Cognitive tests anyone?

[LurkerNoMore]

Seemed to be a rage just two months ago with the red hats.  Now just crickets.  Why is that?   

He is a direct reflection of his supporters.  As evident by replies on this board.

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'Incoherent word salad': Trump stumbles when asked how he'd tackle child care

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=%27Incoherent+word+salad%27%3A+Trump+stumbles+when+asked+how+he%27d+tackle+child+care

Donald Trump stumbled through a question about his child care plan on Thursday when asked if he'd prioritize the issue and how he would handle it if elected president.

The GOP presidential nominee's full response fell short of offering a coherent vision or policy for how he'd address child care needs, as he pivoted to promoting his proposed tariffs on imported goods to the U.S. and touting the revenue they would bring in.

Asked if he would “commit to prioritizing legislation to make child care affordable” and “what specific piece of legislation” he would support during a Q&A session at the Economic Club of New York Thursday, Trump said:

“Well, I would do that, and we’re sitting down. You know, I was somebody — we had, Senator Marco Rubio, and my daughter Ivanka, was so impactful on that issue. It’s a very important issue.

"But I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I’m talking about — that, because look, child care is child care, couldn’t — you know, there’s something — you have to have it in this country. You have to have it. But when you talk about those numbers, compared to the kind of numbers that I’m talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that they’re not used to. But they’ll get used to it very quickly. And it’s not going to stop them from doing business with us. But they’ll have a very substantial tax when they send product into our country. Those numbers are so much bigger than any numbers that we’re talking about, including child care, that it’s going to take care. We’re going to have — I look forward to having no deficits within a fairly short period of time, coupled with the reductions that I told you about on waste and fraud and all of the other things that are going on in our country.

"Because I have to stay with child care. I want to stay with child care. But those numbers are small relative to the kind of economic numbers that I’m talking about, including growth, but growth also headed up by what the plan is that I just — that I just told you about. We’re going to be taking in trillions of dollars. And as much as child care is talked about as being expensive, it’s, relatively speaking, not very expensive compared to the kind of numbers will be taking in.

"We’re going to make this into an incredible country that can afford to take care of its people. And then we’ll worry about the rest of the world. Let’s help other people. But we’re going to take care of our country first. This is about America first. It’s about make America great again. We have to do it because right now, we’re a failing nation. So we’ll take care of it. Thank you. Very good question. Thank you.”

Trump's response went viral online after the clip and transcript were shared, sparking criticism from the campaign of Democratic presidential rival Kamala Harris and leaving policy experts across the ideological spectrum baffled.

“Somewhere in that incoherent word salad was a claim that the proposed tariffs could both balance the budget and pay for free child care across the country, which is of course mathematically absurd,” said Brian Riedl, an economic policy expert with the conservative Manhattan Institute and a former policy adviser to prominent Republicans. “Trump sounded like the student who hadn’t studied for the test and was making up numbers.”

The Harris campaign responded by attacking Trump's tariffs while highlighting her proposals to expand the child tax credit.

“Billionaire-bought Donald Trump’s ‘plan’ for making child care more affordable is to impose a $3,900 tax hike on middle class families,” Harris campaign spokesperson Joseph Costello said, citing estimates from two think tanks on the impact of Trump's tariff plan. “The American people deserve a President who will actually cut costs for them, like Vice President Harris’ plan to bring back a $3,600 Child Tax Credit for working families and an expanded $6,000 tax cut for families with newborn children.”

The Harris proposal is less aggressive than what the Biden White House has endorsed for families with children, which includes capping child care expenses for the middle class at 7% of income, as well as universal preschool. The Harris campaign didn't respond when asked if she'd push for those provisions if elected president.

White House spokesperson Andrew Bates mocked Trump's answer during a Friday interview on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."

“If you have any idea what the hell that answer means, you’re a better detective than I am,” Bates said, before citing analyses by nonpartisan experts that Trump's tariffs would limit economic growth.

Reshma Saujani, who asked Trump the child care question at the Economic Club of New York, told NBC News after the event that the former president's answer “kind of blew my mind.”

“He basically said that child care was not that expensive or that tariffs would solve it,” said Saujani, who is a member of the board and said the club had invited her to ask Trump a question. “That demonstrates to me how out of touch he really is. If you’re talking to parents and moms and families on the campaign trail, they’re talking about child care and the cost of it.”

In her question to Trump, Saujani, a founder of the groups Moms First and Girls Who Code, cited statistics showing that child care costs a total of $122 billion a year and described it as “one of the most urgent economic issues facing our country.”

She asked him to mention a specific piece of legislation he would advance to address the problem.

Trump did not answer her directly. Instead, he talked about the amount of money that would come into the U.S. through tariffs on foreign countries. He seemed to be suggesting that those sums could more than pay for child care needs, although he did not outline a plan for how the government should cover them.

For her part, Saujani believes Trump was making a different point that she called “shocking”: that the cost of child care is not that a big problem for the U.S. when compared to the sums involved in tariff collection.

Asked to clarify his response, Trump spokesperson Karoline Leavitt replied: “President Trump’s first-term economic policies uplifted families by putting more money in our pockets, while making expanded access to childcare and paid family leave top priorities in his Administration. Now in Kamala Harris’ America, hardworking families are struggling to buy basic groceries, diapers, and baby formula for their children. President Trump will make America strong, safe, and prosperous again for struggling American families when he returns to the White House.”
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[chaos]

Kuntmala can't speak without a teleprompter, cackles like a rancid whore every third word and you're still over here on your 8th year of crying about Trump.

[LurkerNoMore]

Kuntmala can't speak without a teleprompter, cackles like a rancid whore every third word and you're still over here on your 8th year of crying about Trump.

Here you are... 8th year TDfS defending Trumpy with no end in sight.

Maybe you should consider a cognitive test as well.

[GymnJuice]

If it is an honest question I'll say yes. They should probably develop some sort of unbiased cognitive test for remaining in the presidency.

[loco]

Kuntmala can't speak without a teleprompter, cackles like a rancid whore every third word and you're still over here on your 8th year of crying about Trump.

 

[Gym Rat]

Seemed to be a rage just two months ago with the red hats.  Now just crickets.  Why is that?   

He is a direct reflection of his supporters.  As evident by replies on this board.

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'Incoherent word salad': Trump stumbles when asked how he'd tackle child care

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=%27Incoherent+word+salad%27%3A+Trump+stumbles+when+asked+how+he%27d+tackle+child+care

Donald Trump stumbled through a question about his child care plan on Thursday when asked if he'd prioritize the issue and how he would handle it if elected president.

The GOP presidential nominee's full response fell short of offering a coherent vision or policy for how he'd address child care needs, as he pivoted to promoting his proposed tariffs on imported goods to the U.S. and touting the revenue they would bring in.

Asked if he would “commit to prioritizing legislation to make child care affordable” and “what specific piece of legislation” he would support during a Q&A session at the Economic Club of New York Thursday, Trump said:

“Well, I would do that, and we’re sitting down. You know, I was somebody — we had, Senator Marco Rubio, and my daughter Ivanka, was so impactful on that issue. It’s a very important issue.

"But I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I’m talking about — that, because look, child care is child care, couldn’t — you know, there’s something — you have to have it in this country. You have to have it. But when you talk about those numbers, compared to the kind of numbers that I’m talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that they’re not used to. But they’ll get used to it very quickly. And it’s not going to stop them from doing business with us. But they’ll have a very substantial tax when they send product into our country. Those numbers are so much bigger than any numbers that we’re talking about, including child care, that it’s going to take care. We’re going to have — I look forward to having no deficits within a fairly short period of time, coupled with the reductions that I told you about on waste and fraud and all of the other things that are going on in our country.

"Because I have to stay with child care. I want to stay with child care. But those numbers are small relative to the kind of economic numbers that I’m talking about, including growth, but growth also headed up by what the plan is that I just — that I just told you about. We’re going to be taking in trillions of dollars. And as much as child care is talked about as being expensive, it’s, relatively speaking, not very expensive compared to the kind of numbers will be taking in.

"We’re going to make this into an incredible country that can afford to take care of its people. And then we’ll worry about the rest of the world. Let’s help other people. But we’re going to take care of our country first. This is about America first. It’s about make America great again. We have to do it because right now, we’re a failing nation. So we’ll take care of it. Thank you. Very good question. Thank you.”

Trump's response went viral online after the clip and transcript were shared, sparking criticism from the campaign of Democratic presidential rival Kamala Harris and leaving policy experts across the ideological spectrum baffled.

“Somewhere in that incoherent word salad was a claim that the proposed tariffs could both balance the budget and pay for free child care across the country, which is of course mathematically absurd,” said Brian Riedl, an economic policy expert with the conservative Manhattan Institute and a former policy adviser to prominent Republicans. “Trump sounded like the student who hadn’t studied for the test and was making up numbers.”

The Harris campaign responded by attacking Trump's tariffs while highlighting her proposals to expand the child tax credit.

“Billionaire-bought Donald Trump’s ‘plan’ for making child care more affordable is to impose a $3,900 tax hike on middle class families,” Harris campaign spokesperson Joseph Costello said, citing estimates from two think tanks on the impact of Trump's tariff plan. “The American people deserve a President who will actually cut costs for them, like Vice President Harris’ plan to bring back a $3,600 Child Tax Credit for working families and an expanded $6,000 tax cut for families with newborn children.”

The Harris proposal is less aggressive than what the Biden White House has endorsed for families with children, which includes capping child care expenses for the middle class at 7% of income, as well as universal preschool. The Harris campaign didn't respond when asked if she'd push for those provisions if elected president.

White House spokesperson Andrew Bates mocked Trump's answer during a Friday interview on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."

“If you have any idea what the hell that answer means, you’re a better detective than I am,” Bates said, before citing analyses by nonpartisan experts that Trump's tariffs would limit economic growth.

Reshma Saujani, who asked Trump the child care question at the Economic Club of New York, told NBC News after the event that the former president's answer “kind of blew my mind.”

“He basically said that child care was not that expensive or that tariffs would solve it,” said Saujani, who is a member of the board and said the club had invited her to ask Trump a question. “That demonstrates to me how out of touch he really is. If you’re talking to parents and moms and families on the campaign trail, they’re talking about child care and the cost of it.”

In her question to Trump, Saujani, a founder of the groups Moms First and Girls Who Code, cited statistics showing that child care costs a total of $122 billion a year and described it as “one of the most urgent economic issues facing our country.”

She asked him to mention a specific piece of legislation he would advance to address the problem.

Trump did not answer her directly. Instead, he talked about the amount of money that would come into the U.S. through tariffs on foreign countries. He seemed to be suggesting that those sums could more than pay for child care needs, although he did not outline a plan for how the government should cover them.

For her part, Saujani believes Trump was making a different point that she called “shocking”: that the cost of child care is not that a big problem for the U.S. when compared to the sums involved in tariff collection.

Asked to clarify his response, Trump spokesperson Karoline Leavitt replied: “President Trump’s first-term economic policies uplifted families by putting more money in our pockets, while making expanded access to childcare and paid family leave top priorities in his Administration. Now in Kamala Harris’ America, hardworking families are struggling to buy basic groceries, diapers, and baby formula for their children. President Trump will make America strong, safe, and prosperous again for struggling American families when he returns to the White House.”
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Retard ^^^^

Cokk sukking child-molester ^^^^^^^

[Agnostic007]

Here you are... 8th year TDfS defending Trumpy with no end in sight.

Maybe you should consider a cognitive test as well.

Kamala can't speak without a teleprompter. was Choas wisdom. That is his criticism. Never mind Trumps rantings off the teleprompter that are famous. Chaos has concern here.  Those of us who know chaos can relegate his post as most of his post to the couch potato section as he rarely has ideas of his own and I challenge anyone to come up with even 1 legitimate Chaos original idea post.

Having clarified Chaos is nothing more than a varsity cheerleader for Trumpsters, can anyone put forth a legitimate argument that Trump, who sued to have his records not revealed, is any match for Harris who has led a career that Trump only wished any of his sons could accomplish?

No offense to Trumpsters who truly were ignorant of the facts

[loco]

[SOMEPARTS]

Convenient timing. Dems are radicals who make rules for everyone but themselves. Makes sense.

[LurkerNoMore]

Convenient timing. Dems are radicals who make rules for everyone but themselves. Makes sense.

Convenient memory lapse.  Just two months ago all the little red hats had their panties twisted over Biden taking one.   Now just crickets.  Trumpturds are hypocrites that can't follow the same rules they try to impose on others.

[LurkerNoMore]

Retard ^^^^

Cokk sukking child-molester ^^^^^^^

Brutal if true.   But it's not.  So I guess that just leaves you with being a bitter self loathing geriatric in a constant state of meltdown.  Taking that break from here certainly didn't help your mental health issues.  At one time I would have been concerned about you.  Now?  I have to just laugh with how pathetic you have become. 

     <-- that's me laughing.

[LurkerNoMore]

Kamala can't speak without a teleprompter. was Choas wisdom. That is his criticism. Never mind Trumps rantings off the teleprompter that are famous. Chaos has concern here.  Those of us who know chaos can relegate his post as most of his post to the couch potato section as he rarely has ideas of his own and I challenge anyone to come up with even 1 legitimate Chaos original idea post.

Having clarified Chaos is nothing more than a varsity cheerleader for Trumpsters, can anyone put forth a legitimate argument that Trump, who sued to have his records not revealed, is any match for Harris who has led a career that Trump only wished any of his sons could accomplish?

No offense to Trumpsters who truly were ignorant of the facts

That rules out, like.... all of them.   

I bet chaos buys into and believes Trumpy's claim that Kamala was using notes during her CNN interview.   

As we know, nothing but excuses, denials, deflections, TDfS, off topic replies and whining from the C&C Excuse Factory.  C&C being conehead and cankles.

[chaos]

Kamala can't speak without a teleprompter. was Choas wisdom. That is his criticism. Never mind Trumps rantings off the teleprompter that are famous. Chaos has concern here.  Those of us who know chaos can relegate his post as most of his post to the couch potato section as he rarely has ideas of his own and I challenge anyone to come up with even 1 legitimate Chaos original idea post.

Having clarified Chaos is nothing more than a varsity cheerleader for Trumpsters, can anyone put forth a legitimate argument that Trump, who sued to have his records not revealed, is any match for Harris who has led a career that Trump only wished any of his sons could accomplish?

No offense to Trumpsters who truly were ignorant of the facts

Find any of my posts in defense of Trump, bootlicking liberal007

[OzmO]

All presidents no matter the age should have cognitive tests every 3 months, from 3 independent administrators with judicial oversight.

[chaos]

All presidents no matter the age should have cognitive tests every 3 months, from 3 independent administrators with judicial oversight.

I could support this and age limits.

[Skeletor]

I could support this and age limits.

And term limits for Congress as well.

[Irongrip400]

Kamala can't speak without a teleprompter. was Choas wisdom. That is his criticism. Never mind Trumps rantings off the teleprompter that are famous. Chaos has concern here.  Those of us who know chaos can relegate his post as most of his post to the couch potato section as he rarely has ideas of his own and I challenge anyone to come up with even 1 legitimate Chaos original idea post.

Having clarified Chaos is nothing more than a varsity cheerleader for Trumpsters, can anyone put forth a legitimate argument that Trump, who sued to have his records not revealed, is any match for Harris who has led a career that Trump only wished any of his sons could accomplish?

No offense to Trumpsters who truly were ignorant of the facts

I said it in another thread to Lurker, and I’ll say it here, I will wait until after the debate to make a decision on whether or not I think Kamala can put together a good debate performance without a teleprompter and whether or not Trump can keep his shit together and not throw a tantrum like he did the first 2020 Biden debate. I’ll say I think the muted mike may help him.

[SF1900]

Most politicians can’t speak coherently on these matters not because they are necessarily old. It’s because they are so out of touch with reality and are not experts on these complex issues. Although, old age may add to difficulty elaborating an answer.

What does trump or Harris know about trying to afford child care in a middle class salary, let alone likely doing zero research on the issue.

[chaos]

And term limits for Congress as well.

Absolutely.

[LurkerNoMore]

And term limits for Congress as well.

Propose this and you would see, quite possibly for the first time in history, our entire Congress vote 100% on the same issue.  They would vote against it, but it would still be a 100% vote.  This isn't a service for them, it's a career.

[Skeletor]

Propose this and you would see, quite possibly for the first time in history, our entire Congress vote 100% on the same issue.  They would vote against it, but it would still be a 100% vote.  This isn't a service for them, it's a career.

They would start grandstanding with BS such as "we don't do this for ourselves, we do this for the people".

[Primemuscle]

Most politicians can’t speak coherently on these matters not because they are necessarily old. It’s because they are so out of touch with reality and are not experts on these complex issues. Although, old age may add to difficulty elaborating an answer.

What does trump or Harris know about trying to afford child care in a middle class salary, let alone likely doing zero research on the issue.

Good point. Not only has neither of them ever needed to pay for childcare, they are not middle class in terms of income. In 2021, middle income folks made $43,350 and $130,000. When VP Harris was a Senator from 2017-2021 the salary was and still is $174,000 plus per diem or expense reimbursements. According to Trump, his income is in the billions of dollars. If this is correct, then he is way, way beyond middle class. 

[Agnostic007]

All presidents no matter the age should have cognitive tests every 3 months, from 3 independent administrators with judicial oversight.

If we could be assured it the test givers were neutral, I would wholeheartedly agree.

[loco]

[LurkerNoMore]

As I have said, the only people dumber than Trumpy is his supporters.

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Trump is 78 and barely coherent. Where's everyone who questioned Biden's age and fitness?

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Trump+is+78+and+barely+coherent.+Where%27s+everyone+who+questioned+Biden%27s+age+and+fitness%3F

To the pundits and the Republicans who relentlessly decried President Joe Biden’s age, “cognitive decline” and “mental acuity” right up to the day he stepped aside in the presidential race, allow me to unspool a recent quote from 78-year-old GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump.

He was responding to a question about “what specific piece of legislation” he would advance to make child care more affordable:

“It’s a very important issue. But I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I’m talking about, that – because, look, child care is child care. It’s – couldn’t – you know, it’s something – you have to have it. In this country, you have to have it. But when you talk about those numbers compared to the kind of numbers that I’m talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that they’re not used to, but they’ll get used to it very quickly – and it’s not going to stop them from doing business with us but they’ll have a very substantial tax when they send product into our country. Those numbers are so much bigger than any numbers that we’re talking about, including child care. That – it’s going to take care – we’re going to have – I – I look forward to having no deficits within a fairly short period of time, coupled with the reductions that I told you about on waste and fraud and all of the other things that are going on in our country.”

That’s as much as I can quote here, but it went on and continued to make zero sense. Child care is child care? Tariffs are going to make child care costs go away?

There’s nothing about legislation in that word eruption. There are barely any complete sentences.
Trump's bizarre rants get sanitized. Biden got no such special treatment.

If Biden, as the Democratic nominee, had gone on a rambling verbal tear like that, GOP lawmakers would be calling for him to be institutionalized and cable news panels would be discussing how the 25th Amendment works.

But The New York Times' initial report on Trump’s babble said this: “In a jumbled answer, he said he would prioritize legislation on the issue but offered no specifics and insisted that his other economic policies, including tariffs, would ‘take care’ of child care.”

Oh, c’mon. A 78-year-old convicted felon running for president rants nonsensically, demonstrating an inability to hold a thought or understand an important issue, and it’s deemed “a jumbled answer”?

Republicans are voting for Harris: Dick Cheney picks Kamala Harris, giving conservatives a final path to save their party from Trump
Trump spouts bizarre fantasies, so why isn't his mental fitness an issue?

Trump has lately taken to telling a despicable and absurd tale alleging American children are going to school and then, apparently during the day and without parental permission, being subjected to some form of gender-affirming surgery.

At a weekend rally, Trump said: “Can you imagine you’re a parent and your son leaves the house and you say, ‘Jimmy, I love you so much. Go have a good day in school,’ and your son comes back with a brutal operation. Can you even imagine this? What the hell is wrong with out country?"

Nobody can imagine it, because it’s not a thing that’s happening in any way, shape or form. It’s several steps beyond ludicrous, and so clearly fabricated you have to wonder what other imaginary things the teller believes.

If a relative was convinced such a thing was happening, you’d rush them to a doctor.
A violent, lie-filled rant about immigrants? Trump seems unwell.

At his weekend rally in Wisconsin, Trump brought up his sadistic plan to deport millions of immigrants, and he spun a dizzyingly dishonest tale about immigrants: “In Colorado they’re so brazen they’re taking over sections of the state. And you know, getting them out will be a bloody story. They should’ve never been allowed to come into our country. Nobody checked them, nobody checked were they criminals, were they from jails? We have them pouring out from jails. We have the worst criminals in all of these countries, 168 so far are registered, 168 countries. They’re in our country and they said if you come back you will be executed, you will be killed immediately.”

Hoo boy. That’s a load of hot nonsense. It likely stems from a debunked viral right-wing claim about one apartment complex in Aurora being overrun by Venezuelan gangs ‒ again, debunked. But Trump concocts a violent fiction that includes the threat that his deportation effort will be “a bloody story.”

Trump's hate speech: Trump knew Moms for Liberty was the perfect crowd for his hate speech. So he let it fly.

Where are the headlines screaming: “Deranged old man peddles nonsense while threatening violent deportation of immigrants”? Where are the feverish concerns about whether Trump, who if he wins will be the oldest president elected, will have the mental capacity to finish out his term? Where are the calls for him to step aside?

They don’t exist. Even though Trump’s incoherence has grown markedly worse in recent months, he’s never scrutinized the way Biden was.

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News outlets are 'sanewashing' Trump's unhinged speeches

Many news organizations are sanitizing Trump’s crazier and crazier comments. Parker Molloy at The New Republic recently wrote: “This ‘sanewashing’ of Trump’s statements isn’t just poor journalism; it’s a form of misinformation that poses a threat to democracy. By continually reframing Trump’s incoherent and often dangerous rhetoric as conventional political discourse, major news outlets are failing in their duty to inform the public and are instead providing cover for increasingly erratic behavior from a former ‒ and potentially future ‒ president.”

That’s absolutely correct. Concerns about Biden’s age were legitimate, albeit wildly overreported. Concerns about Trump’s age and the ease with which he concocts paranoid fantasies are somewhere between muted and nonexistent.

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