Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[beefcakeblake]

Probably the best arm shot of Ronnie ever

 prob best arm shot ever(inside arm), let alone ronnie.

[Shockwave]

the excuses never end, do they??

Fucking what excuse? If we posted a pic of Ronnie just standing there with his gut hanging out, you'd freak out.
And everyone knows, for every 1 Gut pic of Dorian, theres 3 of Ronnie.

[Royal Lion]

Those are all impressive shots of Ronnie.  The striated tricep is nuts as is his quad from the side.  I am not going to be nor have I ever been ignorant and claimed that he lacked conditioning during his peak years.  However, I still think Dorian equaled or likely surpassed it.
  
Here are the pics that best illustrate Doz's conditioning imo.  

I think Dorian had still had better tris; I think Doz's glutes/hams equally as dry/striated/separated; Ronnie had the best bis ever imo so no need to argue that one; as for delts, Ronnie's tie-ins were also probably the best ever.  However, for overall delts, I think Dorian had equal striations/dryness.  I think Doz also equaled Ronnie in quad separation.  Back is close...could go either way.  Abs/calves-clearly Doz.

[beefcakeblake]

another reason why he looks so good in that 99 shot is that he is actually hitting the pose properly - something he never seems to be able to do.

even in the AC shot I posted look: his arms are way too far foward.

ronnie has always been a terrible poser. world's best physique ever, but couldn't pose worth shit.

except the most muscular pose.

true, thats one reason i see judges going with doz(if close), he presented himself better.

Like a ambassador of the sport is supposed to, ronnie posed like a ret, and handled himself as such.

heck he even talked like one.lol

[Shockwave]

true, thats one reason i see judges going with doz(if close), he presented himself better.

Like a ambassador of the sport is supposed to, ronnie posed like a ret, and handled himself as such.

heck he even talked like one.lol

Thats a good point. Dorian was an excellent Poser, and that is a huge part of the judging.
Ronnie was a mediocre poser, at best.

[Royal Lion]

More of Doz...

[Hulkster]

I think dorian, along with Arnold, were the best at avoiding shots that showed their weaknesses.

thats why you saw so many one armed dorian shots post tear, when he hit an ab shot he showed his inner thigh (rods) because his quads looked bad from the front etc etc.

[beefcakeblake]

I think dorian, along with Arnold, were the best at avoiding shots that showed their weaknesses.

thats why you saw so many one armed dorian shots post tear, when he hit an ab shot he showed his inner thigh (rods) because his quads looked bad from the front etc etc.

i heard doz did some sick ass weight for his legs, i wonder why he was never able to grow his quads as big as say nasser or ronnie, prob gens.

[FREAKgeek]

throw this again in there too:

[beefcakeblake]

throw this again in there too:

nah for this pic, although a crazy mofo pic, it looks almost worked on(sharpened).

but ronnie did look crazy from the back that year so who knows??

[Royal Lion]

Hulkster, I have a serious question for you.  We all know that you think Ronnie is the GOAT.  However, I wonder where you rank Dorian?  With many of your lame remarks it seems that you somehow think he never deserved his accomplishments or recognition as one of the best ever.  Where would you rank him on your all time greatest list?

[Shockwave]

throw this again in there too:

98. Ronnies best showing.

[NeoSeminole]

98. Ronnies best showing.

he did look pretty good

[Royal Lion]

It's a shame we never got to see them compete against each other at their best...

[Shockwave]

It's a shame we never got to see them compete against each other at their best...

Woulda been an epic battle, no doubt.
2 Greats.

[beefcakeblake]

damm by 2004 ronnies left lat was kinda fucked.

[Shockwave]

damm by 2004 ronnies left lat was kinda fucked.

Lol. Hes half turned away from the camera dude.
Thats Hulkster status. Lol.
Half Dorian half turned and not posed and claim victory.

[beefcakeblake]

Lol. Hes half turned away from the camera dude.
Thats Hulkster status. Lol.
Half Dorian half turned and not posed and claim victory.

lmao, dude look at his left lat it just looks funny, maybs it's just the pic, but you can see it starting to happen.
just saw it and wanted to point it out.

[RocketSwitch625]

damm by 2004 ronnies left lat was kinda fucked.

His conditioning appeared to be way off too that year. The others appear to be pwning him on conditioning there, especially in the upper and lower back areas.

[Hulkster]

Hulkster, I have a serious question for you.  We all know that you think Ronnie is the GOAT.  However, I wonder where you rank Dorian?  With many of your lame remarks it seems that you somehow think he never deserved his accomplishments or recognition as one of the best ever.  Where would you rank him on your all time greatest list?

below Ronnie

in all seriousness, I thought he looked pretty good pre tear. not as good as ronnie became, but still great.

however, his post tear wins and scores really tarnished his reputation I think.

he never looked the same afte that - and it wasn't just the arm. his whole  physique suffered as a result of the tear and the effect it had on his training.

hell, look no farther than 93 vs 95 - even though he was dry in 95, he still looked a lot better in 93.

[Hulkster]

notice how not only did his arms (both) go down hill (obviously) after the tear, but his quads never looked as good either.

[RocketSwitch625]

below Ronnie

in all seriousness, I thought he looked pretty good pre tear. not as good as ronnie became, but still great.

however, his post tear wins and scores really tarnished his reputation I think.

he never looked the same afte that - and it wasn't just the arm. his whole  physique suffered as a result of the tear and the effect it had on his training.

hell, look no farther than 93 vs 95 - even though he was dry in 95, he still looked a lot better in 93.

It's the lighting you idiot. Any knob-head can tell that the lighting was a lot brighter at the 95 Olympia which made all the white bodybuilders look different. It did nothing to help the way they looked on stage put it that way. The lighting is never identical two years in a row at a bodybuilding contest even though it probably should be. Owned again Hulkster.

[beefcakeblake]

below Ronnie

in all seriousness, I thought he looked pretty good pre tear. not as good as ronnie became, but still great.

however, his post tear wins and scores really tarnished his reputation I think.

he never looked the same afte that - and it wasn't just the arm. his whole  physique suffered as a result of the tear and the effect it had on his training.

hell, look no farther than 93 vs 95 - even though he was dry in 95, he still looked a lot better in 93.

So in your view 2nd(93) greatest of all time??

[Danimal77]

below Ronnie

in all seriousness, I thought he looked pretty good pre tear. not as good as ronnie became, but still great.

however, his post tear wins and scores really tarnished his reputation I think.

he never looked the same afte that - and it wasn't just the arm. his whole  physique suffered as a result of the tear and the effect it had on his training.

hell, look no farther than 93 vs 95 - even though he was dry in 95, he still looked a lot better in 93.

I actually fully agree with this. '93 was his best year. It SMASHES his '95 physique. He just had that WOW factor in 1993. In 1995, I wasn't that impressed. I know I'll be in the minority in this, but I actually preferred what he brought to table in 1994, than I did in 1995.

[JP_RC]

I don't understand you guys talking about "selective" pics. Most of those pics are not selective, they just show Ronnie was better.
Since you Dorian fans insist his best was 1995 due to his "muscular bulk", take a look at these two videos and compare

Dorian Yates at the 1995 Olympia prejudging:

http://video.google.com.bo/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067&ei=-CiMS9fMO4SHlgfCpPT_Aw&q=mr+olympia+1995&hl=es#

Ronnie Coleman at the 1999 Olympia prejudging:

Again, Ronnie at his best would be too much for Dorian.