Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Shockwave]

put Levrone's upper body on him and he would look so much better. Dorian's chest is very underwhelming in the side poses

brah, c'mon. It seriously looks like Dorian has boobs in that pic. Where are the square pecs? Where did his upper chest go?

Thereby implying, you wanted Dorian's chest to look like Levrones, which in the pics I posted, is thinner and flatter. 

[RocketSwitch625]

Overall I don't think Lee had better legs than Dorian. He did have better quad development and slightly better proportions in quads-calves relation.
The rest goes to Dorian, overall he had better legs.

Short legs, shapeless calves, long torso and arms that over-power everything else. What more could the Yates haters ask for? LOL

[NeoSeminole]

Thereby implying, you wanted Dorian's chest to look like Levrones, which in the pics I posted, is thinner and flatter.

epic avoidance to save face

Holy shit you guys are fucking blind. Trying to argue that levrones flat chest is somehow thicker than Dorians, and that Shawn Ray has better calves

I challenge you to find one quote where we said Levrone's chest is thicker or Shawn Ray has better calves. Go on, I dare you.

still waiting for those quotes that explicitly say Levrone had a thicker chest or Shawn had better calves

[Shockwave]

epic avoidance to save face

still waiting for those quotes that explicitly say Levrone had a thicker chest or Shawn had better calves

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I want you to point out how Im wrong, when you used Levrone for comparison, and the only difference is Levrone's chest is thinner and flatter? You're arguing semantics and you know it, You think your on to something here, but all youve succeeded in doing is pointing out that you don't know shit, that your opinion is that Dorians chest should be thinner and flatter. You're the one who used Levrone for the comparison, not me.

[NeoSeminole]

I want you to point out how Im wrong, when you used Levrone for comparison, and the only difference is Levrone's chest is thinner and flatter? You're arguing semantics and you know it, You think your on to something here, but all youve succeeded in doing is pointing out that you don't know shit, that your opinion is that Dorians chest should be thinner and flatter. You're the one who used Levrone for the comparison, not me.

sorry brah, it doesn't work that way. It would be like me saying "you're a lying, racist, ignorant motherf*cker. Now prove me wrong."

you're the one who put words in our mouth. I know exactly what I said. Hence I asked you to show us where. Now you're trying to save face.

still waiting for those quotes

[Shockwave]

sorry brah, it doesn't work that way. It would be like me saying "you're a lying, racist, ignorant motherf*cker. Now prove me wrong."

you're the one who put words in our mouth. I know exactly what I said. Hence I asked you to show us where. Now you're trying to save face.

still waiting for those quotes

So then what are you trying to get at? Enlighten me, rather than directing away from what you were saying.
Ill be the first to admit you never said that verbatim, as soon as you admit you insinuated that you want Dorian to have a flatter, thinner chest, based on the Levrone Dorian comparison you commented on.

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[NeoSeminole]

So then what are you trying to get at? Enlighten me, rather than directing away from what you were saying.

brah, I've already explained this like 3 times. Levrone has squarer pecs and better balance between his upper and lower chest. If you want me to keep going, his delts and arms also look better than Dorian's hence my comment about putting his upper body on Dorian in the side chest pose. Nowhere did I say Levrone has thicker pecs - ever.

[Royal Lion]

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[Shockwave]

brah, I've already explained this like 3 times. Levrone has squarer pecs and better balance between his upper and lower chest. If you want me to keep going, his delts and arms also look better than Dorian's hence my comment about putting his upper body on Dorian in the side chest pose. Nowhere did I say Levrone has thicker pecs - ever.

Yup. I really see what your talking about here brah.
Neo usually I respect your opinion but I think youre way off base with this one.

[RocketSwitch625]

Yup. I really see what your talking about here brah.
Neo usually I respect your opinion but I think youre way off base with this one.

Side shots like this tell a completely different story.

[NeoSeminole]

Yup. I really see what your talking about here brah.
Neo usually I respect your opinion but I think youre way off base with this one.

lmao, how does posting a side relaxed pose disprove what I said about the side chest?

[Shockwave]

lmao, how does posting a side relaxed pose disprove what I said about the side chest?

You werent being pose specific. Dont even try that shit.

put Levrone's upper body on him and he would look so much better. Dorian's chest is very underwhelming in the side poses

You were responding to a slew of side pics posted by Royal Lion.
No where, did you state, Side Chest.
See, now im arguing semantics.

[NeoSeminole]

You werent being pose specific. Dont even try that shit.You were responding to a slew of side pics posted by Royal Lion.

exactly, go back and look. I find it amusing that you spent the time to reproduce my original quote but you didn't bother to look at the post I was responding to. Royal Lion posted pics of Dorian and Levrone hitting the side chest and side triceps. I don't see the side relaxed pose anywhere.

[Shockwave]

exactly, go back and look. I find it amusing that you spent the time to reproduce my original quote but you didn't bother to look at the post I was responding to. Royal Lion posted pics of Dorian and Levrone hitting the side chest and side triceps. I don't see the side relaxed pose anywhere.

yeah, like I said now im arguing semantics. 
Now as far as Side chest specific, Levrone  hits the pose differently than Dorian.
And if you really like Levrone's chest in the side chest better, you're saying you like a thinner, flatter, longer pec than the one Dorian displays, correct?

[delta9mda]

hahaha, ND caught in another lie

he claims that Peter McGough was present when Dorian's famous black-and-white sock pics were taken. However, take a look at these quotes

Dorian Yates - Bodybuilding.com Interview

"They were actually for my own records so they were not supposed to be released and that explains why I'm standing there in my underpants and socks. I had just stripped off after training. They were just for my own records to look back on. I took them in the same spot I did the previous year and then Kevin Horton took them in to Peter McGough. Of course they became probably the most famous physique photos ever; they are like iconic now."

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dorian_yates_interview_1993_gym_shots.htm

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

pete was there, feel the owning.

yes i am posting again as you are ignoring it.

[NeoSeminole]

pete was there, feel the owning.

yes i am posting again as you are ignoring it.

brah, how am I ignoring you? lol

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[delta9mda]

brah, how am I ignoring you? lol

stirring the pot my truce thread brother

[JP_RC]

Short legs, shapeless calves, long torso and arms that over-power everything else. What more could the Yates haters ask for? LOL

lol.

I never said Lee Priest was better than Dorian overall. I just used Lee as an example of someone who's calves are developed in good proportion to his quads and showed why his quads alone are better developed in a sense that he actually has a good vastus lateralis.

Stop implying I'm saying things that I'm actually not.

The things you listed, Lee's overall structural and proportional flaws, are the exact reasons why Dorian is better than him. I never said the contrary.

I'm still waiting for you to say why you used selective pics to show how Dorian "owned" Shawn.

[Cleanest Natural]

This thread could be great material for psychiatrists 

[JP_RC]

Jp_Rc Said Shawn Ray has better balance between his upper legs and calves, albeit better calves. When I say someones bodyparts are better than someone elses', I include balance in my analysis. I dont just look at a bodypart and grade it, bodybuilding isnt judged like that. 

Sure, balance is included while analyzing a whole and complete physique, which is why I said before that Shawn should've beaten Yates a couple of occasions and its why I think Shawn had a more complete physique than Dorian.

But, that doesn't imply that Shawn had better calves than Dorian, taking the calves alone. Maybe you think differently, but I also like to grade bodyparts alone. Not to show you had the better overall physique, but only to show who had a much better developed and shaped bodypart.
So, I never tried to imply that Shawn's calves were better developed or shaped than Dorian's.

[RocketSwitch625]

Coleman looks like a bloated mess in that shot. What does posting such a shitty pic prove?

[delta9mda]

"they" think he is owning a retired Yates.

[RocketSwitch625]

"they" think he is owning a retired Yates.

Funny considering how this thread all started with a retired Yates owing the shit out of their ebony hero.