Dorian at 62

[Coach is Back!]

No one pictured in this thread that's retired is running "heavy cycles" or probably not even cycles of anything other than some some TRT at therapeutic doses (1-200mg/wk) maybe in Lee's case some GH at 2iu's because he's smart..MAYBE. I know this is Getbig but lets have a little reality check.

[joswift]

No one pictured in this thread that's retired is running "heavy cycles" or probably not even cycles of anything other than some some TRT at therapeutic doses (1-200mg/wk) maybe in Lee's case some GH at 2iu's because he's smart..MAYBE. I know this is Getbig but lets have a little reality check.

I consider myself retired, no more competing, I currently take 150mgs test e a week and a tab of proviron every 3 days or so

I am still full and in good shape about 12%

Bearing in mind the dosage you take while competing it really doesnt make a reasonable difference.
Its like you have to take 10 times the dosage to get twice the benefit

[Van_Bilderass]

No one pictured in this thread that's retired is running "heavy cycles" or probably not even cycles of anything other than some some TRT at therapeutic doses (1-200mg/wk) maybe in Lee's case some GH at 2iu's because he's smart..MAYBE. I know this is Getbig but lets have a little reality check.

Well, when Lee took those shots a few years ago, he was on considerable cycles imo. Total dosage wasn't outrageous but there was tren, masteron, a good dose of GH, orals etc. He was freaking grainy and hard unlike ever before when he competed. I don't think anyone experienced looked at those pics thought this was 100-200 test and MAYBE 2iu GH. GH at more than 2iu was a complete given, zero question about it. How are you going to be in some ways better than 30 years before otherwise.

I would say Rory is on more than strictly HRT for sure but who cares really, he's doing well regardless. I would bet he's on a good dose of Deca in addition to a cycling dose of test at a minimum, all those from his generation loved Deca 

Dorian is in some ways "big" still but he"s not even trying to look jacked and he isn't looking like Labrada with the graininess, vascularity and cuts.

[_bruce_]

You're entitled to your opinion. In my opinion BB is exactly right, the "density" he had still shines through, whatever that is it still shows. I think big arms looks great and youthful in a way, if you have those full muscle bellies. On many the muscles start getting shorter looking and damaged looking so if you have nice looking arms you look young. But I can think of a number of bodybuilders who don't look imposing and powerful yet have big arms.

Rory looks fucking amazing, and iirc he trains way too heavy with short ranges, the type of training that can damage you, you would think.

I don't remember how long Dorian had that torn arm, the triceps included, if he tore the tri on his last prep or what, but he was able to retain size for a while the muscles were dying.

Edit: I wonder if anyone here has noticed this aging sign on themselves or other bodybuilders. The muscle at the elbow on the upper side of the forearm, too lazy to look up what it's called, starts to shrink or dissapears when you get older. I noticed it and saw some comments about it on another forum. Someone had a theory on it, it's probably from a lifetime of wide grip pulldowns especially, and I also think it's really stressed on those.

One of the very first sad signs of aging on bodybuilders is you get a wrinkle on your lower pec line. You see the skin fold on Dorian but he's 62 but it starts at about 40. That's when you're no longer at your best. Just things you notice when you are bodybuilding-damaged.

It's most likely a neck issue and can be reversed.

[MAXX]

thats what happens when both bic and tric are torn. no muscle there

[MAXX]

You're entitled to your opinion. In my opinion BB is exactly right, the "density" he had still shines through, whatever that is it still shows. I think big arms looks great and youthful in a way, if you have those full muscle bellies. On many the muscles start getting shorter looking and damaged looking so if you have nice looking arms you look young. But I can think of a number of bodybuilders who don't look imposing and powerful yet have big arms.

Rory looks fucking amazing, and iirc he trains way too heavy with short ranges, the type of training that can damage you, you would think.

I don't remember how long Dorian had that torn arm, the triceps included, if he tore the tri on his last prep or what, but he was able to retain size for a while the muscles were dying.

Edit: I wonder if anyone here has noticed this aging sign on themselves or other bodybuilders. The muscle at the elbow on the upper side of the forearm, too lazy to look up what it's called, starts to shrink or dissapears when you get older. I noticed it and saw some comments about it on another forum. Someone had a theory on it, it's probably from a lifetime of wide grip pulldowns especially, and I also think it's really stressed on those.

One of the very first sad signs of aging on bodybuilders is you get a wrinkle on your lower pec line. You see the skin fold on Dorian but he's 62 but it starts at about 40. That's when you're no longer at your best. Just things you notice when you are bodybuilding-damaged.

Brachioradialis

The one that is super developed on Phil Heat. And on some like you said it's gone.

Im not sure why some muscle just dissapear. It's like that commonly dissapearing gastroc calf muscle

[MAXX]

btw, here's a mutant brachio for you  talk about long insertion/belly

[jude2]

Best pussy slayer genetics ever.

You know he is having fun.

[nobody in particular]

btw, here's a mutant brachio for you  talk about long insertion/belly

Oleg Zhok I think? If so he only has it on the left forearm. He’s formidable in arm wrestling. I think I read somewhere he actually has a genetic mutation in that foresrm with an extra bone and two sets of certain muscles but that could’ve been brotalk bs.

In any event strong/well developed forearms do convey a look of real strength. When I was in my 20s I thought it odd that bodybuilders seemed to be getting bigger and bigger arms but not so much forearms. Relatively speaking of course. I was naive at the time didn’t know what seos were or how problematic they’d be to augment forearms

[joswift]

Oleg Zhok I think? If so he only has it on the left forearm. He’s formidable in arm wrestling. I think I read somewhere he actually has a genetic mutation in that foresrm with an extra bone and two sets of certain muscles but that could’ve been brotalk bs.

In any event strong/well developed forearms do convey a look of real strength. When I was in my 20s I thought it odd that bodybuilders seemed to be getting bigger and bigger arms but not so much forearms. Relatively speaking of course. I was naive at the time didn’t know what seos were or how problematic they’d be to augment forearms

thats because they use straps for everything , just grip the fucking bar, you only need wraps for 1 rep max lifts

[Van_Bilderass]

Brachioradialis

The one that is super developed on Phil Heat. And on some like you said it's gone.

Im not sure why some muscle just dissapear. It's like that commonly dissapearing gastroc calf muscle

That's it.

I wonder if it's a neck issue as bruce said.
I think it's well established it's a back/nerve issue that causes the disappearing gastroc. Even Dorian has this on one calf.

[Bevo]

Dorian has always been very pleasant and friendly towards me.

Just a regular fella who happened to hit upon a thing at which he could excel.

He put a working-man ethic towards his aspiration and came out on top.

Fortress always wishes Dorian well.

Who’s cock would you suck if given the chance? Dorian’s or Schwimmer?

[Humble Narcissist]

Oleg Zhok I think? If so he only has it on the left forearm. He’s formidable in arm wrestling. I think I read somewhere he actually has a genetic mutation in that foresrm with an extra bone and two sets of certain muscles but that could’ve been brotalk bs.

In any event strong/well developed forearms do convey a look of real strength. When I was in my 20s I thought it odd that bodybuilders seemed to be getting bigger and bigger arms but not so much forearms. Relatively speaking of course. I was naive at the time didn’t know what seos were or how problematic they’d be to augment forearms

Some old bodybuilding courses discouraged direct forearm work so as not to make the upper arms look less impressive.

[Van_Bilderass]

Some old bodybuilding courses discouraged direct forearm work so as not to make the upper arms look less impressive.

I'm of the opinion, without discounting the need for direct work for optimal results, that genes account for most in bodybuilding and if you have the genes for big forearms you will have them, direct forearm work or not or straps or not. Are we to believe Phil Heath had a brutal forearm routine or that he didn't use straps (like every single pro bb)? What does everyone think? Branch Warren didn't stimulate his forearms enough (he also had the disappearing brachioradialis)? I don't mean to sound attacking, I don't even know what you believe, just giving my opinion in good humor.

[Hulkotron]

Oleg Zhok I think? If so he only has it on the left forearm. He’s formidable in arm wrestling. I think I read somewhere he actually has a genetic mutation in that foresrm with an extra bone and two sets of certain muscles but that could’ve been brotalk bs.

bhanks has a similar genetic anomaly with an extra muscle in his back.

[Fortress]

Who’s cock would you suck if given the chance? Dorian’s or Schwimmer?

I hate that Shwimmer fuckhead so much. I would happily blast a blowtorch into his dumb face and melt it away into a smouldering stump.

Fuck that guy. I hate him so much.

[Rambone]

I hate that Shwimmer fuckhead so much. I would happily blast a blowtorch into his dumb face and melt it away into a smouldering stump.

Fuck that guy. I hate him so much.

Fortress hates:

Fortress loves:

[MCWAY]

Don't forget "The Jetman" Tony Pearson, who won the AAU Masters Mr. Universe at 63.

[nobody in particular]

bhanks has a similar genetic anomaly with an extra muscle in his back.

The extra muscle frequently observed in his back is exogenous. His genetic anomaly is latent homosexuality.

[Humble Narcissist]

I'm of the opinion, without discounting the need for direct work for optimal results, that genes account for most in bodybuilding and if you have the genes for big forearms you will have them, direct forearm work or not or straps or not. Are we to believe Phil Heath had a brutal forearm routine or that he didn't use straps (like every single pro bb)? What does everyone think? Branch Warren didn't stimulate his forearms enough (he also had the disappearing brachioradialis)? I don't mean to sound attacking, I don't even know what you believe, just giving my opinion in good humor.

They are much like calves.

[galain]

Dorian is in very good shape considering he's said mulitple times he hasn't done any resistance training in years. Yoga, mountain biking, weed and a vegetarian diet - and he still looks like that? Good genes on that fella.

[Donny]

Dorian is in very good shape considering he's said mulitple times he hasn't done any resistance training in years. Yoga, mountain biking, weed and a vegetarian diet - and he still looks like that? Good genes on that fella.

Didn´t his Son take over the old Temple Gym ?

[falco]

Brachioradialis

The one that is super developed on Phil Heat. And on some like you said it's gone.

Im not sure why some muscle just dissapear. It's like that commonly dissapearing gastroc calf muscle

Nerve compression at the spine. Stops sending enough signal to the muscles, therefore it shrinks.

[falco]

thats because they use straps for everything , just grip the fucking bar, you only need wraps for 1 rep max lifts

Using chalk with a hook grip multiples ones grip hability a lot.

[MAXX]

Nerve compression at the spine. Stops sending enough signal to the muscles, therefore it shrinks.

I was of that thought aswell I made a whole thread about it.
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=675241.msg9663625;topicseen#msg9663625

But I also heard on a podcast that Iain Valiere(spelling?) said his was caused damaged blood vessles in the(or to the) calf that caused his. There wasn't much blood supplied to the muscle so it "died off" kind of