Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Hulkster]

LOL ND posts shots of dorian showing piss poor arms, devoid of cuts and detail, piss poor quads, smooth back etc.

and thinks they are good compared to the amazingly striated and ripped, shapely and huge Ronnie LOL

ND, why is it that you do nothing but post the same pics over again, when they have already been pointed out as being sub par compared to Ronnie?:

 

if you can't see the difference in shape, quality, detail etc. between these shots, I don't know what else anyone can do for you:

 

[Hulkster]

Proof Hulkster's been either photoshopping pics or has someone do it for him ,  so the quality suffers , you haven't learned have you?

I took that shot directly from the original thread dumbass.

boy, you are really leaning on this photoshopping stuff as the only way that dorian can be better, aren't you?

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL ND posts shots of dorian showing piss poor arms, devoid of cuts and detail, piss poor quads, smooth back etc.

and thinks they are good compared to the amazingly striated and ripped, shapely and huge Ronnie LOL

ND, why is it that you do nothing but post the same pics over again, when they have already been pointed out as being sub par compared to Ronnie?:

 

if you can't see the difference in shape, quality, detail etc. between these shots, I don't know what else anyone can do for you:

 

LMFAO the difference is one is a professional studio shot compared to some gym shots , the difference is tan , posing oil , and professional lighting lmmfao the difference is Dorian despite all that crushes your little Ronnie hence why you keep posting photoshopped pics because you need to . again DENSITY , CONDITIONING , BALANCE & PROPORTION , SIZE , COMPLETENESS Oh and POSING Ronnie is doing zero to Yates 269

I hope this helps.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I took that shot directly from the original thread dumbass.

boy, you are really leaning on this photoshopping stuff as the only way that dorian can be better, aren't you?

 

No I just posted the ORIGINAL I was the first to post the screencaps , so don't act like you didn't have the original and the b&w pic you keep posting these worked shots for a reason because you're so desperate , and you're busted  ( again )

you're sad kid , this is how you think the game is played

[NeoSeminole]

Sorry sport I beg to differ , when you're reduced to saying Dorian's conditioning was ' over-hyped ' soley basing it on an inaccurate means pics & video knowing full well the general consensus is he looks ' light years ' ahead of what he does in person than pics & video and his conditioning is legendary to say it ' over-hyped ' is a meltdown statement period , you're arguing with bodybuilding history

sorry sport but when all the visual evidence supports my position, then I'm not having a meltdown by claiming Dorian's conditioning was over-hyped. Was it good? Yes. Was it the best ever? No.

I don't think I ever claimed to being an expert , although its painfully obvious I know more than you , and stop projecting your homoerotic fantasies about masterbating to muscle men on me another pathetic attempt at a personal attack because you're getting frustrated , whats next to call me a " dirt Mexican ' ? now to address your claim that almost ' every bodybuilding writer and IFBB pro disagrees ' with me where should I begin?

on the contrary, it's brutally obvious you don't know shit. I've posted numerous quotes from bodybuilding experts who all disagree with you. So much for your claim that you know more than me.

You have a meltdown and thats exactly why you listed your ' credentials ' lol you think this carries any weight? it has absolutely NOTHING to do with my argument . I entertained your point of view and then saw how lacking it was and then you made leaps into absurdity with your claims and you exposed for being ignorant and thats not a bad thing , we're all ignorant until we learn you just haven't learned lol and refuse to , and I see a trend here when you get frustrated you lash out with some homosexual reference what would Freud say? and I don't have a picture because I don't need to impress anyone , as you have read in my posts I'm not prone to bragging about anything , not how much I left , how I look , how much money I make , how many square feet my house is , its just not my style . I don't need anyone acceptance or praise , and maybe I am some pencil necked geek ( who uses that phrase anymore? ) maybe I'm not either way I still know more than you and your " Certified Personal Trainer " certificate when it comes to competitive bodybuilding

face it kid, you've got nothing. Just b/c you've been scanning magazine pics for years doesn't make you knowledgable on bodybuilding. I have credentials to my name.

Oh wow you really owned me there old article I read that eons ago , again thats just one part of the word symmetry and FYI sport NOTHING in nature is truly symmetrical , that would mean you could take a photo and fold it in half and both sides would be exactly the same and thats not going to happen , again you're so desperate to try and ' own ' me you'll look beyond reality , and the reality in bodybuilding symmetry has many meanings HENCE why you get conflicting explanations its a board term and encompasses many meanings again here is the Bodybuilding.com definition which is exactly why Lee Priest said Ronnie's symmetry was better than Dorians

I posted Dorian's own words on what symmetry in bodybuilding means. If you have a disagreement, I suggest you take it up with him.

[NarcissisticDeity]

sorry sport but when all the visual evidence supports my position, then I'm not having a meltdown by claiming Dorian's conditioning was over-hyped. Was it good? Yes. Was it the best ever? No.

on the contrary, it's brutally obvious you don't know shit. I've posted numerous quotes from bodybuilding experts who all disagree with you. So much for your claim that you know more than me.

face it kid, you've got nothing. Just b/c you've been scanning magazine pics for years doesn't make you knowledgable on bodybuilding. I have credentials to my name.

I posted Dorian's own words on what symmetry in bodybuilding means. If you have a disagreement, I suggest you take it up with him.

sorry sport but when all the visual evidence supports my position, then I'm not having a meltdown by claiming Dorian's conditioning was over-hyped. Was it good? Yes. Was it the best ever? No.

When an inaccurate means and an ignorant opinion support your position that contradicts bodybuilding history its most certainly if a meltdown lol absolutely lol I love that ' over-hyped ' you're to stupid to look past what YOU think is great conditioning

on the contrary, it's brutally obvious you don't know shit. I've posted numerous quotes from bodybuilding experts who all disagree with you. So much for your claim that you know more than me.

Oh yeah I don't know shit lol coming for you that carries no weight , its obvious I knew balance & proportion are two separate entities , you didn't , that symmetry is not only small waist & hips and tiny joints , its also great balance & proportion , in thinking Ronnie 2003 was his prime shape ,  I mean again you've exposed yourself for being ignorant of how competitive bodybuilding is judged and its okay you're ignorant but when you're soundly proven wrong you're to stupid to see the error of your ways and again , you have a few people who agree with your point of view again ( pay attention ) it doesn't mean its right , just popular 

face it kid, you've got nothing. Just b/c you've been scanning magazine pics for years doesn't make you knowledgable on bodybuilding. I have credentials to my name.

Oh I've done more than that , I've been involved in bodybuilding before you were born  , before the internet when the only source for information was magazine and books on the subject and I have most of the books on the topic , and read them many time over . The sad part is you've been reduced to giving your ' credentials ' on an internet message board lol thats just pathetic lol it really is lol I know more about competitive bodybuilding than you because " I'm a Certified Personal Trainer " best line you ever typed lol were you out the day they thought balance & proportion in " Certified Personal Trainer " school? or how about density & conditioning? did you pass those classes? 4 years of your life and you still don't know what the fuck you're talking about LMFAO I'd get a lawyer and sue you've been fleeced

I posted Dorian's own words on what symmetry in bodybuilding means. If you have a disagreement, I suggest you take it up with him.

I don't have a problem with it , you do. you think thats the ONLY definition of a broad word in the context of bodybuilding , I suggest you heed your own advice and if you have a problem with the word symmetry you take it up with Bev Francis who critiqued Dorian's physique and said its ' near perfect ' so I guess that means his left & right are exactly the same? lol

Neo you played yourself when you bragged about being a " Certified Personal Trainer " lol and you actually thought for a single moment anyone would be impressed by that and it carried any weight lol

[NeoSeminole]

When an inaccurate means and an ignorant opinion support your position that contradicts bodybuilding history its most certainly if a meltdown lol absolutely lol I love that ' over-hyped ' you're to stupid to look past what YOU think is great conditioning

ha ha ha, how lame. You've been reduced to nothing. So now you're grasping at straws. Pics and videos do not lie. It may be true they don't capture all the little details you might see in person. However, this applies to most bodybuilders - NOT just Dorian. It's safe to assume that Ronnie too would look better in person. So any advantage Dorian had quickly dissappears when all things are equal.

[pumpster]

Anyone who thinks Ronnie ANY year could beat this is just ignorant on how bodybuilding contests are judged .

How desperate to have to post nothing but gym shots bwahahahahahahhahaha

[England_1]

How desperate to have to post nothing but gym shots bwahahahahahahhahaha

I'm really not sure why you keep posting that shot. Aside from the left bi, it KILLS anything Coleman ever displayed in the front double bi. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

ha ha ha, how lame. You've been reduced to nothing. So now you're grasping at straws. Pics and videos do not lie. It may be true they don't capture all the little details you might see in person. However, this applies to most bodybuilders - NOT just Dorian. It's safe to assume that Ronnie too would look better in person. So any advantage Dorian had quickly dissappears when all things are equal.

You're the one reduced to bragging on an internet message board I'm a " Certified Personal Trainer " there fore I know more about competitive bodybuilding than you  and the point stands your assessment his conditioning is ' over-hyped ' directly contradicts bodybuilding history and its reach by an inaccurate means on top of you being ignorant to what density & conditioning are

And again I've found at least 5 quotes saying Dorian looks light years ahead of the way he does in pics and video and NO it doesn't apply most bodybuilders thats YOUR assumption , I'm sure from a size perspective this applies to most bodybuilders but from the prespective of how one translates specifically to film and video are another and ironically I can find at the least 5 quotes about Yates on this topic specifically and not one for Ronnie gee I wonder why ?

And while on the topic all things are NOT equal , especially 2003 the conditioning is clearly in Yates' favor as is balance & proportion and again neither is posing , so you're back to square one Mr " Certified Personal Trainer "

[NarcissisticDeity]

How desperate to have to post nothing but gym shots bwahahahahahahhahaha

And thats why you keep posting what you think is bad shots of Yates because you fear the gym shots because you know they crush anything Coleman ever came up with.

keep doing what you do troll 

[NeoSeminole]

You're the one reduced to bragging on an internet message board I'm a " Certified Personal Trainer " there fore I know more about competitive bodybuilding than you

learn to read, son. I never said I know more about bodybuilding b/c I'm a personal trainer.

and the point stands your assessment his conditioning is ' over-hyped ' directly contradicts bodybuilding history and its reach by an inaccurate means on top of you being ignorant to what density & conditioning are

I'm going to borrow one of your fav. responses.... argument ad populum. I don't care if Dorian's conditioning is "legendary" b/c it was accepted by the majority of the bodybuilding community. I can see with my own eyes that Dorian wasn't as dry and shredded as 01 ASC Ronnie.

And again I've found at least 5 quotes saying Dorian looks light years ahead of the way he does in pics and video and NO it doesn't apply most bodybuilders thats YOUR assumption , I'm sure from a size perspective this applies to most bodybuilders but from the prespective of how one translates specifically to film and video are another and ironically I can find at the least 5 quotes about Yates on this topic specifically and not one for Ronnie gee I wonder why ?

b/c conditioning was one of Dorian's few strengths. Of course it will garner more attention for him - there wasn't much else to talk about. Ronnie has more strengths which stand out equally, if not more, than Dorian. Notice most of the comments about Ronnie focus on his size? Does that mean Dorian wasn't big either? No.

[NeoSeminole]

And thats why you keep posting what you think is bad shots of Yates because you fear the gym shots because you know they crush anything Coleman ever came up with.

sure.

[NarcissisticDeity]

learn to read, son. I never said I know more about bodybuilding b/c I'm a personal trainer.

I'm going to borrow one of your fav. responses.... argument ad populum. I don't care if Dorian's conditioning is "legendary" b/c it was accepted by the majority of the bodybuilding community. I can see with my own eyes that Dorian wasn't as dry and shredded as 01 ASC Ronnie.

b/c conditioning was one of Dorian's few strengths. Of course it will garner more attention for him - there wasn't much else to talk about. Ronnie has more strengths which stand out equally, if not more, than Dorian. Notice most of the comments about Ronnie focus on his size? Does that mean Dorian wasn't big either? No.

learn to read, son. I never said I know more about bodybuilding b/c I'm a personal trainer.

Sure you did plus your other ' credentials ' lol

I'm going to borrow one of your fav. responses.... argument ad populum. I don't care if Dorian's conditioning is "legendary" b/c it was accepted by the majority of the bodybuilding community. I can see with my own eyes that Dorian wasn't as dry and shredded as 01 ASC Ronnie.

No its not a popular opinion Dorian has great conditioning thats a matter of fact , its been shown many times , this isn't subjective like who's the greatest of all time , and to turn your stupidity against you the man who claimed if you believe anything McGough you have to believe it all , so you being the idiot who made this claim now have to abide by it 

Peter Mcgough

  "These words should not be taken lightly, because no bodybuilder has ever been as hard and dry as the man who won six Sandows."

Oh snap looks like you're fucked , and so much for your own two biased eyes who were in fact never at any of the shows mentioned 

b/c conditioning was one of Dorian's few strengths. Of course it will garner more attention for him - there wasn't much else to talk about. Ronnie has more strengths which stand out equally, if not more, than Dorian. Notice most of the comments about Ronnie focus on his size? Does that mean Dorian wasn't big either? No.

lmfao there wasn't much more to talk about , again you want to be taken seriously and then you type this bullshit it shows your age I beg to differ

Bev Francis : Bodybuilder's phsyique you most admire ?

The man Dorian Yates , his combonation of size and shape makes for an awesome physique , unlike a lot of big guys he's not a load of massive parts just thrown together , His symmetry is almost perfect , Everything is in proportion , no weak bodyparts .

Interview with David Robson

[ Q ] What were some of your better physical qualities as a bodybuilder, do you think?

      Obviously I carried a lot of muscle mass and my trademark was to come into a show in super hard condition. I think my muscles had a certain quality and density from all the years of heavy training that a lot of guys didn't have.


      One thing that I think people underrated me on - it was never really mentioned because of my sheer physical size and condition - was my balance and proportion. Not only from muscle group to muscle group, but from upper body to lower body. My skeletal structure and everything else was there and in good balance.

he had more than conditioning , he had conditioning & density , size and balance & proportion ALL COMBINED thats why he won for years thats why he would beat Ronnie you and Camp-Delusional have yet to counter this argument try as you may .

[NarcissisticDeity]

sure.

No contest slick , sorry , trying following the judging criteria Hulkster oppsss I mean Neo all you guys do is type the same blanket statements

We know for a fact Ronnie's bone dry & rock hard conditioning goes bye bye about 250 pounds
We know for a fact Ronnie's balance & proportion sucks when he's heavier , nevermind in Yates' league
We know for a fact he's incomplete

He has some advantages in that pose but overall how contests are judged ( pay attention please ) when all things are considered Dorian beats Ronnie in the all of the mandatory poses

[NeoSeminole]

Sure you did plus your other ' credentials ' lol

no, I didn't. I said that I know more about the human body than you. You sure are dumb as f*ck.

No its not a popular opinion Dorian has great conditioning thats a matter of fact , its been shown many times , this isn't subjective like who's the greatest of all time , and to turn your stupidity against you the man who claimed if you believe anything McGough you have to believe it all , so you being the idiot who made this claim now have to abide by it

Dorian's "legendary" conditioning was an opinion. Did Peter McGough feel both their glutes and decide who's harder? No. So quit lying out of your ass by saying it's a fact.

[NarcissisticDeity]

no, I didn't. I said that I know more about the human body than you. ha ha ha. You're dumb as f*ck.

Dorian's "legendary" conditioning was an opinion. Did Peter McGough feel both their glutes and decide who's harder? No. So quit lying out of your ass by saying it's a fact.

I know you claimed you know more that doesn't translate to competitive bodybuilding

and No Peter didn't feel their glutes ( that I know of ) what he did was sit at home on his pc and figured it all out via pictures online 

and I can post 50 quotes talking about how Great Dorian's conditioning can you post a single one supporting your claim that it was ' over-hyped ' ? 

you're not in my league boy

[Camel Jockey]

Ronnie looked better than Yates in 96... hahahahah

[Camel Jockey]

LOL POOR DORIAN..

Even in head to head match ups in 96 he couldn't touch Ronnie.

[NeoSeminole]

I know you claimed you know more that doesn't translate to competitive bodybuilding

so you admit you purposely accused me of something I never said?

and No Peter didn't feel their glutes ( that I know of )

nuff said. You're trying to pass an opinion off as fact.

[m8]

Dorian looked great in the gym...
On stage, most of the time, he looked like another Greg Kovacs.

[NarcissisticDeity]

so you admit you purposely accused me of something I never said?

nuff said. You're trying to pass an opinion off as fact.

LMMFAO heed your own advice you fucking idiot lol you're in fact trying to pass of YOUR OPINION has fact lol

owned 

[NeoSeminole]

LMMFAO heed your own advice you fucking idiot lol you're in fact trying to pass of YOUR OPINION has fact lol

translation: "I've been exposed"

[Camel Jockey]

LMMFAO heed your own advice you fucking idiot lol you're in fact trying to pass of YOUR OPINION has fact lol

owned 

What's your reply to this? hahahaha

[NarcissisticDeity]

translation: "I've been exposed"

Neo you're getting desperate you're trying to pass off your opinion as fact and you weren't even there and then in the same sentence tell me not to pass it off as fact based on those who were there lol that makes you an idiot and a hypocrite