after watching Lunsford's vid's, I doubt stage 4 CKD or congestive heart failure is going to sneak up on him. or do you guys think you know about his health better than he does? honest question.also, where else is he going to make 1/2 million a year for the next 3yrs? use his engineering or accounting degree and make $60-100k?continue bodybuilding = $1.5 milliongo back to work = $180k-$300ksome people would rather punish success or wish others would fail, rather than do better themselves. jealous men would rather drag winners down, because the winner's success casts their faults and failures in an even dimmer lightit's like seeing a guy drive past in a Ferrari while sitting in your Mercedes. Instead of thinking "hey, I gotta figure out how to get a Ferrari", it's easier to wish the Ferrari guy crashes and ends up in a Honda, not even a Lexus.that mindset is like a virus & gladly I don't have it. I can't relate
Being dead by 40 doesn't sound like a good retirement plan.He started a gym and will lose his ass in 2 years because he isn't very smart.If he invested the winnings he has today wisely and got a good engineering job making $120k per year, he'd be fine. But i'm thinking based on his intelligence of a doorknob he'd be a shit engineer and worth maybe $80k.Ferraris are shit cars to drive daily. Get a sweet AMG Merc with 600+ HP and reliability.
I'm a Porsche guy myself
Same.They are reasonable daily drivers.I have an eye on a 911 GT3 that's been for sale locally.Need to see how the market goes after the election.
In his reply, the user appears to be reframing my argument to suggest that I'm advocating for Derek Lunsford to prioritize money over his health, implying that I'm supporting a reckless approach. Let's break it down further:Tone shift and exaggeration: He accuses me of saying that Derek should "juice till he piss blood," which exaggerates my point. Nowhere did i suggest pushing health to that extreme, but rather questioned others' assumptions about Derek's ability to manage his health.Focus on family: He shifts the conversation to an emotional argument, stating that Derek's family needs him alive, not as a "corpse," which is designed to make me appear indifferent to health risks in favor of financial gain. This appeals to an audience's sense of responsibility and emotional values regarding family over career.Redirection of the debate: Instead of addressing the specific economic comparison I made (about Derek's earnings in bodybuilding versus other professions), the reply redirects the discussion to health, sidestepping my key argument about financial success.Portraying his stance as positive: He positions himself as the one with a more "positive" outlook, claiming that prioritizing health is a more noble or commendable goal, despite not engaging with the practical considerations I raised regarding career longevity and earning potential.His response doesn't directly address the balance between health management and financial success that I was trying to highlight. Instead, he reframes it into an emotional appeal with a focus on risk and family needs.The argument he's using can be classified as a strawman argument. A strawman occurs when someone misrepresents or exaggerates an opponent's position to make it easier to attack. In this case, he exaggerates my point about Derek's career and health management into something extreme: that I'm suggesting Derek should "juice till he piss blood," which isn't what I implied.Additionally, this argument also contains elements of an appeal to emotion (pathos). By emphasizing Derek's family needing him alive, he’s using an emotional appeal to shift focus away from the logical economic comparison i presented and draw attention to the potential tragic consequences of neglecting health.What type of person would use such an argument?Someone who wants to discredit my point: They feel that their original argument is weak, so they distort or exaggerate my stance to make it easier to dismiss. They focus on an emotional aspect (health, family) to avoid engaging with the more complex issue of balancing health risks with career decisions.Someone who debates emotionally, like a woman: They may prioritize emotional appeals over logic, especially in discussions involving sensitive issues like health, family, or life risks. This type of person may struggle with staying focused on objective reasoning and instead tries to win the argument by appealing to the emotions of others.Someone feeling defensive: He may feel personally attacked or challenged by my reply and could be reacting by diverting the conversation into a more extreme and emotionally charged direction to put me on the defensive. This could be an attempt to gain moral high ground in the discussion.In essence, the person may either be trying to manipulate the conversation to avoid addressing the practical point i raised or genuinely believes that silly emotional appeals will resonate more strongly with others.So there's that..
He’s got a very busy ministering schedule
rambo do you think god will answer derricks prayers and bless him with the olympia title next year lumps and all and no veins in his arms. and also do you think he will forgive derrick for doing a ton of strucks and letting hairy and rich arab schmoes destroy his asshole
derrick lost out big this year, he made what 100 before taxes and before hany took his cut. so lets say hany takes his 20% off the bat thats 20k - so now he down to 80 before taxes and other expenses i doubt he cleared 40k after it is all said and done, he took a huge loss this year and this moron just opened a gym as well.
I think Minister Derelict Lumpsworth should be on his knees begging and pleading to the Lord above for improved arm vascularity and turnip thigh mass and separation.
Maybe he openend the gym to do money laudering for the church.
rambo i am not making this up that close homo greg doucette actually said derrick had one of the best backs of all time ! i got a good chuckle out of that
how can you have shredded glutes, but no definition on the front of your body
Drugs- notice all top 3 have full round bloated faces - no death face for them.They're using different drugs nowadays.
do you think they are even doing much cardio? shit i remember shawn ray said he did two hrs every day going into a show and the food he ate was normal and basic i dont think he had a guru either . nick walker probably couldnt even walk up a flight of stairs without being out of breath
What would like to see him do to excite you more?
no cardio, no real diet, they just sit about all day weighing food and watching TV throwing down T3,T5, Clen, DNP and going through half assed workouts while gassing out doing bicep curls
By the look of them I very much doubt it. I'd strongly doubt they're dieting very hard either - I really don't like to use the Term "all drugs"only very clearly things are very different now - Not All drugs maybeJust different Drugs. Look at Samson's conditioning it was far from anything dry / tight - Hadi yes he always bring the conditioning.
That's an interesting post by ES. I just want to know "how" he wrote it because it's not in his usual style. It contains well written aspects specific to those replies though. Really, I'd be curious
