Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Necrosis]

heres the clincher, nd said that because dorian had no loose skin in the back crunch pose  that he couldnt have it in the lat spread, here is a pic, draw your own conclusions. ND your a stupid fuck man LOL

[Necrosis]

Nice loose skin and fat on Ronnie's lower back

its not loose skin its wrinkles that are caused by the reflection of photons hitting ronnies back mixing with the black skin pigment know as welfare.

[NarcissisticDeity]

nd cant you see how pointless the quotes are? fuck your a moron. ronnie is better in the comparisons via pictures, thats not debatable, its obvious. then neo is posting quotes which contradict your quotes and yours contradict his.

you have some serious mental issues if you think dorian was harder and bigger then this. he glutes and hams are more conditioned at this bodyweight then dorians have ever been. and talking about size is pointless, ronnie would absolutely dwarf doughian.

Dorian wasn't bigger than that but he was most certainly harder than that , absolutely you're high if you think he's hard in 2003 Ronnie himself said his best Olympia conditioning was 1998 because his conditioning was spot on

And whats with this nonsense Dorian's glutes and hams were more conditioned? again Yates had striated glutes and both muscles of the leg biceps are clearly developed and separated , stop typing blanket statements

look at the pics of Dorian's striated glutes and both muscles of the leg biceps clearly developed and separated

[NarcissisticDeity]

i love this comparison too. one person as nd admits has loose skin that has been acknowledged. yet the other has wrinkles and not loose skin, yet they appear to be mirror images. strange? not to nd, it doesnt exist because he cannot find the quote.

I never admitted loose skin you're full of shit and again where is the loose skin? 

[Necrosis]

Dorian wasn't bigger than that but he was most certainly harder than that , absolutely you're high if you think he's hard in 2003 Ronnie himself said his best Olympia conditioning was 1998 because his conditioning was spot on

And whats with this nonsense Dorian's glutes and hams were more conditioned? again Yates had striated glutes and both muscles of the leg biceps are clearly developed and separated , stop typing blanket statements

look at the pics of Dorian's striated glutes and both muscles of the leg biceps clearly developed and separated

i agree dorian was harder then ronnie from the back and abs then ronnie was at 03 but you're high if you think his arms chest, delts, or quads where. i can post the MM if you want, he destroys dorian, you can fucking see individual fibers and shit.

[fleximus]

I must admit I'm all yates on this....

His physique in terms of proportion and shape is easily better than colemans...

Now dont get me wrong I am biased as I live in England but please ... coleman is a fucking mis-match of parts...

Yates flows...........

I dont know where to look when I look at coleman, I cant work it outhis chest is too low and misformed and look how his abs look like something from the film alien...

Yes... they both had bellys at there worst but look at there lines........ yates has a more sharper dare I say "greek" stature about him.......

Coleman has guns no shit......but yates has abs....... and alat spread like no other...

I remember buying flex a few years back and seeing the best body parts of all time article.... that shot of yates give me chills........

I am going to get flamed here but let me guess the body parts....


Chest - Arnold ( Of course )
Delts - I am guessing here.... Was It Paul De Mayo ( If it wasnt then Maybe It should have been...)
Triceps - Ernie Taylor?
Biceps -Lord Schwarzenegger
Back - Dorian ( Diesel ) Yates
Abs - Shawn Ray
Quads - Blondie.... (The old lee priest)
Hammies...Fuck Knows...
Calves - Mikey Mattarazzo

Help me out...I dont have that mag any more..,.

[NarcissisticDeity]

i agree dorian was harder then ronnie from the back and abs then ronnie was at 03 but you're high if you think his arms chest, delts, or quads where. i can post the MM if you want, he destroys dorian, you can fucking see individual fibers and shit.

( Ronnie ) he was never drier or harder than Dorian.

what part of this did you miss?

[NarcissisticDeity]

heres the clincher, nd said that because dorian had no loose skin in the back crunch pose  that he couldnt have it in the lat spread, here is a pic, draw your own conclusions. ND your a stupid fuck man LOL

lmfao thanks for proving my point moron , he has NO detail what so ever lol I said if he had ANY loose hanging skin his x-mass tree wouldn't be this razor sharp and the picture you post shows Jay with NO sharpness what so ever in his lower back or lower lats LMMFAO talk about a back fire lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

I must admit I'm all yates on this....

His physique in terms of proportion and shape is easily better than colemans...

Now dont get me wrong I am biased as I live in England but please ... coleman is a fucking mis-match of parts...

Yates flows...........

I dont know where to look when I look at coleman, I cant work it outhis chest is too low and misformed and look how his abs look like something from the film alien...

Yes... they both had bellys at there worst but look at there lines........ yates has a more sharper dare I say "greek" stature about him.......

Coleman has guns no shit......but yates has abs....... and alat spread like no other...

I remember buying flex a few years back and seeing the best body parts of all time article.... that shot of yates give me chills........

I am going to get flamed here but let me guess the body parts....


Chest - Arnold ( Of course )
Delts - I am guessing here.... Was It Paul De Mayo ( If it wasnt then Maybe It should have been...)
Triceps - Ernie Taylor?
Biceps -Lord Schwarzenegger
Back - Dorian ( Diesel ) Yates
Abs - Shawn Ray
Quads - Blondie.... (The old lee priest)
Hammies...Fuck Knows...
Calves - Mikey Mattarazzo

Help me out...I dont have that mag any more..,.

Thats from the Flex Magazine with the Coverage from the 1999 Mr Olympia I have this mag lol and ironically  all these guys brag about how great all of Ronnie's parts are and yet he didn't make the list on anything lmfao

[Necrosis]

Dorian wasn't bigger than that but he was most certainly harder than that , absolutely you're high if you think he's hard in 2003 Ronnie himself said his best Olympia conditioning was 1998 because his conditioning was spot on

And whats with this nonsense Dorian's glutes and hams were more conditioned? again Yates had striated glutes and both muscles of the leg biceps are clearly developed and separated , stop typing blanket statements

look at the pics of Dorian's striated glutes and both muscles of the leg biceps clearly developed and separated

not as conditioned, you can see much more seperation in ronnies hams in the picture i posted, and his ham glute tie in is perfect, running superior laterally to inferior medially blending with the hamstring group

[NarcissisticDeity]

not as conditioned, you can see much more seperation in ronnies hams in the picture i posted, and his ham glute tie in is perfect, running superior laterally to inferior medially blending with the hamstring group

Not as conditioned? now you're just being contrary thats nonsense I can see equal if NOT better separation of both muscles of the leg biceps and again his glutes are STRAITED I could see if he didn't have any but get serious and tie-ins are just as good

[Hulkster]

( Ronnie ) he was never drier or harder than Dorian.

what part of this did you miss?

what part of 1500+ pages of visual evidence proving this quote WRONG did you miss?

 

holy fuck.

[NarcissisticDeity]

what part of 1500+ pages of visual evidence proving this quote WRONG did you miss?

 

holy fuck.

Hulkster, I have one question for you? .... Were you there in Long Beach in 97?  Because I was.  AND I was there in 93 & 95 in Atlanta & 96 in Chicago.  It's been said a million times. Yates has a Thickness & density from every angle that had to be seen in person, and that NOBODY else had.

I think Milos is awesome. I would LOVE to have his body, but Yates smoked everybody in the totality of ALL poses.  From the side & from the back, yates crushed everybody.

Unless you were there, you cannot really say accurately.  BTW, Demilia gave me tickets right behind the judges every year.

Not flaming, but Yates reigned supreme.. YES. HIS GUT was sticking out in 97 & Nasser looked as good, or maybe a hair better from the front in 97, but when they turned to the side & rear, DORIAN ruled again.

You're fucking owned lol sucker

[Hulkster]

um...no one was THERE when Ronnie 99 stood next to 93 dorian dumbass.

it has never happened.

 

pics are the best we have, and its game over for dorian, even in the conditioning department:

[Hulkster]

LOL look at  that...oh but wait! ronnie was never as hard or dry as dorian LOL

 

this is stupid.

[NarcissisticDeity]

um...no one was THERE when Ronnie 99 stood next to 93 dorian dumbass.

it has never happened.

 

pics are the best we have, and its game over for dorian, even in the conditioning department:

No , no quotes are the best we have especially when pictures DO NOT tell the whole story and what do the quotes say?

Hulkster, I have one question for you? .... Were you there in Long Beach in 97?  Because I was.  AND I was there in 93 & 95 in Atlanta & 96 in Chicago.  It's been said a million times. Yates has a Thickness & density from every angle that had to be seen in person, and that NOBODY else had.

I think Milos is awesome. I would LOVE to have his body, but Yates smoked everybody in the totality of ALL poses.  From the side & from the back, yates crushed everybody.

Unless you were there, you cannot really say accurately.  BTW, Demilia gave me tickets right behind the judges every year.

Not flaming, but Yates reigned supreme.. YES. HIS GUT was sticking out in 97 & Nasser looked as good, or maybe a hair better from the front in 97, but when they turned to the side & rear, DORIAN ruled again.

hile I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

he was NEVER as hard or dry as Dorian LMFAO you're a loser kid and Oh By the way McGough was at BOTH the Olympias .

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL look at  that...oh but wait! ronnie was never as hard or dry as dorian LOL

 

this is stupid.

You're right its stupid , stupid of you to think you know more than people who were actually there . you keep typing Yates is getting owned by in reality you're getting owned by everyone who was there and oh BTW Dorian was at the 1999 Mr Olympia and he still said he has better conditioning than Ronnie , now what? LMFAO oh and he's a IFBB judge lol

[Hulkster]

LOL hundreds of pics don't tell the whole story, but a few quotes from someone who has been shown to contradict himself does..especially given that the hundreds of pics indicate that his 'opinions' are flat out WRONG.

LOL

 

sure ND. you show your lack of intelligence if you think that makes any sense at all..

 

[NeoSeminole]

Ronnie Coleman said his best Olympia was his first and why? because his conditioning was ' spot-on ' see the Peter McGough quote on Ronnie's conditioning vs previous showings and why his high water mark for conditioning is 1998/2001 and NOT 2003 , oh and while you're at it see this quote

no offense to the guy, but I don't give a shit what Ronnie thinks was his best showing. He isn't exactly what I consider a mental giant.

smooth my ass his conditioning pre-contest was good enough to be in the top three of that years Olympia according to Kevin Horton and what does McGough have to say?

Oh rock-hard , looks like Neo assessment on Dorian's conditioning is once again wrong . smooth my ass it's called density

Mike Matarazzo - Flex, January 2004

"Ronnie had so much dense muscle that it looked as though his skin could no longer hold it and he'd explode."

And what do they look at in the symmetry round? just a mirror image? Ummmmm NO they look at all of it so  its part and parcel of symmetry so nice try and Ronnie's symmetry in the context you cling to isn't better you think is calves are mirror images of each other? you think his arms are? or course not noting on the human body is a mirror image

ha ha ha, so now you think you know more about bodybuilding than Dorian? Go home, son.

[Hulkster]

You're right its stupid , stupid of you to think you know more than people who were actually there . you keep typing Yates is getting owned by in reality you're getting owned by everyone who was there and oh BTW Dorian was at the 1999 Mr Olympia and he still said he has better conditioning than Ronnie , now what? LMFAO oh and he's a IFBB judge lol

you are damn right its stupid.

it is stupid of you to think that one quote with out ANY Visual evidence to confirm it made by someone who has made contradictory quotes trumps dozens and dozens of pics that show that the quotes are incorrect in the first place..

think about it for a minute..

 

try and use that little brain just for one second. please?

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL hundreds of pics don't tell the whole story, but a few quotes from someone who has been shown to contradict himself does..especially given that the hundreds of pics indicate that his 'opinions' are flat out WRONG.

LOL

 

sure ND. you show your lack of intelligence if you think that makes any sense at all..

 

His quotes don't contradict each other you're a liar plain & simple , again you just got owned by another eyewitness

[Hulkster]

His quotes don't contradict each other you're a liar plain & simple , again you just got owned by another eyewitness

no, I am not a liar.

you just don't understand english.

and besides, its not just peters quotes.

there are quotes on both sides of the argument from eyewitnesses.

So, which side is right?

the side with the visual evidence to support the quote.

you do not have this.

the ronnie side does.

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

no offense to the guy, but I don't give a shit what Ronnie thinks was his best showing. He isn't exactly what I consider a mental giant.



Mike Matarazzo - Flex, January 2004

"Ronnie had so much dense muscle that it looked as though his skin could no longer hold it and he'd explode."

ha ha ha, so now you think you know more about bodybuilding than Dorian? Go home, son.

no offense to the guy, but I don't give a shit what Ronnie thinks was his best showing. He isn't exactly what I consider a mental giant.

This will haunt you in a moment lol and according to you he's the " Greatest Mr Olympia " ever I think he would know what his best year was  and he's college educated as well and the irony of you questioning his intelligence LMFAO

Mike Matarazzo - Flex, January 2004

"Ronnie had so much dense muscle that it looked as though his skin could no longer hold it and he'd explode."

he did have a lot of dense muscle as well as a lot of fat and water lol again McGough and Ronnie himself state the obvious his conditioning left a lot to be desired compare to previous showings NEVER MIND Dorian Yates himself

ha ha ha, so now you think you know more about bodybuilding than Dorian? Go home, son.

the same guy who is going to tell Ronnie what his best year was LMFAO I told you this would haunt you and again symmetry is a broad term in bodybuilding I've more than proven my case on this and you never answered the question how could Dorian win every single symmetry round with a perfect score if his symmetry sucked? lol and didn't I school you ass before by posting this definition?

Symmetry - The shape or general outline of a person's body, as when seen in silhouette. If you have good sym-metry, you will have relatively wide shoulders, flaring lats, a small waist-hip structure, and generally small joints.

and you claimed I made it up? lol I will own you at every turn for the simple fact you don't know shit about competitive bodybuilding kid.

[NarcissisticDeity]

no, I am not a liar.

you just don't understand english.

and besides, its not just peters quotes.

there are quotes on both sides of the argument from eyewitnesses.

So, which side is right?

the side with the visual evidence to support the quote.

you do not have this.

the ronnie side does.

 

LMFAO the quotes Neo posted all in reference to his competition that particular year , show me the quote that says Dorian was never as dry or as hard as Ronnie , my quotes are specific to the topic at hand yours are how Ronnie dominated his ho-hum competition on a given year

you're an idiot and your opinion is garbage compared to someone who was there thats the end of it . you're a simple person with limited abilities and your biased little internet-fan-boy opinion will never prove people who were actually there you know live and in person wrong .

Hulkster = owned

JohnnyTosh GetBig 12-20-07

Hulkster, I have one question for you? .... Were you there in Long Beach in 97?  Because I was.  AND I was there in 93 & 95 in Atlanta & 96 in Chicago.  It's been said a million times. Yates has a Thickness & density from every angle that had to be seen in person, and that NOBODY else had.

I think Milos is awesome. I would LOVE to have his body, but Yates smoked everybody in the totality of ALL poses.  From the side & from the back, yates crushed everybody.

Unless you were there, you cannot really say accurately.  BTW, Demilia gave me tickets right behind the judges every year.

Not flaming, but Yates reigned supreme.. YES. HIS GUT was sticking out in 97 & Nasser looked as good, or maybe a hair better from the front in 97, but when they turned to the side & rear, DORIAN ruled again.

[NarcissisticDeity]

review of mr. olympia 1999, january 2000, page  90:

257 pounds, a good seven pounds heavier than last year and the clear winner, ALTHOUGH NOT AS BONE DRY OR AS ROCK HARD IN 98.  In comparison to 98, his thighs are enourmous with a greater sweep and his front delts have improved; plus the pec anomaly (gyno) is no longer present.

Impressive split biceps.  An awesome back double biceps on which muscle fights with muscle to hang onto his frame.  A big, big lat spead promted Dorian "backman" yates to comment, "ronnie looks like a cartoon character".  when doing back poses, ronnie would hitch up his trunks to expose ripped glutes.


Ronnie Coleman what was your best Olympia?

I would have to say my first one , because my conditioning was spot-on