Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Necrosis]

that was then.

this is now.

no one who is smart who looks at tons of pics of loose wrinkles of skin and then claims that they don't exist.

you get more and more stupid as the months go by..

i dont see anything that indicates intelligence in his posts what so ever. he is blantently ignoring analogies, visual evidence, and logical arguements. there is nothing that could convince him obviously.

[NarcissisticDeity]

i dont see anything that indicates intelligence in his posts what so ever. he is blantently ignoring analogies, visual evidence, and logical arguements. there is nothing that could convince him obviously.

This is coming from someone who can't even spell correctly lol you scare me man lol

[kcballer]

The only thing Coleman is owning Flex on in this shot is bitch tit size. Coleman was lucky as hell in 98. Even Nasser is killing Coleman haha

no, argualbly flex is better but not nasser, nasser clearly has oiled up biceps so he's out right away. 

[kcballer]

Keep trying to rack up parts sport thats not how the game is played FYI and please learn how contests are judged before you commit to blanket statements

i realise its not just about individual parts but when someone has better individual parts than another that usually means a better, bigger physique.  Before you start talking asthetics dorian had piss poor asthetics i mean really in terms of ideal, neither ronnie nor dorian have nice physiques, just pounds of mass muscle in good condition.  Both lose to shawn ray, flex, levrone, cormier in the asthetic department. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

i realise its not just about individual parts but when someone has better individual parts than another that usually means a better, bigger physique.  Before you start talking asthetics dorian had piss poor asthetics i mean really in terms of ideal, neither ronnie nor dorian have nice physiques, just pounds of mass muscle in good condition.  Both lose to shawn ray, flex, levrone, cormier in the asthetic department. 

Who's arguing aesthetics? no one. why are you posting? lol

[bizzy]

i realise its not just about individual parts but when someone has better individual parts than another that usually means a better, bigger physique.  Before you start talking asthetics dorian had piss poor asthetics i mean really in terms of ideal, neither ronnie nor dorian have nice physiques, just pounds of mass muscle in good condition.  Both lose to shawn ray, flex, levrone, cormier in the asthetic department. 

This is all subjective opinion but I personally thought Ronnie always had excellent aesthetics.
I told a buddy of mine back in 1996 that I thought Ronnie would be Mr. Olympia someday.
I think it was after he won the Canada Cup if my memory serves me right.
Although he's not flexing his legs in the first shot I think he looks just awesome standing there. 

[Necrosis]

This is coming from someone who can't even spell correctly lol you scare me man lol

sorry i will use the spellchecker like you, plus i dont take all day to form an argument.

[pumpster]

Who's arguing aesthetics? no one. why are you posting? lol

He can't bring up aesthetics and changes the subject because quite simply Coleman in the 90s had good aesthetics, the keg never did.

Two of ugliest & most comically mediocre poses you'll ever see on a pro BB:

[suckmymuscle]

if other poses show it, the debate is over obviously.

  No, this is incorrect because what matters is not the pose but whether the skin is folding while he is standing straight. If it were, then you'd have a point about loose skin, but such is not the case.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

sorry i will use the spellchecker like you, plus i dont take all day to form an argument.

I don't use spell checker lol and you have no argument , just blanket statements !

[NarcissisticDeity]

He can't bring up aesthetics and changes the subject because quite simply Coleman in the 90s had good aesthetics, the keg never did.

Two of ugliest & most comically mediocre poses you'll ever see on a pro BB:

I don't need to bring up aesthetics it doesn't apply to Dorian thats NOT why he won and he beat among the more aesthetic bodybuilders ever . so much for what you know.

[England_1]

Hulkster, where are you? 

[NarcissisticDeity]

i really dont understand what you guys are talking about. lets see


jay cutler has a similar problem, it looks the same and is not evidence when he is standing relaxed in good condtion. dorian has what appears to be the exact same thing in the exact location and in multiple poses. yet, its not the same thing for some strange reason, its loose skin on jay cutler, but dorians is some how wrinkles, that appear like loose skin.

seriously, come on man, im not going to even bother responding to this anymore, its so laughable its a retarded point to argue. its like me saying ronnie had a six pack. its obvious to everyone he has loose skin, or wrinkles on his lower back, in both the lat spread and the back double bi, i wonder if he has it in the back relaxed at all?

You're the genius who claimed Ronnie had loose skin on his abdominals and you're talking about how its ' retarded ' to argue lol

[Necrosis]

You're the genius who claimed Ronnie had loose skin on his abdominals and you're talking about how its ' retarded ' to argue lol

what do you mean he does have loose skin on the abdominals because of the handpositioning in that particular pose, it would be retarded to see the folds of skin by his knuckles and argue otherwise. you should go to school and enter logic and argumentation 101

[Iceman1981]

i was going to say something similar. Yates spreads the lats and then leans back a little, causing the low back skin to fold. its not an issue.

Ronnie spreads the lats and leans forward, hence no folds. hope this helps.

Standing straight here and still has loose skin hanging. It matches the same area when he is doing the rear latspread.

[bizzy]

Referring to that loose skin lat spread pic of Ronnie.
You would think with all the people and pros around him
he would have learned to hit that pose properly. He almost always
slumped his shoulders forward making the pose much less impressive
than it could have been. Here's one where he's actually hitting it right
and he looks so much better.

[Necrosis]

Standing straight here and still has loose skin hanging. It matches the same area when he is doing the rear latspread.

ahhahaha there is more proof which satisfies the dorian sides criteria,


 "this is incorrect because what matters is not the pose but whether the skin is folding while he is standing straight. If it were, then you'd have a point about loose skin, but such is not the case."



this proves it, its less pronounced but clearly visible. i will admit it does have something to do with the way he does the pose, but he clearly has it in the back double bi and relaxed which proves it isnt just the position in that pose

[NeoSeminole]

more pics of Dorian's saggy skin.

[Necrosis]

more pics of Dorian's saggy skin.

thats not loose skin, its wrinkles

[Hulkster]

I don't need to bring up aesthetics it doesn't apply to Dorian thats NOT why he won and he beat among the more aesthetic bodybuilders ever . so much for what you know.

yes, Dorian didn't need aesthetics to beat a 205 pound shawn ray.

but he sure as hell would need it to beat a 257 pound Ronnie with a better back than him..

 

[Hulkster]

lol owned

he jumped out the window clutching a picture of Ronnie's most muscular from 1999 , one thats not photoshopped I might add lol

I find it totally ironic that you seem to think that because I said that you were smart back in July, that you are incapable of making stupid arguments for months and months since then such that I have changed my opinion completely.

 

since you returned to this thread ND, you have made some of the most ridiculous arguments and stupid denial tactics I have ever seen.

this whole loose skin thing is but one small example.

you have been getting owned on multiple threads at once lately, your posts are that stupid.

you are a stupid man ND.

your posts prove that over and over again lately.

[Hulkster]

ND before your hiatus you made a lot more sense, honestly.

since then you have been incredibly stupid.

back then you used to actually use visual evidence.

since your hiatus all you do is post two peter quotes for example.

if you can't see the difference in the quality of your arguments, then there is nothing I can do for you.

you have really taken a down turn since you came back.

sorry, but its true.

for hundreds of pages you not only deny what is right in front of your eyes (eg. loose skin) but you avoid any and all visual comparisons in favor of a single peter quote that was already contradicted by another peter quote.

if you can't see how stupid that is, well, there is nothing any of us can do for you.

sorry

[Hulkster]

I don't know what Sucky is talking about, but dorian has loose skin whether he is standing straight, hitting a lat spread, or a rear double bi.

he has loose skin all the time.

Stupid ND will no doubt deny all these shots:

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

I find it totally ironic that you seem to think that because I said that you were smart back in July, that you are incapable of making stupid arguments for months and months since then such that I have changed my opinion completely.

 

since you returned to this thread ND, you have made some of the most ridiculous arguments and stupid denial tactics I have ever seen.

this whole loose skin thing is but one small example.

you have been getting owned on multiple threads at once lately, your posts are that stupid.

you are a stupid man ND.

your posts prove that over and over again lately.

You're owned you're an idiot , my argument hasn't changed one iota , I don't care if you think I'm smart or not my argument is sound . the difference is you're a hypocrite who talks out both sides of your mouth and you don't see me claiming you're smart  for a reason.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND before your hiatus you made a lot more sense, honestly.

since then you have been incredibly stupid.

back then you used to actually use visual evidence.

since your hiatus all you do is post two peter quotes for example.

if you can't see the difference in the quality of your arguments, then there is nothing I can do for you.

you have really taken a down turn since you came back.

sorry, but its true.

for hundreds of pages you not only deny what is right in front of your eyes (eg. loose skin) but you avoid any and all visual comparisons in favor of a single peter quote that was already contradicted by another peter quote.

if you can't see how stupid that is, well, there is nothing any of us can do for you.

sorry

stop projecting your stupidity on me . you're the moron who is telling Ronnie Coleman he is wrong not me , you're the one telling , Kris Gethin , Kevin Horton , Bob Chick , Peter McGough , Chris Cormier , Julian Schimdt , Team Flex , Jon Hotten , Lee Priest , Ronnie Coleman , Bev Francis , among others  they're all wrong and you're right sitting at home never once attending a single pro show never mind the shows in question , you've gone on record saying Dorian is the most overrated bodybuilder of all time ( which you were forced to amend ) his conditioning was a myth ( which you were forced to amend ) how 1994 was just as controversial as 1981 but 2001 wasn't , how Lee Labrada had crappy abdominals and crappy calves , how Ronnie dominated Jay Cutler in 2001 despite losing the whole prejudging lol Ronnie having more detail in his calves than Dorian , and these are just SOME of the gems you came up with lol and you have the balls to claim I'm stupid? lol that doesn't offend me in the least because you're so ignorant when it come to competitive bodybuilder I don't respect what you type for a reason its garbage .

You're University didn't teach you anything about competitive bodybuilding and it sure didn't teach you about how to form an argument , again at this point you're very lucky I'm even bothering to respond to you , consider it an early x-mass gift.