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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37475 on: November 30, 2007, 06:44:08 PM »
Nasser has a ghetto booty there (as usual)  :-X

Pasty white racist comments as per usual. ::)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37476 on: November 30, 2007, 06:45:57 PM »
Pasty white racist comments as per usual. ::)

You would know about racist comments , wouldn't you? tried in insinuate because Lee Priest was from Austrialia he was racist  ::)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37477 on: November 30, 2007, 08:41:36 PM »
meltdown

uh, no. A meltdown would consist of me typing in an obnoxious font and cursing you out. I did neither of the 2.

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Oh I don't think your assessment is wrong I know it's wrong a bit of a difference and Dorian's conditioning wasn't ' over-hyped ' it's legendary you're arguing with bodybuilding history on this topic sport and you're basing your opinion on an inaccurate means pictures and video and thats it and ontop of that inaccurate means you're ignorant on what to look for to begin with , so much for your analysis

so now you're a bodybuilding expert? Get real. You're an internet nobody who probably jacks off to magazine scans on your computer. If you were such an 'expert,' then how come just about every bodybuilding writer and IFBB pro disagrees with your assessment that Dorian would beat Ronnie? ;)

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especially when you're trying to impress me with some internet-resume lol and what does your ' 4 yr degree in Exercise Physiology ' have to do with Dorian's conditioning? what does it have to do with your claim he's ' doughy ' ? did they teach competitive bodybuilding conditioning 101 when you got this ' degree ' ? maybe you were out the day they taught about ' muscle density ' ? and wow 150 hours volunteering in hospitals and clinics lol what does that have to do with competitive bodybuilding conditioning? and here is the real show stopper lol ' I'm a certified personal trainer ' fuck me why didn't you say that in the first place? because if I would have known you were a ' certified personal trainer ' that makes a world of difference does this mean you're privy to some secret information about Dorian really being soft and his conditioning ' over-hyped '

the reason I listed my credentials is b/c my word carries more weight than yours. You don't even have so much as a picture to your name. For all we know, you're some pencil necked geek whose lust for blocky white muscle men blinds him to reality.

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oh and here's the best ' I guarantee I know more about the human body than you ever will.' you're the same guy who claimed Dorian's grainy appearance was due to acne

b/c it was. Define to me what "grainy" means. Last time I checked, it referred to the texture of the skin looking covered in bumps. I don't see how I'm wrong about Dorian's acne contributing to his grainy look.







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the same guy who thinks symmetry in bodybuilding is left/right exactness

I hope you're ready to get owned. ;)

Dorian Yates - Flex, October 2006

"I guess it's time for me, one of the most "unaesthetic" bodybuilders in history, to give you a short course in the true meaning of the terminology of aesthetics. Symmetry means one side is shaped the same as the other side--its mirror image."

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_8_24/ai_n16754510

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37478 on: November 30, 2007, 10:41:59 PM »
Pasty white racist comments as per usual. ::)

So says GetBig's resident racist  :-\ :-*
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37479 on: November 30, 2007, 10:53:03 PM »
i've said it once and i'll say it again flex was winning the 98 mr o after pre judging, i dont know how ronnie ended up winning (but i'm sure there would have been some money changing hands). Ronnie should not have won in 98 end of story...
everyone on this thread agreed that ronnie in 2003 was massive, but didn't have dorians condition...
DORIAN BEATS 2003 RONNIE ( actually dorian beats any version of ronnie)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37480 on: November 30, 2007, 10:58:08 PM »
Does ND think that Dorian looks better than Shawn in this pose, in terms of overall beauty of the physique?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37481 on: November 30, 2007, 11:02:07 PM »
Does ND think that Dorian looks better than Shawn in this pose, in terms of overall beauty of the physique?



Dorian never had the most aesthetic or "prettiest" physique on stage. But he had the BEST physique on stage. The most complete and conditioned physique on stage, despite what any of the cronies will tell you. Why do you think the crowd went nuts went Yates appeared on stage, air horns popping off left and right  ;)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37482 on: December 01, 2007, 12:34:32 AM »
But in the above photo his arms are real bad you must admit

Dorian never had the most aesthetic or "prettiest" absolutely true! But that is more IFBB judging and probably not a reflection of what most people here think, i know if i had my way mr ray would be first place, then El Sonbaty and Dorian 3rd. The arms are just too important to be ignored---whats worse one is injured! monster fair judging

 



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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37483 on: December 01, 2007, 03:29:13 AM »
Where's Dorian's bicep?


Surgically removed and added to the obliques.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37484 on: December 01, 2007, 03:31:16 AM »
mr ray would be first place, then El Sonbaty and Dorian 3rd. The arms are just too important to be ignored---whats worse one is injured! monster fair judging
 

Don't forget "the grainy look". :-\

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37485 on: December 01, 2007, 03:44:46 AM »
Rapidly deteriorating into the "christ Yates looks like shyte" thread bwhahaahahahahaahaha

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37486 on: December 01, 2007, 06:41:30 AM »
uh, no. A meltdown would consist of me typing in an obnoxious font and cursing you out. I did neither of the 2.

so now you're a bodybuilding expert? Get real. You're an internet nobody who probably jacks off to magazine scans on your computer. If you were such an 'expert,' then how come just about every bodybuilding writer and IFBB pro disagrees with your assessment that Dorian would beat Ronnie? ;)

the reason I listed my credentials is b/c my word carries more weight than yours. You don't even have so much as a picture to your name. For all we know, you're some pencil necked geek whose lust for blocky white muscle men blinds him to reality.

b/c it was. Define to me what "grainy" means. Last time I checked, it referred to the texture of the skin looking covered in bumps. I don't see how I'm wrong about Dorian's acne contributing to his grainy look.
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I hope you're ready to get owned. ;)

Dorian Yates - Flex, October 2006

"I guess it's time for me, one of the most "unaesthetic" bodybuilders in history, to give you a short course in the true meaning of the terminology of aesthetics. Symmetry means one side is shaped the same as the other side--its mirror image."

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_8_24/ai_n16754510


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uh, no. A meltdown would consist of me typing in an obnoxious font and cursing you out. I did neither of the 2.

Sorry sport I beg to differ , when you're reduced to saying Dorian's conditioning was ' over-hyped ' soley basing it on an inaccurate means pics & video knowing full well the general consensus is he looks ' light years ' ahead of what he does in person than pics & video and his conditioning is legendary to say it ' over-hyped ' is a meltdown statement period , you're arguing with bodybuilding history

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so now you're a bodybuilding expert? Get real. You're an internet nobody who probably jacks off to magazine scans on your computer. If you were such an 'expert,' then how come just about every bodybuilding writer and IFBB pro disagrees with your assessment that Dorian would beat Ronnie? ;)

I don't think I ever claimed to being an expert , although its painfully obvious I know more than you , and stop projecting your homoerotic fantasies about masterbating to muscle men on me another pathetic attempt at a personal attack because you're getting frustrated , whats next to call me a " dirt Mexican ' ? now to address your claim that almost ' every bodybuilding writer and IFBB pro disagrees ' with me where should I begin?

lets see you certainly speak for almost every expert huh? most of the quotes you posted were all right after the 2003 Olympia and most pertained to that contest , they've all been addressed , now there are many people who believe Ronnie is unbeatable and would beat Dorian however what does that mean? See the argument ad populum which states just because a opinion is popular doesn't mean its a fact or right , especially on such a subjective subject matter , most thing 2003 was Ronnie's best Olympia does it mean it was? he doesn't think so so is he wrong? and I forgot you're a " Certified Personal Trainer " hence you are privy to information the rest of lay-people aren't lol

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the reason I listed my credentials is b/c my word carries more weight than yours. You don't even have so much as a picture to your name. For all we know, you're some pencil necked geek whose lust for blocky white muscle men blinds him to reality.

You have a meltdown and thats exactly why you listed your ' credentials ' lol you think this carries any weight? it has absolutely NOTHING to do with my argument . I entertained your point of view and then saw how lacking it was and then you made leaps into absurdity with your claims and you exposed for being ignorant and thats not a bad thing , we're all ignorant until we learn you just haven't learned lol and refuse to , and I see a trend here when you get frustrated you lash out with some homosexual reference what would Freud say?  ;) and I don't have a picture because I don't need to impress anyone , as you have read in my posts I'm not prone to bragging about anything , not how much I left , how I look , how much money I make , how many square feet my house is , its just not my style . I don't need anyone acceptance or praise , and maybe I am some pencil necked geek ( who uses that phrase anymore? ) maybe I'm not  ;) either way I still know more than you and your " Certified Personal Trainer " certificate when it comes to competitive bodybuilding

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b/c it was. Define to me what "grainy" means. Last time I checked, it referred to the texture of the skin looking covered in bumps. I don't see how I'm wrong about Dorian's acne contributing to his grainy look

To be honest with you I don't even know what ' grainy ' means and its extremely rare you see me post that word about Dorian's conditioning , it's always bone dry & rock hard , I think it has to due with his skin obviously , which is fair and the way it appears at some times. I know another fair skin bodybuilder people use to refer to as ' grainy ' was Ken Waller but I'm almost positive its not due to ' acne ' thats just a absurd explanation and Dorian was considered ' grainy ' well after that Olympia when he had no acne

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I hope you're ready to get owned. ;)

Dorian Yates - Flex, October 2006

"I guess it's time for me, one of the most "unaesthetic" bodybuilders in history, to give you a short course in the true meaning of the terminology of aesthetics. Symmetry means one side is shaped the same as the other side--its mirror image."

Oh wow you really owned me there  ::) old article I read that eons ago , again thats just one part of the word symmetry and FYI sport NOTHING in nature is truly symmetrical , that would mean you could take a photo and fold it in half and both sides would be exactly the same and thats not going to happen , again you're so desperate to try and ' own ' me you'll look beyond reality , and the reality in bodybuilding symmetry has many meanings HENCE why you get conflicting explanations its a board term and encompasses many meanings again here is the Bodybuilding.com definition which is exactly why Lee Priest said Ronnie's symmetry was better than Dorians

Symmetry - The shape or general outline of a person's body, as when seen in silhouette. If you have good sym-metry, you will have relatively wide shoulders, flaring lats, a small waist-hip structure, and generally small joints.

This is ( pay attention ) part of the word symmetry and its exactly why Flex is considered the " Sultan of Symmetry " because of his small waist & hips , tiny joints , not because his left & right side are exact and certainly not because he has great balance

Now this is the other part of symmetry

Bev Francis : Bodybuilder's phsyique you most admire ?

The man Dorian Yates , his combonation of size and shape makes for an awesome physique , unlike a lot of big guys he's not a load of massive parts just thrown together , His symmetry is almost perfect , Everything is in proportion , no weak bodyparts .


Notice how an IFBB judge is commenting on Dorian's ' almost perfect ' symmetry and we sure as fuck know it isn't because his left & right match up perfectly because even pre-tear Dorian's left/right biceps didn't look exact NO in this meaning of the word , she's referring to his great balance & proportion between each muscle group and you ever wonder why and how Dorian won every single ' symmetry round ' ? even against Flex Wheeler? and Lee Labrada? its not because his left/right matched up better

So again if you think symmetry only means left/right exactness you're fucked because you have an IFBB judge talking about how near " perfect " Dorian symmetry was , so you didn't own anyone , nice try though  ::)


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37487 on: December 01, 2007, 06:43:29 AM »
Does ND think that Dorian looks better than Shawn in this pose, in terms of overall beauty of the physique?



stop being contrary of course I don't but again you keep mistaking Yates for someone who won because his physique was aesthetic , he won on his strengths not anyone else.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37488 on: December 01, 2007, 07:06:40 AM »
stop being contrary of course I don't but again you keep mistaking Yates for someone who won because his physique was aesthetic , he won on his strengths not anyone else.

thats the problem of course.

the fact that he was compared to everyone else, owned a lot of the time, and still received perfect scores should tell you a whole lot.

but it doesn't because you don't understand the judging system and are biased.

plain and simple.

everyone else is a lot smarter than that.. :-\
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37489 on: December 01, 2007, 07:11:48 AM »
thats the problem of course.

the fact that he was compared to everyone else, owned a lot of the time, and still received perfect scores should tell you a whole lot.

but it doesn't because you don't understand the judging system and are biased.

plain and simple.

everyone else is a lot smarter than that.. :-\

And the excuse makers are out in full force lol I'll tell you exactly why Dorian won even when he was torn because he was still the biggest and densest bodybuilder onstage

Density - Muscle hardness, which is also related to muscu-lar definition. A bodybuilder can be well-defined and still have excess fat within each major muscle complex. But when he has muscle density, even this intramuscular fat has been eliminated. A combination of muscle mass and muscle density is highly prized among all competitive bodybuilders.

Thats exactly why he won with perfect scores kid , learn this , commit to memory and get over it .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37490 on: December 01, 2007, 07:22:10 AM »
LOL what the fuck does the definition of density have to do with mitigating the fact that dorian gets owned all the time and doesn't get scored down for it.. ::)

like I said, you have no idea how to defend a position at all..

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37491 on: December 01, 2007, 07:26:21 AM »
LOL what the fuck does the definition of density have to do with mitigating the fact that dorian gets owned all the time and doesn't get scored down for it.. ::)

like I said, you have no idea how to defend a position at all..

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Oh not its not like Dorian had a clear advantage over all of his competition in SIZE AND DENSITY  ::)

again he's not getting owned it your imagination Dorian's strengths in these two areas bailed his ass out in 96/97 hence why the perfect scores and hence why Coleman when he looked like shit was always fighting for his life on the scorecards

my point is proven , you just don't like it.  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37492 on: December 01, 2007, 07:33:40 AM »
Now just imagine an injury free Dorian Yates at 269 pounds with unrivaled size & density that extreme dryness that ' near perfect ' symmetry complete from head to toe not lacking in any area against a 257 pound Ronnie who's not as dry or hard with injected calves and a bunch of parts just tossed together lol Ronnie would get his ass handed to him on a silver platter

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37493 on: December 01, 2007, 07:35:00 AM »
Anyone who thinks Ronnie ANY year could beat this is just ignorant on how bodybuilding contests are judged .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37494 on: December 01, 2007, 07:47:05 AM »
Anyone who thinks Ronnie ANY year could beat this is just ignorant on how bodybuilding contests are judged .

yeah, sure.. ::)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37495 on: December 01, 2007, 07:51:38 AM »
99 ronnie would do the same, easily:

I still can't believe you are making such a stupid and silly argument that a bloated smooth 269 pound dorian could beat a super ripped and dry 257 pound Ronnie..

LOL

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37496 on: December 01, 2007, 08:45:11 AM »
yeah, sure.. ::)

That tiny mix-matched collection of parts can't touch Yates lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37497 on: December 01, 2007, 08:49:37 AM »
99 ronnie would do the same, easily:

I still can't believe you are making such a stupid and silly argument that a bloated smooth 269 pound dorian could beat a super ripped and dry 257 pound Ronnie..

LOL

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lmfao you were crushed when that footage was posted and now you've been further reduced to posting blow-up pic of Yates sick back double biceps shot to distort the quality to supposedly prove a point , and I thought you stopped using photoshopped pics? well fear not Hulkster I have better shots  ;)  I love how you been reduced to using blanket statements lol Ronnie 99 was easily beat Yates in what? spare us the detail and taper nonsense

try density , size , balance & proportion , completness and posing he's no where near Yates in any of those.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37498 on: December 01, 2007, 08:55:25 AM »
Proof Hulkster is deathly afraid of great shots of Dorian  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37499 on: December 01, 2007, 08:56:38 AM »
Proof Hulkster's been either photoshopping pics or has someone do it for him ,  so the quality suffers , you haven't learned have you?