Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Hulkster]

the more visuals that come out, the more ridiculous this thread gets.

we have 1500+ pages of 93/95 dorian getting killed by 99 ronnie, and it is never ending:

 

[Hulkster]

this pic would be a great lesson for the idiot ND who claims dorian has better balance/proportions than Ronnie.

notice: nasser's arms are big and in proportion to his frame.

dorian's arms are far undersized and are too small for his frame.

learn it kids LOL

ps nasser is owning dorian from the front as usual lol

[pumpster]

Nasser's arms are the right proportion to the torso there, Yates NO.

Yates having his ass handed to him.

[England_1]

Leave it to the groupie to post a back shot of Yates completely relaxed to an blown up shot of Coleman with his clavicles elevated 

This is an accurate and unbiased full relaxed rear shot. Coleman blasted away 

[England_1]

monster "progress" 

[NeoSeminole]

This is an accurate and unbiased full relaxed rear shot. Coleman blasted away

that comparison is from ironage, you dumbf*ck. The site is as biased as they come.

[England_1]

that comparison is from ironage, you dumbf*ck. The site is as biased as they come.

Don't be pissed just because you cannot face reality 

Progress in the IFBB ended in 1993.

Coleman was a PIG in 2003 as evidenced by the Haney comparison.

[Hulkster]

Progress in the IFBB ended in 1993.

lol sure Pubes..

 

[England_1]

lol sure Pubes..

 

Dorian was 260lbs @ 5'10 and more ripped than Coleman ever was.

Coleman's best was always in the 240s (98,01).

Like I said, progress hasn't been made since 1993

[England_1]

Hell, even Haney owns Coleman on the front lat spread. Coleman looks like a pig in comparison with a stomach protruding the wrong way  Again, NO PROGRESS. Haney with better quads, abs, chest, taper, lat thickness, etc.

[bizzy]

Both in the 280's...

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND, why do you keep saying Ronnie 99 was not as well conditioned than Ronnie 98 when we not only have the visual evidence to support this, but a Peter quote as well?

you have one peter quote and no  visual evidece.

we have both showing/stating that he was in better condition in 99.

answer please.

its getting stupid with you relying on ONE quote when we have ANOTHER quote stating the EXACT OPPOSITE PLUS VISUAL EVIDENCE.


please explain.

I have not one but two Peter quotes from 99 and 00 and I have Ronnie himself saying this as well , you're not going to tell Ronnie he's wrong and I posted pictures and explanations on what he's better conditioned , you're arguing with Ronnie Coleman lol that monumentally stupid and the other quote does not state he was hard or drier in 1999 than 1998 thats a lie a proven lie , stop insisting this .

Ronnie Coleman what was your best Olympia ? I would have to say my first because my conditioning was spot on lol Ronnie FYI didn't say 1999 , he didn't say 2003 for a reason , this is right in like with McGough said Ronnie's conditioning being off from one year to the next and the best part is you're not only saying they're not but it wasn't just as good but in fact you're claiming he's actually BETTER CONDITIONED in 1999 lol you're beyond stupid and your claims contradicts everyone else .

you're beyond rational debate .

[England_1]

I have not one but two Peter quotes from 99 and 00 and I have Ronnie himself saying this as well , you're not going to tell Ronnie he's wrong and I posted pictures and explanations on what he's better conditioned , you're arguing with Ronnie Coleman lol that monumentally stupid and the other quote does not state he was hard or drier in 1999 than 1998 thats a lie a proven lie , stop insisting this .

Ronnie Coleman what was your best Olympia ? I would have to say my first because my conditioning was spot on lol Ronnie FYI didn't say 1999 , he didn't say 2003 for a reason , this is right in like with McGough said Ronnie's conditioning being off from one year to the next and the best part is you're not only saying they're not but it wasn't just as good but in fact you're claiming he's actually BETTER CONDITIONED in 1999 lol you're beyond stupid and your claims contradicts everyone else .

you're beyond rational debate .

It's the same cycle over and over again. ND's logic versus Hulkster screaming "look at the pictures"

Bottom line is, the pictures don't tell the whole story. Samir Bannout claims Dorian got "1st, 2nd, and 3rd" at the Mr. Olympia and Hulkster, in all his infinite wisdom, claims that Flex beat Dorian at the 93O 

Hulkster, do you think these statements about Dorian's condition (from multiple credible sources I may add: Horton and McGough) were just made up? Was Dorian's grainyness just made up? Or was it acne? 

[Iceman1981]

The reason I said pre-contest is not because of the size but because of the lower back
definition. He doesn't look like he's in contest shape and Ronnie does.

Actually, yates lower back was always loose in the rear latspread in contest shape or not.

[Hulkster]

ND, everyone is getting fucking sick and tired of your inability to read and understand simple fucking english.

read this quote again moron:

In his first defense of the Mr. O title, Coleman exhibited size, condition and sinew-splitting fullness he lacked a year earlier

it clearly states from the eyewitness Peter that Ronnie displayed size, CONDITION AND (sinew-splitting) fullness HE LACKED A YEAR EARILER.

A YEAR EARLIER MEANS 1998 you fucking retard .

so stop saying its a "lie" that Peter said he had better condition in 99.

its right there idiot.

right in front of your face. you just don't like it.

and Ronnie stated this at the 99 contest (I wil get the MandF with the quote and shove it up your ass lol)

AND we have TONS of visual evidence.

what do you have?

ONE Peter quote (in direct contradiction to his other one) and thats IT LOL

 

[Hulkster]

Actually, yates lower back was always loose in the rear latspread in contest shape or not.

yeah, something ND refuses to admit..

[Hulkster]

It's the same cycle over and over again. ND's logic versus Hulkster screaming "look at the pictures"

Bottom line is, the pictures don't tell the whole story. Samir Bannout claims Dorian got "1st, 2nd, and 3rd" at the Mr. Olympia and Hulkster, in all his infinite wisdom, claims that Flex beat Dorian at the 93O 

Hulkster, do you think these statements about Dorian's condition (from multiple credible sources I may add: Horton and McGough) were just made up? Was Dorian's grainyness just made up? Or was it acne? 

why are you so stupid?

you are confusing three different issues:

1. that Ronnie was better conditioned in 99 than in 98

2. That Dorian was well conditioned

and

3. That 99 Ronnie was better conditioned than dorian 93.

We have shown that all three of these are TRUE, based on 1500 pages of visual evidence (thats not a story, its a novel lol) and tons of quotes.

Just because Ronnie 99 was in far better condition than dorian 93 does NOT mean that dorian 93 was not well conditioned.


why is this so hard for you to understand?

God damn its easy to see why you guys never went to university

you would have been eaten up and spit out by the academic challenges lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

You can't have it both ways...I do agree that Yates was just as dense @ 269
as he was @ 257 if not more, but I also believe Ronnie was as or more dense
@ 257 than 245.
You can't say one bodybuilder is more dense because he is drier (Ronnie in 2001)
and then say that criteria doesn't apply to another bodybuilder.
As far as the 1993 video goes I don't think it is as impressive as the BandW pics.
I think it also shows that Dorian, although big, was not contest ready, whether that be
fat, water, ect.   

Please explain to me where I said one bodybuilder is more dense because he is drier . density and dryness are TWO separate things and I don't care if you believe Ronnie is more dense at 257 pounds pounds than he was at 245 pounds because thats not the case and unlike you I can back up my claim

And I'm not sure if you understand that 1993 video is the black & white photos and he is essentially contest ready proof

Peter McGough Ironage
June 06 , 2003

The later photos were taken in his gym about seven weeks before the 1993 Olympia. He'd just finished a chest workout and he weighed 269 pounds. If I had to rate my most memorable bodybuilding moment the sight of Dorian that day would be neck-and-neck with the first time I saw Sergio. He hit the first shot, double biceps, and I walked up to him and said, "Don't worry Dorian. You have plenty of time to fix this. All is not lost."
I told him he could walk on to the Olympia stage in that condition weighing 269 pounds, untanned, with his socks on and still win.


Ronnie couldn't maintain his great conditioning above 250 pounds , Dorian could

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND, everyone is getting fucking sick and tired of your inability to read and understand simple fucking english.

read this quote again moron:

it clearly states from the eyewitness Peter that Ronnie displayed size, CONDITION AND (sinew-splitting) fullness HE LACKED A YEAR EARILER.

A YEAR EARLIER MEANS 1998 you fucking retard .

so stop saying its a "lie" that Peter said he had better condition in 99.

its right there idiot.

right in front of your face. you just don't like it.

and Ronnie stated this at the 99 contest (I wil get the MandF with the quote and shove it up your ass lol)

AND we have TONS of visual evidence.

what do you have?

ONE Peter quote (in direct contradiction to his other one) and thats IT LOL

 

NO WHERE in that quote does it say Ronnie was better conditioned than 1998 , you tried this quote before or Neo and like then you fall flat on your face . pay attention Hulkster

displayed size, CONDITION AND (sinew-splitting) fullness HE LACKED A YEAR EARILER.

he did display size , condition AND pay attention to this word AND the fullness he lacked a year earlier , FULLNESS , FULLNESS he in 1998 had size and condition however all he lacked was FULLNESS no where does it say he was bigger than 1998 and harder & drier NO where thats a lie and it does not contradict his original claims and the fact that Ronnie himself said he was better conditioned in 1998


you have NOTHING as usual , this quote failed before and fails now

[NarcissisticDeity]

Actually, yates lower back was always loose in the rear latspread in contest shape or not.

LMFAO loose skin thats muscle kid thats his erector spinae learn anatomy

[NarcissisticDeity]

why are you so stupid?

you are confusing three different issues:

1. that Ronnie was better conditioned in 99 than in 98

2. That Dorian was well conditioned

and

3. That 99 Ronnie was better conditioned than dorian 93.

We have shown that all three of these are TRUE, based on 1500 pages of visual evidence (thats not a story, its a novel lol) and tons of quotes.

Just because Ronnie 99 was in far better condition than dorian 93 does NOT mean that dorian 93 was not well conditioned.


why is this so hard for you to understand?

God damn its easy to see why you guys never went to university

you would have been eaten up and spit out by the academic challenges lol

No Hulkster you and your crummy University degree don't get it , pay attention because you will never be able to counter this

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.


he was never drier or harder than Dorian. your claim is crushed period . let me post that again

he was never drier or harder than Dorian. Ronnie was NEVER drier or harder than Dorian , not in 1995 , not in 1998 , certainly not in 1999 , not in 2001 , not in 2003 NEVER every contest Dorian Yates and Ronnie Coleman were ever at Peter McGough was there , he's seen them at photoshoots , quest posing , seminars , at their best and worse and he said Ronnie was NEVER drier than Dorian lol you're owned. 

[Necrosis]

LMFAO loose skin thats muscle kid thats his erector spinae learn anatomy

no its not its loose skin, ther erector group is visible there and run superiormedial to the spine, they have nothign to due with the sking on the lateralinferior portion below the lats origin. nice try moron.

nice try on the quote too, lol. your delusion is amusing as hell

[NarcissisticDeity]

this pic would be a great lesson for the idiot ND who claims dorian has better balance/proportions than Ronnie.

notice: nasser's arms are big and in proportion to his frame.

dorian's arms are far undersized and are too small for his frame.

learn it kids LOL

ps nasser is owning dorian from the front as usual lol

You posted one single picture as proof lol this is proof? no Dorian's arms's aren't to small for his torso they're in proportion and what does this have to do with Ronnie? nothing funny you mention balance & proportion because both Nasser & Dorian crush Ronnie in this area and to further crush your empty claim Dorian's arms don't appear big when viewed dead on but from the side it's a whole other ball game ( see pictures ) and couple that with the rest of his physique and you're screwed because Ronnie doesn't measure up from top to bottom , funny you harp on Dorian's arms and thats it and let me break down Ronnie's structual flaws

forearms not in proportion with his biceps/tricpes , short torso , arms to big for the torso , glutes that can be seen from the front , calves not in proportion with his quads , do I need to continue? and while Nasser does have excellent balance & proportion he has his flaws , longish torso , short legs , forearms like Ronnie NOT In proportion with his biceps/triceps so if you have any idea on how the game is played you'd be able to spot this , but then again you're not that sophisticated 

Bev Francis : Bodybuilder's phsyique you most admire ?

The man Dorian Yates , his combonation of size and shape makes for an awesome physique , unlike a lot of big guys he's not a load of massive parts just thrown together , His symmetry is almost perfect , Everything is in proportion , no weak bodyparts .

like a lot of big guys he's not a load of massive parts just thrown together ( Ronnie Coleman ) 




Interview with David Robson

[ Q ] What were some of your better physical qualities as a bodybuilder, do you think?

      Obviously I carried a lot of muscle mass and my trademark was to come into a show in super hard condition. I think my muscles had a certain quality and density from all the years of heavy training that a lot of guys didn't have.


      One thing that I think people underrated me on - it was never really mentioned because of my sheer physical size and condition - was my balance and proportion. Not only from muscle group to muscle group, but from upper body to lower body. My skeletal structure and everything else was there and in good balance.

not only from muscle group to muscle group but upper to lower as well , that my friend shuts you up real quick .

[Necrosis]

No Hulkster you and your crummy University degree don't get it , pay attention because you will never be able to counter this

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.


he was never drier or harder than Dorian. your claim is crushed period . let me post that again

he was never drier or harder than Dorian. Ronnie was NEVER drier or harder than Dorian , not in 1995 , not in 1998 , certainly not in 1999 , not in 2001 , not in 2003 NEVER every contest Dorian Yates and Ronnie Coleman were ever at Peter McGough was there , he's seen them at photoshoots , quest posing , seminars , at their best and worse and he said Ronnie was NEVER drier than Dorian lol you're owned. 

first off its one person's opinion, why does it matter. there are quotes that are pro ronnie saying the opposite, saying he was the best ever etc...

so if you where not such a pseudointellect you could understand that at best quotes are a wash since both sides are supported. please back up your statements with pictures of both at said contests, and lets see who appears more conditioned. oh thats right, you wont because dorian gets fucking pwnd everytime. your stupidity and ignorance are shocking to me. if you prefer dorian that is fine, but to argue it in the face of overwhelming evidence that this was not the case is just your bias controlling you.

[pumpster]

nice try on the quote too, lol. your delusion is amusing as hell

His idiocy never ceases to amuse, furiously typing away in posts with absolutely no basis in fact but of course he knows better LOL