Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[JP_RC]

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Dorian Yates 1993 Olympia:

Ronnie Coleman 1999 Olympia:

[Royal Lion]

I don't understand you guys talking about "selective" pics. Most of those pics are not selective, they just show Ronnie was better.
Since you Dorian fans insist his best was 1995 due to his "muscular bulk", take a look at these two videos and compare

Dorian Yates at the 1995 Olympia prejudging:

http://video.google.com.bo/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067&ei=-CiMS9fMO4SHlgfCpPT_Aw&q=mr+olympia+1995&hl=es#

Ronnie Coleman at the 1999 Olympia prejudging:

Again, Ronnie at his best would be too much for Dorian.

I guess this is where the subjectivity comes in, and we'll have to agree to disagree.  Dorian absolutely owns the 95 lineup in that video.  Levrone, Ray, and Nasser are nowhere near him in terms of size, completeness, and conditioning.  This is why videos are so much better than pics -- Dorian wins every pose there.  Yes, Ronnie also easily won 99.  But I just don't see you one can say it wouldn't be close between the two. 

Hulkster, I would hope this video changes your opinion re 95...the opinion you made based on a couple of pics.    In all seriousness, I wonder what you think if you watch the 95 prejudging vid.

[JP_RC]

Both not at their bests, Ronnie still has it over Dorian

Dorian 1994

Ronnie 2000

[beefcakeblake]

Both not at their bests, Ronnie still has it over Dorian

Dorian 1994

Ronnie 2000

lmao i see dorian destroying ronnie in the vids, sorry lmao man look how soft ronnie looks in the vid compared to dorian its not even close, dorians even bigger to, wow. I'm not sure what you look at???

[beefcakeblake]

I don't understand you guys talking about "selective" pics. Most of those pics are not selective, they just show Ronnie was better.
Since you Dorian fans insist his best was 1995 due to his "muscular bulk", take a look at these two videos and compare

Dorian Yates at the 1995 Olympia prejudging:

http://video.google.com.bo/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067&ei=-CiMS9fMO4SHlgfCpPT_Aw&q=mr+olympia+1995&hl=es#

Ronnie Coleman at the 1999 Olympia prejudging:

Again, Ronnie at his best would be too much for Dorian.

these vids really show the how much harder and more conditioned overall Dorian was. ronnies muscle looks like lumps of wet dog shit slabbed on to his body.

[JP_RC]

lmao i see dorian destroying ronnie in the vids, sorry lmao man look how soft ronnie looks in the vid compared to dorian its not even close, dorians even bigger to, wow. I'm not sure what you look at???

Sorry, I don't see it like you.

Ronnie is bigger, at least he looks bigger. I don't care about numbers and Dorian being heavier.
Ronnie is too much for Dorian from the front here.

[JP_RC]

these vids really show the how much harder and more conditioned overall Dorian was. ronnies muscle looks like lumps of wet dog shit slabbed on to his body.

You probably are a big, die-hard and biased Dorian fan to say something like that. (judging from avatar, you must be)

Ronnie was just as conditioned as Dorian.

Dorian had a slight density and maybe dryness advantage, but Ronnie had much better striations, separation and detail.
Since all of these show how good someone is in conditioning, I would say they are pretty equal.

Dorian had better calves and abs, other than that Ronnie is destroying him.

Don't give me the muscular bulk thing or Dorian being heavier, because Ronnie looks much bigger.
Look at the biceps, triceps, delts, chest, quads, and hams. Ronnie's>Dorian's

Even Ronnie's back looks wider in relation to his waste and has a much better taper. Check the BDB, absolutely no taper on Dorian.

I stand by my view, Ronnie's best would be too much for Dorian' best.

[Shockwave]

You probably are a big, die-hard and biased Dorian fan to say something like that. (judging from avatar, you must be)

Ronnie was just as conditioned as Dorian.

Dorian had a slight density and maybe dryness advantage, but Ronnie had much better striations, separation and detail.
Since all of these show how good someone is in conditioning, I would say they are pretty equal.

Dorian had better calves and abs, other than that Ronnie is destroying him.

Don't give me the muscular bulk thing or Dorian being heavier, because Ronnie looks much bigger.
Look at the biceps, triceps, delts, chest, quads, and hams. Ronnie's>Dorian's

Even Ronnie's back looks wider in relation to his waste and has a much better taper. Check the BDB, absolutely no taper on Dorian.

I stand by my view, Ronnie's best would be too much for Dorian' best.

heres the thing... You have exactly the same view as Hulkster... If someones opinion is the flipped side of yours, they have to be a Dorian biased... You dont understand, that we simply prefer and in my case think the judges would go with Dorian. You are Ronnie Biased, just as much as we are Dorian biased. For some reason you guys don't see it. You think youre being objective and were being biased, when quite frankly we are both being biased. From my understanding of how the Judging system works, Dorian is the one who would walk away with the sandow... I simply seem him as more complete, equally if not better conditioned, and slightly larger than Ronnie.

[Mr Nobody]

lmao i see dorian destroying ronnie in the vids, sorry lmao man look how soft ronnie looks in the vid compared to dorian its not even close, dorians even bigger to, wow. I'm not sure what you look at???

Ronnie looks soft here but huge no doubt.

[delta9mda]

supposedly Yates worst year? 1994 wasn't even close.

[delta9mda]

"off" Yates wins

[delta9mda]

hardness, paper thin skin and glute striations hulkster loves.

[Royal Lion]

"off" Yates wins

Dang impressive considering he had just torn his bicep and couldn't even train hard leading up to the show.  

[Royal Lion]

hardness, paper thin skin and glute striations hulkster loves.

Talk about onion skin...that shot is sick!  I know Doz wasn't his fullest in 96, but he nailed his conditioning that year.

[delta9mda]

Talk about onion skin...that shot is sick!  I know Doz wasn't his fullest in 96, but he nailed his conditioning that year.

separation, striation, condition, hardness, balance and proportion. its all here.

i mean seriously.

[JP_RC]

heres the thing... You have exactly the same view as Hulkster... If someones opinion is the flipped side of yours, they have to be a Dorian biased... You dont understand, that we simply prefer and in my case think the judges would go with Dorian. You are Ronnie Biased, just as much as we are Dorian biased. For some reason you guys don't see it. You think youre being objective and were being biased, when quite frankly we are both being biased. From my understanding of how the Judging system works, Dorian is the one who would walk away with the sandow... I simply seem him as more complete, equally if not better conditioned, and slightly larger than Ronnie.

When someone writes something like: "ronnies muscle looks like lumps of wet dog shit slabbed on to his body." from his 1999 video, I start to think he is a little biased for Dorian. I never said Dorian sucked in 1993 or 1995 by the way, I just say Ronnie in 1999 is better.

I guess we will never agree on this subject just like the Shawn vs Dorian one in another thread.

[beefcakeblake]

You probably are a big, die-hard and biased Dorian fan to say something like that. (judging from avatar, you must be)

Ronnie was just as conditioned as Dorian.

Dorian had a slight density and maybe dryness advantage, but Ronnie had much better striations, separation and detail.
Since all of these show how good someone is in conditioning, I would say they are pretty equal.

Dorian had better calves and abs, other than that Ronnie is destroying him.

Don't give me the muscular bulk thing or Dorian being heavier, because Ronnie looks much bigger.
Look at the biceps, triceps, delts, chest, quads, and hams. Ronnie's>Dorian's

Even Ronnie's back looks wider in relation to his waste and has a much better taper. Check the BDB, absolutely no taper on Dorian.

I stand by my view, Ronnie's best would be too much for Dorian' best.

ok maybe i was going to far with the lumps of dog shit thing but it seems to me were both biased(ex of what you said :even at their best ronnie is to much). 

[JP_RC]

Dorian in 1996? Great in all the back poses, from the front not so much.

Any way another video comparison

Dorian Yates 1996 Olympia and British Grand Prix:

Ronnie Coleman 1999 Olympia and British Grand Prix:

[Mr Nobody]

supposedly Yates worst year? 1994 wasn't even close.

Nice shots right there delta who can beat that shit? Not even anyone today.

[Hulkster]

Dorian in 1996? Great in all the back poses, from the front not so much.

Any way another video comparison

Dorian Yates 1996 Olympia and British Grand Prix:

Ronnie Coleman 1999 Olympia and British Grand Prix:

another ronnie massacre. like always when comparing ronnie 99 to Yates Any Year..

that shot of ronnie standing beside nasser in the 'relaxed' shot is unreal. no one has ever looked that good.

[Hulkster]

not to mention that back double bi from the GP show with flex.

his back is so thick, yet cut at the same time. makes dorian's look so incredibly thin..

[TRIX]

dorians pics and videos all have favourable lighting/picture quality

[delta9mda]

dorians pics and videos all have favourable lighting/picture quality

the vids are the vids how can there be favorable lighting?

[beefcakeblake]

another Ronnie massacre. like always when comparing Ronnie 99 to Yates Any Year..

that shot of Ronnie standing beside Nasser in the 'relaxed' shot is unreal. no one has ever looked that good.

Nasser looked really good in standing relaxed shot, I think Nasser's front relaxed shot is better then Coleman's there. what happened to Nasser's quads they even looked smaller then flex's that year.

dorians pics and videos all have favourable lighting/picture quality

lmao ret, Ronnie's vids that were posted were the ones that have the bright overcast lighting creating a more dramatic look on the muscles.

In Dorian's vids the whole stage is bright washing out definition easier.

[NeoSeminole]

separation, striation, condition, hardness, balance and proportion. its all here.

how come when Dorian has definition and hardness, it's the result of 'great conditioning' but when it pertains to Ronnie, it's 'genetic?'