Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

can you guess which one is the real Dorian?

Peter McGough

He was 269 pounds of rock-hard shapely (yes, shapely) head-to-toe muscle.

Wow Neo looks like your assessment that he was ' soft and doughy ' is wrong and ignorant 

Dorian's density at this weight is astounding to claim he's soft in anyway shape or form is just screaming how ignorant and biased you are

Rock Hard : Density - Muscle hardness, which is also related to muscu-lar definition. A bodybuilder can be well-defined and still have excess fat within each major muscle complex. But when he has muscle density, even this intramuscular fat has been eliminated. A combination of muscle mass and muscle density is highly prized among all competitive bodybuilders.

That my friend means Dorian at 269 pounds is the epitome of conditioned mass , and please read the parts where density & mass ( 269 pounds ) is highly prized among ALL competitive bodybuilders , you can not counter this , Dorian has better balance & proportion than Ronnie , better conditioning and density and he's more complete and is a better technical poser , there is NO WAY Ronnie can beat this .

[NarcissisticDeity]

yawn, too bad pics disprove everything you say.




more points to ponder from the same guy.

Shawn Ray – 2003 Year in Review (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Ridiculous" Ronnie Coleman would win his 6th Sandow Trophy in a row looking absolutely ridiculous! This guy was from another planet! Ronnie added about a million pounds of muscle from the previous year and squashed the competition on sheer MASS! Unbelievable is what Ronnie was this night!"

blah blah, more excuses. Tanning oil and stage lighting has a way of making bodybuilders look softer and watery. I think most people would agree that bodybuilders look most impressive in the gym a couple of weeks pre-contest.

yawn, too bad pics disprove everything you say.

lmfao you post a slanted pic comparison where Dorian is at the far end that proved ZERO other than your desperation and ironically that is exactly the contest the IFBB judge was referring to , but I'm sure you would know more than him who was there live and in the flesh you accomplished nothing with this , absolutely nothing

Shawn Ray – 2003 Year in Review (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Ridiculous" Ronnie Coleman would win his 6th Sandow Trophy in a row looking absolutely ridiculous! This guy was from another planet! Ronnie added about a million pounds of muscle from the previous year and squashed the competition on sheer MASS! Unbelievable is what Ronnie was this night!"

What does this have to do with anything?  Neo another dumb paragraph that has NOTHING to do with what I said lol what the fuck? 

blah blah, more excuses. Tanning oil and stage lighting has a way of making bodybuilders look softer and watery. I think most people would agree that bodybuilders look most impressive in the gym a couple of weeks pre-contest.

man you put zero fucking effort into this whole post lol and yes thats how contests are judged in the gym lol Neo I mean please just delete this thread and I wont bring it up again , a gift from me to you lol

[NeoSeminole]

Wow Neo looks like your assessment that he was ' soft and doughy ' is wrong and ignorant

I really don't give a shit that you think my assessment is wrong. Unlike you, I have 2 eyes and a brain that works. I can see for myself that Dorian's conditioning was over-hyped. There's no medical explanation for why a man who supposedly achieved the best conditioning of all-time had such piss poor definition in his delts, arms, pecs, glutes, quads, and hamstrings - none.

I know. I know. You think you know more than me b/c you read what some journalist wrote (what was his major again?) even though I have a 4 yr degree in Exercise Physiology, have spent over 150 hrs volunteering in hospitals and clinics, and I'm a certified personal trainer. I guarantee I know more about the human body than you ever will.

[NeoSeminole]

lmfao you post a slanted pic comparison where Dorian is at the far end that proved ZERO other than your desperation and ironically that is exactly the contest the IFBB judge was referring to , but I'm sure you would know more than him who was there live and in the flesh you accomplished nothing with this , absolutely nothing

I posted 3 different pics, you dumbass. The other 2 are straight on. So you have no excuses. Funny enough, Dorian is getting punked in both of them and you chose to ignore these.

What does this have to do with anything? Neo another dumb paragraph that has NOTHING to do with what I said lol what the fuck?

it has everything to do with your comment b/c Shawn Ray is saying the exact opposite of what you posted. Here it is for you to read again.

"Ridiculous" Ronnie Coleman would win his 6th Sandow Trophy in a row looking absolutely ridiculous! This guy was from another planet! Ronnie added about a million pounds of muscle from the previous year and squashed the competition on sheer MASS! Unbelievable is what Ronnie was this night!"

yet according to you, the same guy also said Ronnie couldn't dwarf a 225 lbs Dexter.

[suckmymuscle]

Separations and Striations and vascularity , Ronnie ( like shape ) had advantage in separations in some areas NOT all thats just a blanket statement

  I have to disagree here. I do believe that Ronnie had more separations overral - not at the 2003 Olympia, though. Sure, Dorian had more separations in some areas over Ronnie, but I think that Ronnie at the 1998 Olympia had more overral separations than Dorian. The reason for this is that Ronnie has truly amazing genetics for separations. Both at 3% bodyfat and dry, Ronnie is more separated.

  My beef with the Coleman fans is that they focus on one aspect of conditioning that can be measured(separations and striations) and completely ignore the marble look that Dorian had, while Ronnie~s muscles, as incredibley separated as they were, still looked like ordinary Human flesh.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[delta9mda]

regarding 96 yates, here is the 96 uk gp yates posing. kiss my ass bitches and haters.

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[England_1]

regarding 96 yates, here is the 96 uk gp yates posing. kiss my ass bitches and haters.

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fucking INSANE....Coleman never looked that good.

[suckmymuscle]

blah blah, more excuses. Tanning oil and stage lighting has a way of making bodybuilders look softer and watery. I think most people would agree that bodybuilders look most impressive in the gym a couple of weeks pre-contest.

  SemenHole, this is the most ridiculously stupid thing you've ever said, bar none - not a mean feat, considering your track record. Stage lighting and oil makes one look more impressive, and this is exactly the reason why bodybuilders oil up and why the lights are adjusted that way. Duh! I woudln~t post in thsi thread again if I were you.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

I really don't give a shit that you think my assessment is wrong. Unlike you, I have 2 eyes and a brain that works. I can see for myself that Dorian's conditioning was over-hyped. There's no medical explanation for why a man who supposedly achieved the best conditioning of all-time had such piss poor definition in his delts, arms, pecs, glutes, quads, and hamstrings - none.

I know. I know. You think you know more than me b/c you read what some journalist wrote (what was his major again?) even though I have a 4 yr degree in Exercise Physiology, have spent over 150 hrs volunteering in hospitals and clinics, and I'm a certified personal trainer. I guarantee I know more about the human body than you ever will.

I really don't give a shit that you think my assessment is wrong. Unlike you, I have 2 eyes and a brain that works. I can see for myself that Dorian's conditioning was over-hyped. There's no medical explanation for why a man who supposedly achieved the best conditioning of all-time had such piss poor definition in his delts, arms, pecs, glutes, quads, and hamstrings - none.

meltdown 

Oh I don't think your assessment is wrong I know it's wrong a bit of a difference  and Dorian's conditioning wasn't ' over-hyped ' it's legendary you're arguing with bodybuilding history on this topic sport and you're basing your opinion on an inaccurate means pictures and video and thats it and ontop of that inaccurate means you're ignorant on what to look for to begin with , so much for your analysis

I know. I know. You think you know more than me b/c you read what some journalist wrote (what was his major again?) even though I have a 4 yr degree in Exercise Physiology, have spent over 150 hrs volunteering in hospitals and clinics, and I'm a certified personal trainer. I guarantee I know more about the human body than you ever will.

meltdown

especially when you're trying to impress me with some internet-resume lol and what does your ' 4 yr degree in Exercise Physiology ' have to do with Dorian's conditioning? what does it have to do with your claim he's ' doughy ' ? did they teach competitive bodybuilding conditioning 101 when you got this ' degree ' ? maybe you were out the day they taught about ' muscle density ' ? and wow 150 hours volunteering in hospitals and clinics lol what does that have to do with competitive bodybuilding conditioning? and here is the real show stopper lol ' I'm a certified personal trainer ' fuck me why didn't you say that in the first place? because if I would have known you were a ' certified personal trainer ' that makes a world of difference  does this mean you're privy to some secret information about Dorian really being soft and his conditioning ' over-hyped '  ?

oh and here's the best ' I guarantee I know more about the human body than you ever will.' you're the same guy who claimed Dorian's grainy appearance was due to acne , the same guy who thought balance & proportion were the same thing , the same guy who thinks symmetry in bodybuilding is left/right exactness , the same guy same guy who accused me of making of definitions to words  and thats just the nonsense I can think of off the top of my head , your resume doesn't impress me and has NOTHING what so ever to do with Dorian's Yates conditioning , you may know how to tell ignorant people what the Hammer Strength does, but  you're very ignorant of competitive bodybuilding this has been demonstrated countless times by me and by people who were there

so please continue trying to impress me this example failed 

[NarcissisticDeity]

I posted 3 different pics, you dumbass. The other 2 are straight on. So you have no excuses. Funny enough, Dorian is getting punked in both of them and you chose to ignore these.

it has everything to do with your comment b/c Shawn Ray is saying the exact opposite of what you posted. Here it is for you to read again.

"Ridiculous" Ronnie Coleman would win his 6th Sandow Trophy in a row looking absolutely ridiculous! This guy was from another planet! Ronnie added about a million pounds of muscle from the previous year and squashed the competition on sheer MASS! Unbelievable is what Ronnie was this night!"

yet according to you, the same guy also said Ronnie couldn't dwarf a 225 lbs Dexter.

I posted 3 different pics, you dumbass. The other 2 are straight on. So you have no excuses. Funny enough, Dorian is getting punked in both of them and you chose to ignore these.

Again you're contradicting a judge who was there , now who are we to believe? Neo or Roger Schwabb? hey wait you are a ' certified personal trainer ' lol

it has everything to do with your comment b/c Shawn Ray is saying the exact opposite of what you posted. Here it is for you to read again.

"Ridiculous" Ronnie Coleman would win his 6th Sandow Trophy in a row looking absolutely ridiculous! This guy was from another planet! Ronnie added about a million pounds of muscle from the previous year and squashed the competition on sheer MASS! Unbelievable is what Ronnie was this night!"

yet according to you, the same guy also said Ronnie couldn't dwarf a 225 lbs Dexter.

No , you're wrong it doesn't say the exact opposite , where does it say , Dexter didn't look like he was giving up 70 pounds in certain poses to Ronnie ? where its stating the obvious Ronnie won on size alone , not conditioning and size , not balance & proportion , on sheer mass and that may have worked on his competition but his competition isn't Dorian Yates , again Ronnie 2003 isn't dwarfing Dorian at 269 pounds only in your ' comparisons ' and fantasy

[NarcissisticDeity]

  SemenHole, this is the most ridiculously stupid thing you've ever said, bar none - not a mean feat, considering your track record. Stage lighting and oil makes one look more impressive, and this is exactly the reason why bodybuilders oil up and why the lights are adjusted that way. Duh! I woudln~t post in thsi thread again if I were you.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

hey he knows something we don't he has secret information they teach only to " Certified Personal Trainers " lol I mean getting tanned and applying oil and having a professional guy come in to set up lighting actually makes guys look worse they teach you that as well as Density = doughy when you're a " Certified Personal Trainer "

[Matt C]

hey he knows something we don't he has secret information they teach only to " Certified Personal Trainers " lol I mean getting tanned and applying oil and having a professional guy come in to set up lighting actually makes guys look worse they teach you that as well as Density = doughy when you're a " Certified Personal Trainer "

Ronnie is better.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Flex, the man himself admitting he knew he didn't win:

1998 Mr. Olympia

"JM: When they announced you in second place, what went through your head?"

"FW:You know honestly I knew that I didn't win. I knew I didn't win after the prejudging because I sit down and I talk to everybody that I talk to. Obviously I couldn't show them what they wanted to see."

If you still have doubts, take it up with Flex and he will let you know.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hulkster, you're dealing with a couple of morons who are just straight up biased. ND and idiots, posts this shit because of their hate for Ronnie. I can't blame them for hating Ronnie when he owns their hero day in and day out. LOL. Truly pathetic on their part.

Shawn Ray on Ronnie 1998

Ronnie Coleman was the most improved bodybuilder , and they should have an award for that but it SHOULDN'T be the overall title. Ronnie Coleman won the Mr Olympia for making the most improvement.

Ronnie does NOT have the complete physique. He has a certain degree of shape and detail but , let's be honest , he has a lot of weaknesses : calves , hamstrings , midsection. He has flaws on his physique that you just can't find on my physique or Flex Wheeler's physique.

Did they even count the posing routine? Ronnie Coleman is never going to be remembered for a posing routine.


Shawn stating the obvious , Ronnie was very lucky in 1998 , lucky Flexes glutes & hams weren't as sharp as Ronnies , lucky the judged didn't go with Flex just based on name , lucky Flex was so lackadasical in his training

quote Flex magazine Jan 1999

When Ronnie is 100% , Flex has to be 100% to prevail. On October 10 , 1998 , Flex wasn't and Ronnie was.

again lucky Flex was off and he was on

Flex Wheeler

It's true I didn't quite duplicate my condition at the Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. if I'd been able to do that , I would have won EASILY !!

Flex stating the obvious

Jon Hotten Muscle :
[Coleman's 1998 Olympia victory] was not a definitive win. In 99, Big Ron was lucky to defeat Flex Wheeler again. Levrone thought he'd beaten him twice, in 2000 and 2002. At the 2002 show, Levrone had won both of the evening rounds (a year on, at the Olympia press conference before the 2003 show, Coleman would chide Levrone, asking him, 'When was the last time you beat me?' Levrone replied, 'Last year.'). In 2001, Jay Cutler beat Ronnie in both the first two rounds and lost by four points.

See a pattern here? Ronnie Coleman was lucky in 1998 it has nothing to do with bias its common knowledge 

I hope this helps

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ronnie is better.................. .................at losing

I agree 

[Matt C]

and when I'm done on-line I'm going to give my g/f the gift thta keeps on giving 

LOL!!!!!!!!!

[Iceman1981]

Shawn Ray on Ronnie 1998

Ronnie Coleman was the most improved bodybuilder , and they should have an award for that but it SHOULDN'T be the overall title. Ronnie Coleman won the Mr Olympia for making the most improvement.

Ronnie does NOT have the complete physique. He has a certain degree of shape and detail but , let's be honest , he has a lot of weaknesses : calves , hamstrings , midsection. He has flaws on his physique that you just can't find on my physique or Flex Wheeler's physique.

Did they even count the posing routine? Ronnie Coleman is never going to be remembered for a posing routine.


Shawn stating the obvious , Ronnie was very lucky in 1998 , lucky Flexes glutes & hams weren't as sharp as Ronnies , lucky the judged didn't go with Flex just based on name , lucky Flex was so lackadasical in his training

quote Flex magazine Jan 1999

When Ronnie is 100% , Flex has to be 100% to prevail. On October 10 , 1998 , Flex wasn't and Ronnie was.

again lucky Flex was off and he was on

Flex Wheeler

It's true I didn't quite duplicate my condition at the Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. if I'd been able to do that , I would have won EASILY !!

Flex stating the obvious

Jon Hotten Muscle :
[Coleman's 1998 Olympia victory] was not a definitive win. In 99, Big Ron was lucky to defeat Flex Wheeler again. Levrone thought he'd beaten him twice, in 2000 and 2002. At the 2002 show, Levrone had won both of the evening rounds (a year on, at the Olympia press conference before the 2003 show, Coleman would chide Levrone, asking him, 'When was the last time you beat me?' Levrone replied, 'Last year.'). In 2001, Jay Cutler beat Ronnie in both the first two rounds and lost by four points.

See a pattern here? Ronnie Coleman was lucky in 1998 it has nothing to do with bias its common knowledge 

I hope this helps

Well, Flex is the only one to blame for not coming in with his 93 ASC condition, not Ronnie. Shawn got his ass handed to him at the 98 Mr. Olympia by not even placing top 3. All of that you just typed and still can't prove anything. I quoted from Flex himself. It can't get any better than that. So stop trying to make up excuses. It's getting kind of played out. Don't you think?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Well, Flex is the only one to blame for not coming in with his 93 ASC condition, not Ronnie. Shawn got his ass handed to him at the 98 Mr. Olympia by not even placing top 3. All of that you just typed and still can't prove anything. I quoted from Flex himself. It can't get any better than that. So stop trying to make up excuses. It's getting kind of played out. Don't you think?

Again you people are under this delusion Ronnie was unbeatable in 1998 no he was LUCKY and not its not Ronnie's fault Flex didn't come in dialed in he still had to come in looking great which he did but make no mistake Flex is a guy who routinely beat Ronnie even less than stellar it was a close contest one of the closest in Mr Olympia history and this proves my case , you're left with nothing as usual .

Ronnie 1998 was lucky , lucky Flex was off , lucky Flex turned him onto The Chad and Lucky the judges didn't go with Flex because of all the hype , you can't argue to the contrary its a fact.

[RocketSwitch625]

Consider the source, someone sporting an H-taper LOL

Does it make you feel better to know that a guy who has never taken steroids has a H-taper when your pro bodybuilding hero has one of the worst guts in the history of the sport? That must really make you feel better. LOL

[Camel Jockey]

Where's Dorian's bicep?

[RocketSwitch625]

Where's Dorian's bicep?

I have another question. Why doesn't Nasser get back in line?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Where's Dorian's bicep?

Hmmm lets see one bicep shorter than another or hey wait a minute where is Nasser's back? 

[Camel Jockey]

His back looks fine, and his biceps actually show during the rear double biceps shot. Dorian's biceps vanish like a cloak of invisibility.. hahahaha

[England_1]

Nasser has a ghetto booty there (as usual) 

[NarcissisticDeity]

His back looks fine, and his biceps actually show during the rear double biceps shot. Dorian's biceps vanish like a cloak of invisibility.. hahahaha

His back looks fine lol sure for a watery bloated mess it looks fine lol he failed the diuretics test and he's still holding a ton of water 

[pumpster]

Holy crap batman *another* Yates-getting-pummeled thread LOL 

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=183814.0