part 2 Like I said, you have nothing. Post 5 quotes since Ronnie became 8 Time Mr. O champ that yates is the best of all-time. Until you do that, keep quiet. Matter of fact, let's see how many quotes you can post of yates being called "The best of all-time". I would like to see how many there are. If you are the best, people will say you're the best, like they say about Ronnie (example... greatest Mr. O, best physique, most dominant etc)
I have nothing? lol you have nothing except subjective opinions and entertaining your nonsense what part of this did you miss?
Flex magazine October 2003 from Mike Matarazzo about Dorian
DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: The ultimate warrior. A straight-up no-bulls-t bodybuilder. He backed up everything with his physique. He silenced his critics with action. He bowed out at the end of his career with grace and style. He may go down in history as the greatest bodybuilder of all time.This is 2003 mind you ! the greatest bodybuilder of all time , does it make it true? NO its subjective
Here are some quotes to refresh your memory:
Greatest/ Best/Most Dominant/Mr. Olympia/Bodybuilder/Physique Of All-Time
1) Flex stating that Ronnie is the most biggest, hardest, shredded bodybuilder in history. Flex has competed against both guys in their prime:
Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004
"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."
2) George De Pirro Flex Senior Editor Says that Ronnie is the most dominant pro bodybuilder of all-time:
FLEX Article talking about bodybuilding (Ronnie Coleman) from 96-06 Mr. O
"Anyone who denies Coleman's dominion over the past decade is truly kidding himself."
"The fact that the two contests under consideration basically bookend his reign at the top further solidifies his claim as the most dominating pro bodybuilder of all time."
3) Steve Blechman states that Ronnie is the greatest Mr. Olympia of all-time:
MD, page 44, Feb. 04, -Steve Blechman: "Ronnie Coleman is not only the greatest Mr. O of all time, he is also one of the oldest"
4) John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia stating that Ronnie has presented a physique that could not be equaled (which also means that Ronnie has surpassed "everyone", that includes your hero yates):
John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia - Personal Website
"It would be safe to say that [Ronnie Coleman] presented a physique that has never been seen by the bodybuilding world ever before. Competing at an incredibly massive 287 pounds, Ronnie destroyed the competition with a physique that could not possibly be equaled."
5) Dan Soloman on Ronnie Coleman 2003 at the 2004 Mr. Olympia:
“Last year Ronnie Coleman presented what we thought was the most extraordinary overall package in the history of the sport.”
6) Ben Weider – 2005 Mr Olympia:
“Ronnie Coleman will go down in history as the greatest Mr. Olympia of All-Time.”
7) Allan Donnelly - Flex Issue November 2007 – Day In The Life Of Ronnie Coleman:
“In bodybuilding there has been no greater champion than Ronnie Coleman.”
“But he emerged – seemingly from nowhere - as perhaps the most dominant force the sport has ever seen.”
“I can’t help but wonder if the man who could be remembered as the greatest bodybuilder in history has one more great performance yet to give.”[/b]
Flex Wheeler at the 2007 Mr. Olympia about Ronnie Coleman:
“Ronnie is the biggest, hardest and most complete Mr. Olympia that ever walked the stage. Ronnie will go down as far as right now, unless somebody topples him in eight years. He’s the greatest Mr. Olympia of All-Time. I find it very hard to believe that somebody to be able to super exceed that.
9) Dave Palumbo at the 2007 Mr. Olympia about Ronnie Coleman:
“Ronnie Coleman is the greatest Mr. Olympia champion of All-Time. He has the most career wins.”
10) Dan Soloman & Gunter Schlierkamp at the 2007 Mr. Olympia about Ronnie Coleman:
“Ronnie Coleman at his very best was the greatest bodybuilder to ever live and it’s going to be a long time until someone comes along and prove other wise.
Gunter Schlierkamp: Yes.”
11) David Robson - 2007 Mr. Olympia Review:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson315.htm
“Not the perfect ending for Ronnie but he will leave the sport secure in the knowledge that he is the greatest pro bodybuilder ever to grace the stage.”
12) Bob Cicherillo - Pro Bodybuilding Weekly Show #90, October 1, 2007:
“What we just witnessed was history in the making. Ronnie would stop short of saying that he is the greatest of All-Time. I actually took that opportunity to say, you know what Ronnie, you can say it man. You are the best bodybuilder of All-Time.”
13) ) Written by Raymond Cassar - 2007 Muscletime Olympia Report
http://www.muscletime.com/news/latest/2007-mr-olympia-analysis/
“First I need to get one thing out of the way: There is no one alive that can beat Ronnie Coleman when he is at his best – No One! (and his best for me was when he won the 2001 Arnold Classic).”
14) Bob Cicherillo - PBW "2007 Olympia Prediction Show!" Show #89, September 24, 2007
"When we talk about Ronnie Coleman, we almost have to talk about him as different versions of Ronnie. You got the 1998 & 2001 version of Ronnie. At 100% there's not a soul on this planet or any other that can touch him.
15) MR. OLYMPIA: EXPECTING THE UNEXPECTED
By: SHAWN PERINE
http://www.flexonline.com/news/245
"The man many consider the greatest bodybuilder who’s ever lived (Cutler himself has paid Coleman such a tribute) will no doubt squeeze every last ounce of potential from his superannuated self in his fight to regain his supremacy."
16) Peter McGough stating that Ronnie in his prime is unbeatable. Peter has seen both guys in their prime:
Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005
"Ronnie sporting that (01 ASC) look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."
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See my rebuttal to all these quotes in the other post , all subjective and now you're appealing to numbers see argument ad populum , just because a lot of people hold a particular opinion
does NOT make that opinion true just popular , so nice fluff job it means zero at the end of the day
Quoted From
1) Dorian Yates:
6 Time Mr. Olympia – 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997
Night Of Champions Winner – 1991
Runner up in Mr. Olympia - 1991
2) Flex Wheeler:
4 Time Arnold Classic Winner – 1993, 1997, 1998, 2000
3 Time Runner up in Mr. Olympia – 1993, 1998, 1999
Night Of Champions Winner - 1996
5 Time Ironman Pro Winner – 1993, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998
3) Jay Cutler:
2 Time Mr. Olympia Winner – 2006, 2007
3 Time Arnold Classic Winner – 2002, 2003, 2004
4 Time Runner up in Mr. Olympia – 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005
Night Of Champions Winner - 2000
Ironman Pro Winner - 2003
4) John Hansen:
2 Time Natural Mr.Universe – 1992, 1996
Natural Mr. Olympia Winner - 1998
5) Bob Cicherillo:
Masters Pro World - IFBB, Winner – 2006
6) Gunter Schlierkamp:
Show of Strength Pro Championship - IFBB, Winner - 2002
Other Quotes By:
Mike Mattarazo – Pro Bodybuilder
Dave Palumbo - Bodybuilder
Ben Weider - Co-Founder of the IFBB
Peter McGough - Flex Magazine Writer - One of the world's most renowned experts in the sport of bodybuilding.
Dan Soloman - Pro Bodybuilding Weekly
George De Pirro - Flex Magazine Senior Editor
Steve Blechman - MD publisher/Owner
Allan Donnelly – Flex Magazine Writer
Shawn Perine - Flex Magazine Senior Writer
Raymond Cassar – MuscleTime Writer/Photographer
David Robson – Bodybuilder, Martial Artist, Accredited Personal Trainer and Writer
More FILLER to make your post appear to have content see fluff above and see argument ad populum as well
Face it. The pics, videos, quotes etc. are in Ronnie's favour big time. This thread should be over, but you ND are dragging this thing along for way too long. Just let it go. If you don't want to admit that Ronnie is better, all you have to do is stop posting in this thread and we would do the same. Yates was a great champion, but like he said:
Dorian yates states at the 2000 Mr. Olympia about Ronnie Coleman:
"Things are always progressing. People say to me, Dorian you are incredible, I've never seen a physique bigger and better. Hey, Of course you will. Things never stand still." (Note: Ronnie Mr. O 1998, 1999, 2003 & 2001 ASC )
Hey argument ad populum strike again lol you face it kid , a popular opinion doesn't make it true no matter how many people hold that opinion and especially when the opinion is of a subjective nature
This thread could have been over in 1 page but someone wasn't secure enough in their opinion to leave it alone and it wasn't me lol hence why I started this thread . now I love how all you guys keep claiming Ronnie is so much better and its not even worth comparing the two but yet the thread is 1400+ pages why? if you really left that way you'd leave it alone and dismiss me as a lunatic yet it goes on why?
This thread has ran this long NOT because I'm trying to convince Coleman fans Dorian was better NO I knew right away its to subjective to even attempt to prove , no this thread is about ME and more knowledgeable people correcting all the bullshit you people type , such as Dorian Yates is the most overrated bodybuilder of all time , Dorian Yates lost the 1993 Mr Olympia , Dorian Yates didn't win in 1994 , Dorian Yates' conditioning is a myth , and just when I correct that nonsense you people come up with more garbage , my quotes are right and yours mean nothing lol I mean it never stops
I don't have to admit Ronnie is the better champion compared to Dorian because I'm NOT of that opinion and I think I've proven my case why he's not , Yates has better balance & proportion , better conditioning & density , better posing & presentation , equal if not greater muscular bulk he simply meets the criteria better than Ronnie hence why he would beat Ronnie , now unlike you people I can admit there is a possibility Ronnie could be Dorian , alas you people can't even admit that ( see biased and delusional )
And as far as I should stop posting on this thread and you guys will , Ummm I was gone for MONTHS yet this keep on trucking and why? because you can't let go you have something to prove to ME and other Yates supporters . this thread could have been 1 page and I would have left well enough alone but NO you people have a compulsion to prove Ronnie is the best , and I was gone for months and you people still carried on so thats twice I was confident to leave my opinion to stand on its own two feet , you people can't .
You want off of this thread ....stop posting its that simple . if all of you stop posting then who would be left ? just Yates supporters and who would we argue with? lol no one . just like Hulkster who many times claimed " I'm done with this thread " yet still have an overwhelming desire to prove something he can't.
Dorian yates states at the 2000 Mr. Olympia about Ronnie Coleman:
"Things are always progressing. People say to me, Dorian you are incredible, I've never seen a physique bigger and better. Hey, Of course you will. Things never stand still." (Note: Ronnie Mr. O 1998, 1999, 2003 & 2001 ASC
This is a bullshit quote plain & simple he never states that Ronnie 2000 is bigger & better thats you trying to connect the dots , he said YOU WILL not you have especially not Ronnie 2000 , big yes smooth as a basies ass too thats not progressing
and you people can't answer this question , what has Ronnie improved on that Dorian didn't years earlier?
Ronnie 1998 - did he show anything Dorian didn't years before? NO well yes bitch-tits but what new did he bring to the table? was he bigger? NO 249 pounds was he better conditioned? NO equal and thats being fair , better balance & proportion? NO better posing & presentation? NO what new did he bring to the table?
Ronnie 1999 - same questions is he bigger? NO Yates was as high as 270 pounds in 1997 , was he better conditioned? NO it wasn't equal here both Ronnie & McGough state 1998 was his pinnacle for conditioning , did he have better balance & proportion? NO posing & presentation? NO
Ronnie 2001 - Bigger ? NO 244-247 pounds sorry No new level of size here sport , conditioning , perhaps equal , balance & proportion? NOPE same old Ronnie , posing & presentation? NO what are you left with?
Ronnie 2003 - This is where Ronnie makes a huge leap in size , he's much bigger than Yates was on-stage , what happens to his conditioning in the process? suffers for the new found size , although good for a man that heavy , balance & proportion ? all-time worse , posing & presentation? same old Ronnie
So what has he improved on? size and thats it period. the whole sport has suffered in terms of conditioning from the 1990s Ronnie included , sure everyones bigger but are they bone dry & rock hard? NO so the sport has stopped dead in tracks in the conditioning department , hell offseason Yates has better conditioning than almost everyone at a similar weight
So has a bodybuilder come along who could match Dorian in terms of balance & proportion , conditioning & density , posing & presentation while carrying 260 pounds of muscle? NOPE has a bodybuilder come along while being much bigger than Dorian , but everything lags behind? Yes Ronnie Coleman 2003 .
