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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38650 on: December 16, 2007, 12:25:18 PM »
notice: ripped split bis

midsection in better shape/

quads infinitely more detailed and conditioned.

lol

ND, you have nothing to back up your claims.

nothing.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38651 on: December 16, 2007, 12:25:25 PM »
I love how ND claims that 1500 pages of visual evidence contradicting his claim (that few people are dumb enough to agree with in the first place) is a 'strawman".

LOL

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No , see you're ignorant as to what a strawman argument is lol please look it up or I could do it for you? you post a really shitty pic of Yates to prove a point and it easily refutable , you set up strawmen to knock them down and its always fails lol top pic is the Hulkster strawman and the bottom one is the pic that easily refutes it , couple that with the quotes and you have a very stupid Hulkster , reaching new levels of desperation lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38652 on: December 16, 2007, 12:28:16 PM »
in every shot of dorian that ND puts up, Ronnie owns him in the condioning department

lol

keep trying ND.

you have failed so far in 1500 pages but we all admire your desperation

LOL
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38653 on: December 16, 2007, 12:30:42 PM »
notice: ripped split bis

midsection in better shape/

quads infinitely more detailed and conditioned.

lol

ND, you have nothing to back up your claims.

nothing.



Points to ponder of stupid one , Ronnie's pic is from a Per Bernal Professional studio shoot after the 1999 Olympia lol he's contest ready , meaning color and oil and extremely complementary lighting and you're comparing this to a poorly lite gym pictures only taken for personal use , he's untanned , he doesn;t have any posing oil , or complementary lighting and this proves what? how retarded you are , how desperate you are , the comparison is the furthest from accurate one can get and Dorian is STILL kicking Ronnie's ass

He's bigger , harder , has much better balance & proportion and he's complete from head to toe , Dorian is doing this much damage without all the bennefits imagine them on equal ground LMFAO

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38654 on: December 16, 2007, 12:31:50 PM »
Stop passing yourself and these idiots off as ' experts ' first of all , second I have quotes specific to this argument that state Dorian has better conditioning & density , and balance & proportion , I've proven my point what have you done? nothing  ;) all you do is type while you're at it make an effort to spell correctly.

you have used quotes which have been contradicted, quotes which are not directly comparing ronnie and dorian. there are many quotes that talk about ronnie being the biggest, most shredded olympian ever, and the greatest mr o ever, what is the criteria you use to determine what quotes to use.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38655 on: December 16, 2007, 12:32:23 PM »
in every shot of dorian that ND puts up, Ronnie owns him in the condioning department

lol

keep trying ND.

you have failed so far in 1500 pages but we all admire your desperation

LOL

he was never drier or harder than Dorian. easily corrected . lol supplement your pics if you can , oh wait you can't lol


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38656 on: December 16, 2007, 12:34:35 PM »
Points to ponder of stupid one , Ronnie's pic is from a Per Bernal Professional studio shoot after the 1999 Olympia lol he's contest ready , meaning color and oil and extremely complementary lighting and you're comparing this to a poorly lite gym pictures only taken for personal use , he's untanned , he doesn;t have any posing oil , or complementary lighting and this proves what? how retarded you are , how desperate you are , the comparison is the furthest from accurate one can get and Dorian is STILL kicking Ronnie's ass

He's bigger , harder , has much better balance & proportion and he's complete from head to toe , Dorian is doing this much damage without all the bennefits imagine them on equal ground LMFAO

dorian has the favorable lighting there, many shadows and black and white.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38657 on: December 16, 2007, 12:36:15 PM »
you have used quotes which have been contradicted, quotes which are not directly comparing ronnie and dorian. there are many quotes that talk about ronnie being the biggest, most shredded olympian ever, and the greatest mr o ever, what is the criteria you use to determine what quotes to use.

I have NO quotes that have been contradicted , please post examples if you can thats how its done , any assumed contradicted will be corrected , and I have more quotes specific to Ronnie & Dorian that once again back up my claim and NO you typed this nonsense before you have ONE quote from Flex Wheeler saying Ronnie is the biggest most shredded Olympia ever , and technically thats true because he competed at the Olympia at 287 pounds with good conditioning , however that has NOTHING to do with Dorian Yates' conditioning and I wont argue he's the greatest Mr Olympia ever , he has 8 straight Olympia wins and the most career wins its true and it has NOTHING to do with Dorian at his best being able to beat him , I hope this helps.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38658 on: December 16, 2007, 12:36:49 PM »
he was never drier or harder than Dorian. easily corrected . supplement your pics if you can , oh wait you can't lol

am I supposed to be impressed by Dorian's conditioning in those pics? All I see are smooth hams, glutes, and poorly defined quads. ???

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38659 on: December 16, 2007, 12:38:38 PM »
are those wrinkles I see on Dorian's lower back?


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38660 on: December 16, 2007, 12:40:22 PM »
dorian has the favorable lighting there, many shadows and black and white.

MORON blanket statement easily corrected from the photographer who took the pictures lol Hulkster tried this route and got crushed just like you're about to lol

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The photo is technically terrible, fortunately the physique is awesome.
I'd agree with Kris about Dorian showing up on stage how he looked a few weeks out. There are some shots of him at around 280 - 285 shredded. That conditioning has not been surpassed.


This is Kevin Horton from this site talking SPECIFICALLY about the very famous black & white shots . please pay attention to where he says the photo was technically terrible , now keep in mind these were NEVER intended for publication just for personal use , these are NOT like Hulkster posted a Per Bernal professional studio photo shoot .

anything else you need corrected?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38661 on: December 16, 2007, 12:41:04 PM »
am I supposed to be impressed by Dorian's conditioning in those pics? All I see are smooth hams, glutes, and poorly defined quads. ???

You see what you want , you think you know what great conditioning is and its proven YOU DON'T .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38662 on: December 16, 2007, 12:42:32 PM »
are those wrinkles I see on Dorian's lower back?



Yeah he has wrinkles on his triceps too , that must be loose hanging skin LMFAO

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38663 on: December 16, 2007, 12:43:01 PM »
MORON blanket statement easily corrected from the photographer who took the pictures lol Hulkster tried this route and got crushed just like you're about to lol

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The photo is technically terrible, fortunately the physique is awesome.
I'd agree with Kris about Dorian showing up on stage how he looked a few weeks out. There are some shots of him at around 280 - 285 shredded. That conditioning has not been surpassed.


This is Kevin Horton from this site talking SPECIFICALLY about the very famous black & white shots . please pay attention to where he says the photo was technically terrible , now keep in mind these were NEVER intended for publication just for personal use , these are NOT like Hulkster posted a Per Bernal professional studio photo shoot .

anything else you need corrected?


why do you assume he is talking about the lighting? techinical could be referring to the angles, camera, the way he took the photos, many things. far from definitive proof. if he is referring exactly to the lighting then your right, if not the quote is open for interpretation hence it doesnt prove your point, hence its useless.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38664 on: December 16, 2007, 12:45:41 PM »

why do you assume he is talking about the lighting? techinical could be referring to the angles, camera, the way he took the photos, many things. far from definitive proof. if he is referring exactly to the lighting then your right, if not the quote is open for interpretation hence it doesnt prove your point, hence its useless.

I know he was referring to lighting lol because the MORON Hulkster claimed that the shadows made the picture look better and if it were in color he wouldn't look as good lol

Kevin Horton on the B&W of Yates

I agree. Nobody would have even have heard of Yates if those shots had been in colour. He was really only 110lbs with one leg 6 inches longer than the other and as smooth as a babies arse. He would never have won all those titles either because the judges were obviously influenced by the black and white tonality.
Amazing what Tri-X can do for a physique. Kodak should use it in their advertising campaign.


again need anything else corrected?  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38665 on: December 16, 2007, 12:45:51 PM »
You see what you want , you think you know what great conditioning is and its proven YOU DON'T.

no, I see what's in front of me. I could return the favor and say you only see what you want. Ronnie has some of the best arms, delts, pecs, back, glutes, quads, and hamstrings of all-time yet you claim the whole look is ruined by mediocre calves. ::)

I can look past Dorian's twig arms, barrel midsection and narrow quads, and still appreciate his physique.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38666 on: December 16, 2007, 12:48:51 PM »
Yeah he has wrinkles on his triceps too , that must be loose hanging skin LMFAO

there is no escaping the truth. ;)


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38667 on: December 16, 2007, 12:51:35 PM »
I know he was referring to lighting lol because the MORON Hulkster claimed that the shadows made the picture look better and if it were in color he wouldn't look as good lol

Kevin Horton on the B&W of Yates

I agree. Nobody would have even have heard of Yates if those shots had been in colour. He was really only 110lbs with one leg 6 inches longer than the other and as smooth as a babies arse. He would never have won all those titles either because the judges were obviously influenced by the black and white tonality.
Amazing what Tri-X can do for a physique. Kodak should use it in their advertising campaign.


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i dont understand what point your trying to make, the shawdows are the lighting the color has nothing to do with the lighting, do you think dorian was in black and white for this photoshoot? im referring to the top down lighting and the shadows which show detail extremely good, unfortunately he has very little detail to begin with.

so please tell me how the color is referring to the lighting?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38668 on: December 16, 2007, 12:51:40 PM »
no, I see what's in front of me. I could return the favor and say you only see what you want. Ronnie has some of the best arms, delts, pecs, back, glutes, quads, and hamstrings of all-time yet you claim the whole look is ruined by mediocre calves. ::)

I can look past Dorian's twig arms, barrel midsection and narrow quads, and still appreciate his physique.

No see what you like and like Hulkster your opinion contradicts a respected eyewitness you keep insisting he's smooth and soft and doughy and any other adjective you can come up with and you're wrong period.

Kevin Horton and Peter McGough both who were at that photoshoot claim his conditioning is without equal again you don't know what you're talking about , a smart man would say " well he doesn't look great to me , but they're claiming he has great conditioning , maybe I'm wrong on this one " but you're not a smart man

and spare me the collection of parts theory it never worked before and it still doesn't now , Dorian's symmetry is ' near perfect ' I can back that up , Dorian said specific he has better balance than Ronnie , I can back that up , like the conditioning , like Hulkster you're always contradicting the professionals see a pattern here? lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38669 on: December 16, 2007, 12:52:58 PM »
No see what you like and like Hulkster your opinion contradicts a respected eyewitness you keep insisting he's smooth and soft and doughy and any other adjective you can come up with and you're wrong period.

Kevin Horton and Peter McGough both who were at that photoshoot claim his conditioning is without equal again you don't know what you're talking about , a smart man would say " well he doesn't look great to me , but they're claiming he has great conditioning , maybe I'm wrong on this one " but you're not a smart man

and spare me the collection of parts theory it never worked before and it still doesn't now , Dorian's symmetry is ' near perfect ' I can back that up , Dorian said specific he has better balance than Ronnie , I can back that up , like the conditioning , like Hulkster you're always contradicting the professionals see a pattern here? lol

the best physique peter ever saw was ronnie at the arnold this was after seeing dorian. then later in life he recollects and something called bias slips in, but you use that quote, then that quote is contradicted anyway but you continue to use it.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38670 on: December 16, 2007, 12:53:21 PM »
there is no escaping the truth. ;)



Again look at the wrinkles on his triceps in the rear latspread are we to believe not only does he have loose hanging skin on his lower back but on both arms now lol maybe in your world that makes sense but come back to reality.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38671 on: December 16, 2007, 12:56:20 PM »
the best physique peter ever saw was ronnie at the arnold this was after seeing dorian. then later in life he recollects and something called bias slips in, but you use that quote, then that quote is contradicted anyway but you continue to use it.

No because he saying the best physique is Ronnie is subjective that doesn't make it fact , ask 20 people who the best physique is and you'll get 20 different responses its to subjective but the point stands about conditioning

Dorian's conditioning is better than Ronnies which is PART of the reason why he would be able to beat him.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38672 on: December 16, 2007, 01:00:38 PM »
i dont understand what point your trying to make, the shawdows are the lighting the color has nothing to do with the lighting, do you think dorian was in black and white for this photoshoot? im referring to the top down lighting and the shadows which show detail extremely good, unfortunately he has very little detail to begin with.

so please tell me how the color is referring to the lighting?

You don't know if he has very little detail , the shadows don't create detail , he has the detail its just harder to see in pictures , which is why everyone says he looks light years better in person than in pictures.

an the photographer said it wasn't a great technical shot I'm pretty sure that means it wasn't favorable lighting as you claim

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38673 on: December 16, 2007, 01:02:24 PM »
No see what you like and like Hulkster your opinion contradicts a respected eyewitness you keep insisting he's smooth and soft and doughy and any other adjective you can come up with and you're wrong period.

your opinion that Dorian would beat Ronnie contradicts many respectable eyewitness. What's your point?

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Kevin Horton and Peter McGough both who were at that photoshoot claim his conditioning is without equal again you don't know what you're talking about , a smart man would say " well he doesn't look great to me , but they're claiming he has great conditioning , maybe I'm wrong on this one " but you're not a smart man

I'm more knowledgable about the human body than both of them. One is a journalist while the other is a photographer. Whoop-tee-doo. I wouldn't be surprised if neither man has a college degree, let alone in pre-med.

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and spare me the collection of parts theory it never worked before and it still doesn't now , Dorian's symmetry is ' near perfect ' I can back that up , Dorian said specific he has better balance than Ronnie , I can back that up , like the conditioning , like Hulkster you're always contradicting the professionals see a pattern here? lol

the "collection of parts theory" as you call it does work. Ronnie at his prime had size + aesthetics - something Dorian never had. You act like Ronnie was a mix-match of parts but he wasn't. His arms, delts, pecs, back, quads, and hamstrings all fit perfectly on his frame.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #38674 on: December 16, 2007, 01:04:50 PM »
Again look at the wrinkles on his triceps in the rear latspread are we to believe not only does he have loose hanging skin on his lower back but on both arms now lol maybe in your world that makes sense but come back to reality.

last time I checked, the triceps were not the lower back. Nice try at a deflection. ;)