in every single mandatory pose it doesn't matter if you can find strengths in all poses compared to Dorian you have to follow the criteria and you're not.

[Hulkster]

LOL I love how ND talks about Dorian's supposedly superior 'balance and proporition'..

guess what?

this is not balance and proporotion.

it is misshapen, poorly defined, and damn ugly.

this is the exact opposite of everything that ND preaches about.

note the piss poor arms notably too small for the barrel torso.

note the piss poor quads, devoid of shape and detail.

this is your 'balance and proportion'?

please.

yet more proof ND does not have a clue what he is talking about.

you can babble all you want, it does not mean any of it holds true to reality:

[The Next BIG Thing!]

I should have known better
Than to let you go alone
It's times like these
I can't make it on my own
Wasted days, and sleepless nights
An' I can't wait to see you again

I find I spend my time
Waiting on your call
How can I tell you, babe
My back's against the wall
I need you by my side
To tell me it's alright
Cos I don't think I can take it anymore

Is this love that I'm feeling
Is this the love that I've been searching for
Is this love or am I dreaming
This must be love
Cos it's really got a hold on me
A hold on me

I can't stop the feeling
I've been this way before
But, with you I've found the key
To open any door
I can feel my love for you
Growing stronger day by day
An' I can't wait to see you again
So I can hold you in my arms

Is this love that I'm feeling
Is this the love that I've been searching for
Is this Iove or am I dreaming
Is this the love that I've been searching for
Is this love or am I dreaming
This must be love
Cos it's really got a hold on me
You really got a hold on me


TNBT

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL I love how ND talks about Dorian's supposedly superior 'balance and proporition'..

guess what?

this is not balance and proporotion.

it is misshapen, poorly defined, and damn ugly.

this is the exact opposite of everything that ND preaches about.

note the piss poor arms notably too small for the barrel torso.

note the piss poor quads, devoid of shape and detail.

this is your 'balance and proportion'?

please.

yet more proof ND does not have a clue what he is talking about.

you can babble all you want, it does not mean any of it holds true to reality:

Hulkster you're fond of very weak arguments lol I mean what the fuck ? you just posted a ' straw man ' because its easily proven dead wrong , his arms are in almost perfect proportion & balance with his torso and the rest of his physique , you posted ONE SHOT and claim this is proof and its laughable all one has to do to correct your extremely weak argument ( ad populum , straw man ) is to post a few more pictures and supplement them with a eyewitness account on the very subject from an IFBB judge I mean this just crushes your weak opinion in one fell swoop

Bev Francis : Bodybuilder's phsyique you most admire ?

The man Dorian Yates , his combonation of size and shape makes for an awesome physique , unlike a lot of big guys he's not a load of massive parts just thrown together , His symmetry is almost perfect , Everything is in proportion , no weak bodyparts .

insult to injury Dorian himself on the topic

Interview with David Robson

[ Q ] What were some of your better physical qualities as a bodybuilder, do you think?

      Obviously I carried a lot of muscle mass and my trademark was to come into a show in super hard condition. I think my muscles had a certain quality and density from all the years of heavy training that a lot of guys didn't have.


      One thing that I think people underrated me on - it was never really mentioned because of my sheer physical size and condition - was my balance and proportion. Not only from muscle group to muscle group, but from upper body to lower body. My skeletal structure and everything else was there and in good balance.


And knowing you're stupidity you'll claim that has nothing to do with Ronnie and then I remind you Dorian when asked this specific subject said he has better balance than Ronnie and to just pound you into the fucking ground because you dare question my knowledge I'll couple that with Lee Priest who specifically comments on Dorian's balance compared to Ronnie Coleman

Lee Priest

HOW DO YOU FEEL DORIAN WOULD FAIR AGAINST RONNIE COLEMAN NOW?

I think Dorian at his best (1993) would easily beat Ronnie. Dorian might not be as symmetrical as Ronnie, but all over he was more complete and in better condition at his best.

For you to type Dorian has poor balance & proportion is retarded to say its worse than Ronnies and then proceed to post a single picture shows you're ignorant , biased and fucking stupid .

Hulkster you just got fucking owned in grand fashion . 

[suckmymuscle]

LOL I love how ND talks about Dorian's supposedly superior 'balance and proporition'..

guess what?

this is not balance and proporotion.

it is misshapen, poorly defined, and damn ugly.

  Hulkster, shape is subjective; symmetry is not. In a bodybuilding context, symmetry refers to the proportional development of muscles. Imagine the normal muscle proportions of a man, and then extrapolate that. if the triceps are normally supposed to be 60% bigger than the biceps, then this ratio needs to be maintained as the mass increases. Dorian has better symmetry because his muscles are more proportional in relation to each other. Comprehend this.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Hulkster]

you just posted a ' straw man ' because its easily proven dead wrong

no it can't. his arms are way too small for his frame.

the proof is right here and here and here:

 

its no strawman. its a fucking haystack.