Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

Well that quote is about what you and Hulkster are debating. Now show me where I post part of the quote? I haven't been caught doing anything. LOL. I posted the whole quote about Ronnie 99 advancing the sport and other quotes of Ronnie ASC 01 being the best physique ever. Oh yeah, now you've got me, LOL. 

Nope nice try you did it before you selected a part if the quote and NOT all of it for a reason  and to be honest with you I could care less its subjective anyway .

and again answer my question how was the sport advanced in 1999? Dorian was 257 pounds in 1993 with better conditioning & density , better balance & proportion , advanced my ass

Yates wasn't needed in the muscularity round in 1993 he was so far ahead of everyone and Ronnie was " lucky " to beat Flex again in 1999 lol advance the sport lol his conditioning was lacking over the previous year thats regression not progression 

2003 he changed the sport no if ands or buts about it , 1999 not quite.

[Hulkster]

ND when are you going to finally realize that quotes (as you can see we have the same people making contradictory opinions) don't mean shit?

its the visual evidence that we all can see that really matters.

and when we look at that, Ronnie 99 was just as ripped as ronnie 98, if not moreso, only with more size and fullness.

why can you not deal with this?

even hellen keller could see that ronnie 99 was in as good or better shape, just like Peter said.

[Hulkster]

notice: better arm detail. better quad detail. better ab detail. better pec detail.

you don't have anything left to prove your point.

we have both quotes and visuals.

you have only quotes. no visuals.

too bad this is a visual sport..

[Iceman1981]

Take it for what it's worth. It doesnt matter what year, 98, 99, 03 etc. Ronnie is better than yates.

Flex,  Oct, 2006  by George De Pirro

GEORGE DE PIRRO - "Of all the Olympia wins, what is your most outstanding memory?"

Ronnie - "The first one [1998]. I never even dreamed of winning the Mr. Olympia. Not only did I not even dream of winning Mr. Olympia, I never thought I would place in the top three. Top five was probably more my goal than anything."

GEORGE DE PIRRO - "Most of your wins have been dominating at the Olympia. What would you say was your best performance at an Olympia?"

Ronnie - "I like 2003. I like the conditioning of last year, but in 2003, I had conditioning and size. Last year, I had more conditioning than size. So that's what I plan to do this time: more conditioning with my size."

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND when are you going to finally realize that quotes (as you can see we have the same people making contradictory opinions) don't mean shit?

its the visual evidence that we all can see that really matters.

and when we look at that, Ronnie 99 was just as ripped as ronnie 98, if not moreso, only with more size and fullness.

why can you not deal with this?

even hellen keller could see that ronnie 99 was in as good or better shape, just like Peter said.

Lets see when quotes SILENCE Hulkster he reverts back to posting ' comparisons ' of obvious discrepancy lol thats when you know he's owned

seriously you're beyond rational logical debate you're finished.

[NarcissisticDeity]

notice: better arm detail. better quad detail. better ab detail. better pec detail.

you don't have anything left to prove your point.

we have both quotes and visuals.

you have only quotes. no visuals.

too bad this is a visual sport..

lmfao NO visuals? see above  and you call blurry 98 screencaps from youtube visual evidence? lol Hulkster you're moved beyond being honest even with yourself.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Take it for what it's worth. It doesnt matter what year, 98, 99, 03 etc. Ronnie is better than yates.

Flex,  Oct, 2006  by George De Pirro

GEORGE DE PIRRO - "Of all the Olympia wins, what is your most outstanding memory?"

Ronnie - "The first one [1998]. I never even dreamed of winning the Mr. Olympia. Not only did I not even dream of winning Mr. Olympia, I never thought I would place in the top three. Top five was probably more my goal than anything."

GEORGE DE PIRRO - "Most of your wins have been dominating at the Olympia. What would you say was your best performance at an Olympia?"

Ronnie - "I like 2003. I like the conditioning of last year, but in 2003, I had conditioning and size. Last year, I had more conditioning than size. So that's what I plan to do this time: more conditioning with my size."

Pro Bodybuilding Weekly

3 weeks ago

Ronnie what was your best Olympia

Ronnie : My first because my conditioning was spot-on

he's stating the obvious , I hope you're not trying to say he had comparable conditioning in 2003 compared to 1998? lol

[Hulkster]

I love how ND just picks and chooses which quotes to believe, ignores the contradictory ones, and shoves the ones that he likes down our throats..

 

ps I also love how all the visual evidence is also no good simply because it shows you are wrong..

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

I love how ND just picks and chooses which quotes to believe, ignores the contradictory ones, and shoves the ones that he likes down our throats..

 

ps I also love how all the visual evidence is also no good simply because it shows you are wrong..

 

My this posts screams " I'm lost " lol

give it up Ronnie Coleman silences your bull shit

[Iceman1981]

Nope nice try you did it before you selected a part if the quote and NOT all of it for a reason  and to be honest with you I could care less its subjective anyway .

and again answer my question how was the sport advanced in 1999? Dorian was 257 pounds in 1993 with better conditioning & density , better balance & proportion , advanced my ass

Yates wasn't needed in the muscularity round in 1993 he was so far ahead of everyone and Ronnie was " lucky " to beat Flex again in 1999 lol advance the sport lol his conditioning was lacking over the previous year thats regression not progression 

2003 he changed the sport no if ands or buts about it , 1999 not quite.

Pure bullshyt, you have nothing on me. So stop your bullshyt. Ronnie fans, pics, videos, quotes say that Ronnie 99 advanced the sport. What else do you want? LOL, now you're stating that Ronnie got lucky against Flex in 99? Oh man, you are such a sore bitter loser.

[Iceman1981]

Pro Bodybuilding Weekly

3 weeks ago

Ronnie what was your best Olympia

Ronnie : My first because my conditioning was spot-on

he's stating the obvious , I hope you're not trying to say he had comparable conditioning in 2003 compared to 1998? lol

Did the quote say best conditioning or best performance? That will give you your answer.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Pure bullshyt, you have nothing on me. So stop your bullshyt. Ronnie fans, pics, videos, quotes say that Ronnie 99 advanced the sport. What else do you want? LOL, now you're stating that Ronnie got lucky against Flex in 99? Oh man, you are such a sore bitter loser.

I love how I explain in detail how what Ronnie did in 99 was already done in 93 and you being the moron you are can't refute this so you just type empty words " Pure bullshyt, you have nothing on me. So stop your bullshyt "

and I'm not stating Ronnie got lucky in 99 

Jon Hotten Muscle :
[Coleman's 1998 Olympia victory] was not a definitive win. In 99, Big Ron was lucky to defeat Flex Wheeler again. Levrone thought he'd beaten him twice, in 2000 and 2002. At the 2002 show, Levrone had won both of the evening rounds (a year on, at the Olympia press conference before the 2003 show, Coleman would chide Levrone, asking him, 'When was the last time you beat me?' Levrone replied, 'Last year.'). In 2001, Jay Cutler beat Ronnie in both the first two rounds and lost by four points.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Did the quote say best conditioning or best performance? That will give you your answer.

No it didn't say ' best performance ' it said best Olympia and Ronnie went on to say 98 because his condition was SPOT ON

deal with it its old news

[NarcissisticDeity]

See the reason Hulkster is fighting this is because he knows he's wrong and doesn't want to be proven wrong by me AGAIN ( and again ) but he knows he wont have any advantages over Dorian

Ronnie 99 is behind Dorian is balance & proportion , he's behind Yates in density & conditioning , he has NO size advantage , and his posing leaves a lot to be desired , he can barely hit a correct mandatory so what is he left with? whats supposed to push him over the edge and beat Yates so easily? lol

NOTHING

Dorian is 257-260 pounds with unmatched density & dryness and better balance & proportion , so how is Ronnie supposed to beat him when he's behind in the criteria?  he may have had advantages in size & conditioning compared to Flex in 1999 but NOT on Yates

lets entertain Hulkster's lunacy for a moment and say size & conditioning and dead equal , Dorian still wins with better balance & proportion and posing & presentation lol you people can't counter this 1400+ pages and 14,000 excuses you've yet to counter this.

[Iceman1981]

No it didn't say ' best performance ' it said best Olympia and Ronnie went on to say 98 because his condition was SPOT ON

deal with it its old news

Seriously, are you actually this stupid?

George De Pirro - "Most of your wins have been dominating at the Olympia. What would you say was your best performance at an Olympia?"

Can you actually read?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Seriously, are you actually this stupid?

George De Pirro - "Most of your wins have been dominating at the Olympia. What would you say was your best performance at an Olympia?"

Can you actually read?

Moron can you? Ronnie said 1998 was get over it , and lmfao at most of his wins being dominating another bullshit claim he only won 3 of his eight with straight 5's I.E. dominating the competition

[Hulkster]

Seriously, are you actually this stupid?

George De Pirro - "Most of your wins have been dominating at the Olympia. What would you say was your best performance at an Olympia?"

Can you actually read?

yes, he is that stupid, and no I don't think he can read.

every single person who ever debates with ND says the exact same thing:

this guy cannot read or understand english. He also avoids visuals and plays the quote game but only with quotes that fit his agenda. All others are ignored .

 

[Hulkster]

I love how I explain in detail how what Ronnie did in 99 was already done in 93

uh...no it wasn't:

 

[Iceman1981]

I love how I explain in detail how what Ronnie did in 99 was already done in 93 and you being the moron you are can't refute this so you just type empty words " Pure bullshyt, you have nothing on me. So stop your bullshyt "

and I'm not stating Ronnie got lucky in 99 

Jon Hotten Muscle :
[Coleman's 1998 Olympia victory] was not a definitive win. In 99, Big Ron was lucky to defeat Flex Wheeler again. Levrone thought he'd beaten him twice, in 2000 and 2002. At the 2002 show, Levrone had won both of the evening rounds (a year on, at the Olympia press conference before the 2003 show, Coleman would chide Levrone, asking him, 'When was the last time you beat me?' Levrone replied, 'Last year.'). In 2001, Jay Cutler beat Ronnie in both the first two rounds and lost by four points.

You're just posting the same bull over and over. I don't need to stoop down to your level.

Here is Flex (the man himself) stating that he knew he lost at the 98 Mr. O.

JM: When they announced you in second place, what went through your head?

FW:You know honestly I knew that I didn't win. I knew I didn't win after the prejudging because I sit down and I talk to everybody that I talk to. Obviously I couldn't show them what they wanted to see. So that happened. I talked to all the writers and I told them my feelings and they said they disagreed and that yes, Ronnie looked ridiculous.

If he couldn't win in 98, there was no way he could of won in 99. Here is the score card if you want to see:

Place    Name                 Country      1 2 3 4         Pnts  

1         Ronnie Coleman    USA           5 5 5 5           20  
2         Flex Wheeler        USA           10 10 10 10     40  


Now since you can't win the debate, you're stating Ronnie was lucky to win the 99 Mr. O? LOL, what a joke.

[NarcissisticDeity]

yes, he is that stupid, and no I don't think he can read.

every single person who ever debates with ND says the exact same thing:

this guy cannot read or understand english. He also avoids visuals and plays the quote game but only with quotes that fit his agenda. All others are ignored .

 

Everything you just typed you're guilty of  you avoid MY visuals , you avoid and dismiss all the pro Yates quotes you're a hypocrite and thats an insult 

[NarcissisticDeity]

You're just posting the same bull over and over. I don't need to stoop down to your level.

Here is Flex (the man himself) stating that he knew he lost at the 98 Mr. O.

JM: When they announced you in second place, what went through your head?

FW:You know honestly I knew that I didn't win. I knew I didn't win after the prejudging because I sit down and I talk to everybody that I talk to. Obviously I couldn't show them what they wanted to see. So that happened. I talked to all the writers and I told them my feelings and they said they disagreed and that yes, Ronnie looked ridiculous.

If he couldn't win in 98, there was no way he could of won in 99. Here is the score card if you want to see:

Place    Name                 Country      1 2 3 4         Pnts 

1         Ronnie Coleman    USA           5 5 5 5           20 
2         Flex Wheeler        USA           10 10 10 10     40 


Now since you can't win the debate, you're stating Ronnie was lucky to win the 99 Mr. O? LOL, what a joke.

Oh boy you can't pay attention for shit , MORON ( a common trait among Coleman fans ) I wasn't stating Ronnie was lucky to win in 99 did you miss the quote moron? did you see my original post with the word lucky in quotation marks? and WOW-WE you posted the score card yeahhhhhhhhhhhh I did that eons ago I know what the score was and the quote you posted is OLD NEWS  wow you're johnny-on-the-spot aren't you lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

uh...no it wasn't:

 

Thanks for proving my point 

Dorian 1993 was 257 pounds he was bone dry & rock hard , he had better balance & proportion than Ronnie and posing & presentation old news , fast forward 6 years later Ronnie is the same weight , isn't as well conditioned as Dorian can't touch him in balance & proportion lol he can still barely manage a mandatory pose

how is the sport advanced? lol it wasn't until 2003 

[Hulkster]

mr. twigs on a barrel does not have better proportions than Ronnie.

sorry.

undersized arms (even in 93 as you can see) is a major proportional flaw.

as is a body type like this:

[Hulkster]

I wonder: had the judges not been so biased in 93, would they have seen dorian completely getting owned in some of the mandatories?

you like to claim that calling out dorian would have been 'redundant'.

well guess what: apparently NOT:

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

mr. twigs on a barrel does not have better proportions than Ronnie.

sorry.

undersized arms (even in 93 as you can see) is a major proportional flaw.

as is a body type like this:

Lets see when owned look for dumb excuses and straw men lol Yates has NO proportional flaws , in certain poses his arms can look small but they're NOT and his balance & proportion murder Ronnie

I mean you type such utter bullshit talking about Doian's major proportional flaws yet ignore Ronnie lack of proportion in his arms , legs , his overdeveloped ass that can be seen from the front , his arms to long for his torso , his short torso I mean lets entertain your fantasy where Dorian's arms were undersized the rest of him would STILL BLOW RONNIE OUT OF THE WATER in terms of proportion , no matter what you come up with you're always fucked and thats me entertaining your bull shit

the reality is as the IFBB judge Bev Francis said

Bev Francis : Bodybuilder's phsyique you most admire ?

The man Dorian Yates , his combonation of size and shape makes for an awesome physique , unlike a lot of big guys he's not a load of massive parts just thrown together , His symmetry is almost perfect , Everything is in proportion , no weak bodyparts .