Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

...like I said, he should not have hit it very often.

um. where those suppost to look GOOD?

 

The first pic clearly proves my point thank you lol huge biceps/triceps small forearms ( in relation ) weak midsection , gigantic quads dominating weak calves , lmfao GLUTES that can be seen from the front WTF ? lol

So to answer your question were those supposed to look good? to a delusional Coleman guy NO but they prove my point Dorian has better muscle balance & proportion , density & conditioning I mean you can't escape that , Ronnie is a collection of parts clearly evident in all pics you post .

[Hulkster]

I find it ironic that the people who have done nothing but spend 1440 pages doing nothing but trying to discredit hundreds of visually dominant comparisons of ronnie over dorian can say anyone is on the 'defensive'..

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

You cannot argue with Hulkster.
He is like a religious extremist.
Totally devoid of logic or reasoning.
The most dangerous kind... the foolish believer.

You're right he's way beyond rational thought and conversation ! but whats fun is to make him look stupid lol its so easy too.

[suckmymuscle]

  Hulkster is very tiresome. This is like trying to argue which would win between the irresistible force and the unmovable object.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Shockwave]

I find it odd that you cannot possibly come to the conclusion that there is no "visual" evidence in a sport of opinions, with only a few opinions that matters. The Judges.
Sorry, but no matter who you or I feel should win, the judges make the call.
Therefore, our opinions count for nil.
And the judges did make the call.
Dorian.

[The Next BIG Thing!]

Nice eye.
I see the same thing when I look in the mirror, and I do just that.
Weird.

LOL! I went through a phase of never doing any iso work on my right arm. Left only.

Then I looked a pic of myself in a double-biceps, and my left arm had taken over.

However, when I work out my back, especially wide-grip pulldown, I still nearly always complete my sets to find that my left arm feels way more pumped than my left. It's a terrible feeling, I hate it.

So I can't resist a single high-reps, left-arm-only d/b set, if I'm to leave the gym happy.



TNBT

[suckmymuscle]

  Hey, Hulkster, let's argue about which would win a fight between matter and energy. I will be the advocate for matter and you will be for the advocate for energy. I feel that that  have a bigger chance of convincing you that matter and energy are equally great than convincing you that Dorian is as great as Ronnie.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Hulkster]

I find it odd that you cannot possibly come to the conclusion that there is no "visual" evidence in a sport of opinions, with only a few opinions that matters. The Judges.
Sorry, but no matter who you or I feel should win, the judges make the call.
Therefore, our opinions count for nil.
And the judges did make the call.
Dorian.

far before Ronnie came close to hitting his peak.

according to your logic, 93 dorian would still lose to Haney, because when Haney and yates competed, the judges did make the call.

Lee Haney.

 

Can you guys not understand simple things like this? I mean honestly.

the lack of thought that goes into some of these "arguments" is appalling.

no offense.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I find it ironic that the people who have done nothing but spend 1440 pages doing nothing but trying to discredit hundreds of visually dominant comparisons of ronnie over dorian can say anyone is on the 'defensive'..

 

dominant to who? you and the rest of the ignorant? Hulkster you see what you want in pics I see what the judges are looking for in pics , big difference 

I see Dorian's muscles having a nice balance & proportion between the other from head to toe you see Ronnie with the same , one of his wrong lol and it ain't me because on the surface I'm no judge but here what separates me from you , I have had a LOT of my points verified after the fact mind you by eyewitnesses you unfortunately can't do the same 

I mean this crushes absolutely anything you can come up with and why? because this is from an esteemed IFBB bodybuilding judge this is coming from someone who matters , someone who's opinion counts

Bev Francis : Bodybuilder's phsyique you most admire ?

The man Dorian Yates , his combonation of size and shape makes for an awesome physique , unlike a lot of big guys he's not a load of massive parts just thrown together , His symmetry is almost perfect , Everything is in proportion , no weak bodyparts .

[Shockwave]

far before Ronnie came close to hitting his peak.

according to your logic, 93 dorian would still lose to Haney, because when Haney and yates competed, the judges did make the call.

Lee Haney.

 

Can you guys not understand simple things like this? I mean honestly.

the lack of thought that goes into some of these "arguments" is appalling.

no offense.

I have no reason to think otherwise.
Haney may have just kept improving, keeping just out of Dorian's grasp.

[NarcissisticDeity]

far before Ronnie came close to hitting his peak.

according to your logic, 93 dorian would still lose to Haney, because when Haney and yates competed, the judges did make the call.

Lee Haney.

 

Can you guys not understand simple things like this? I mean honestly.

the lack of thought that goes into some of these "arguments" is appalling.

no offense.

Hulkster what was Ronnie missing in 1998 that he wasn't in 1997? was it mass? NO he was 255 pounds , was it any new body part that be brought up? NO what was he missing? conditioning he was already winning contests in 1995/96/97 he was a lot closer to peak than you'd like to admit .

[Hulkster]

I have no reason to think otherwise.
Haney may have just kept improving, keeping just out of Dorian's grasp.

sort of like Ronnie did up until 2001?

he was out of dorian's grasp too at that point. no matter what year shape dorian showed up in..

[NarcissisticDeity]

sort of like Ronnie did up until 2001?

he was out of dorian's grasp too at that point. no matter what year shape dorian showed up in..

How did he improve in 2001? lol he didn't he reached a pinnacle of size & conditioning for himself in 2001 so what , he was 244-247  pounds , Yates was 260 pounds with equal if not better conditioning and better balance & proportion , sorry slick one need look no further than 1999 Mr Olympia when Ronnie came in heavier and his conditioning suffered for it , 2000 Mr Olympia he was huge 264 pounds and you guessed it holding more water than ever whenever Ronnie tried to add size his conditioning suffered for it , what does Ronnie do in 2001 ? cuts out all the bullshit and totally dries out and what happens? he shrinks down to 244-247 pounds ! and he looked spectacular for it but he wasn't like Dorian who could go as high as 270 pounds and maintain his insane conditioning .

[Hulkster]

How did he improve in 2001? lol he didn't he reached a pinnacle of size & conditioning for himself in 2001 so what

not according to your best friend Peter McGough..

LOL

[NarcissisticDeity]

not according to your best friend Peter McGough..

LOL

I obviously meant UNTIL 2001 and again the point stands he was 244-247 pounds how is this an improvement in size over Yates? who was as high as 270 pounds in 1997 with equal conditioning

[Iceman1981]

 How am I changing the meaning of what he said? We simply don't know if he was claiming that Ronnie's 2001 ASC physique would be unbeatable by his contemporary competitors of by all bodybuilders who ever ciompeted. Here is what McGough said:

 "Ronnie in that shape would be unbeatable"

  He was probably refering to Ronnie's contemporary crop of competitors in 2001. There is no evidence that he was implying that Ronnie would be unbeatable by every bodybuilder who ever stepped onstage, which is what you you are affirming that he said. He might have meant that, but we can't say for sure. Conversely, his quote about Dorian's conditioning as the best of any bodybuilder who ever stepped onstage is as clear as day:

 "No bodybuilder has ever been as hard and dry as the man who won six Sandows."

  Oh geez, see how a single word makes all the difference?

  As for the rest of my post, I'm glad that you remained silent, which is synonymous with an admission that you got owned.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Hey buddy, are you this dumb or just acting dumb? Peter's quote was in 2005. You see that?, 2005

Peter McGough Flex Magazine August 2005

“Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack.”

I'll explain this for the final/last time. It's simple to understand what Peter means if you have a brain. The quote was made in 2005. He was talking about yates 1993 and Ronnie ASC 2001. Knowing this, he states that the best physique he ever saw onstage was Ronnie (ASC 01"). He says "Unbeatable" in the same damn sentence when talking about yates. Since we all know that bodybuilding contests are judged on stage (I hope that you know that) and not in a gym wearing black socks, it is as clear as day that Peter is talking about "Ronnie ASC 01" beating any previous physique to 2005 because the damn quote was made in 2005.

You're the only guy arguing against this quote. That should tell you something right there if the rest of your side is quiet about it.  

Why waste my time responding to the rest of your previous post when all you type is bullshyt? Our argument is on what Peter said and that's what I'm sticking to.

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack.”

You all should listen to Peter since he knows what he is talking bout. Any argument against that quote is just straight up biased. Since all of you love to pick and choose Peter's quotes, I suggest you read that one. Either accept all of Peters quotes or none at all. His quotes are in line with my argument. Too bad for the yates side.


Now that's what you call being OWNED

[Iceman1981]

This pic needs to make a comeback. 

That's a great pic indeed. Yates looks great here. Atleast I admit when he looks great.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Hey buddy, are you this dumb or just acting dumb? Peter's quote was in 2005. You see that?, 2005

Peter McGough Flex Magazine August 2005

“Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack.”

I'll explain this for the final/last time. It's simple to understand what Peter means if you have a brain. The quote was made in 2005. He was talking about yates 1993 and Ronnie ASC 2001. Knowing this, he states that the best physique he ever saw onstage was Ronnie (ASC 01"). He says "Unbeatable" in the same damn sentence when talking about yates. Since we all know that bodybuilding contests are judged on stage (I hope that you know that) and not in a gym wearing black socks, it is as clear as day that Peter is talking about "Ronnie ASC 01" beating any previous physique to 2005 because the damn quote was made in 2005.

You're the only guy arguing against this quote. That should tell you something right there if the rest of your side is quiet about it. 

Why waste my time responding to the rest of your previous post when all you type is bullshyt? Our argument is on what Peter said and that's what I'm sticking to.

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack.”

You all should listen to Peter since he knows what he is talking bout. Any argument against that quote is just straight up biased. Since all of you love to pick and choose Peter's quotes, I suggest you read that one. Either accept all of Peters quotes or none at all. His quotes are in line with my argument. Too bad for the yates side.


Now that's what you call being OWNED

Peter McGough Flex Magazine Sept 2005

On July 4, I found myself in conversation with Lou Ferrigno. No, we weren't talking about Paul Revere and Mad King George; instead, with the 2005 Olympia Weekend looming like a Ronnie Coleman lat spread, the Hulk wanted to know who I thought was the best-ever Mr. Olympia. My response was that it was impossible to choose. All any athlete--in any sport--can do is become the best in his era, and it is futile to try to compare champions from different eras.

My response was that it was impossible to choose.

[The Next BIG Thing!]

Peter McGough again? The all-seeing eye... 

He outlined his reply to Ferrigno's playground kweschin, who's the greatest ever...

Lou's response to that was telling:


He said Excuse me?


I remember the Hulk producer said once on a documentary, that Lou came to him one day and said

Hey Jewwy, how comes de Incwedible Huwk dudn' hab moah diawogue?


Jerry replied Well Louey, I just don't think it's a great idea for him to talk. And if he did talk, I don't think he should come from Brooklyn...


LOLOLOLOLOL!



TNBT

[Mons Venus]

Old and retired. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZ

[IceCold]

Hey buddy, are you this dumb or just acting dumb? Peter's quote was in 2005. You see that?, 2005

Peter McGough Flex Magazine August 2005

“Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack.”

I'll explain this for the final/last time. It's simple to understand what Peter means if you have a brain. The quote was made in 2005. He was talking about yates 1993 and Ronnie ASC 2001. Knowing this, he states that the best physique he ever saw onstage was Ronnie (ASC 01"). He says "Unbeatable" in the same damn sentence when talking about yates. Since we all know that bodybuilding contests are judged on stage (I hope that you know that) and not in a gym wearing black socks, it is as clear as day that Peter is talking about "Ronnie ASC 01" beating any previous physique to 2005 because the damn quote was made in 2005.

You're the only guy arguing against this quote. That should tell you something right there if the rest of your side is quiet about it.  

Why waste my time responding to the rest of your previous post when all you type is bullshyt? Our argument is on what Peter said and that's what I'm sticking to.

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack.”

You all should listen to Peter since he knows what he is talking bout. Any argument against that quote is just straight up biased. Since all of you love to pick and choose Peter's quotes, I suggest you read that one. Either accept all of Peters quotes or none at all. His quotes are in line with my argument. Too bad for the yates side.


Now that's what you call being OWNED

humpster and dumpster have continously ridiculed PM for his comments.

either accept all of them or none when you try to post what he says as a source.

you cant just post what you want and disregard when it doesnt agree with you.

it doesnt work that way.

humpster said he knows more than PM and ridiculed him when he said yates should have won in 94.

[The Next BIG Thing!]

Old and retired. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZ

You said something similar recently.

You tired of this thread, Venus? What gets you going then?


TNBT

[bizzy]

"but he wasn't like Dorian who could go as high as 270 pounds and maintain his insane conditioning"

[Shockwave]

Am I alone when I think Ronnie, post 98, looks like a collection of random bodyparts that creates a physique that looks like dogshit?

[slaveboy1980]

I reckon Dorian from time to time was prone to overdieting.

That will rob anyone of a place, or at least it should.

The emaciated look is bloody awful. A slightly watery guy looks better.

I'll look for a pic.



TNBT

i agree, and he has said so himself (that he overdieted several times). he could probably stepped on stage at close to 280lbs in great shape.