Tricep tear help.

[ESFitness]

TL/DR; think I torn my tricep, long head doing overhead ext's. fix's without surgery?


today was my Friday, so lil back touch up and then bi/tri/delt/traps.

4 sets of pulldowns, wide grip. great pump
1 set of 1 arm lever-row x failure....  great pump

then to overhead ez-bar/close tricep ext
1st set 10lbs x 6, 2nd set 25lbs ea side x6
felt light coulda done 20..

then 35lbs per side x6.. felt like coulda done 15. I've used up to 140lb db overhead ext 2 hand since 2000, & 185 skull crushers a few wks ago, so this shouldn't be too heavy

45lbs on each side.. took a big whiff of smelling salts, rev curl and press the bar up, then coming up just out of the bottom of the first rep I felt a 'pop' in what felt like my long head triceps at the insertion in the armpit.

seriously thought I was gonna have an anxiety attack lol... pre workout 98mm Sour Diesel didn't help that.

looking back, wasn't a good idea to head straight to overhead ext's from big stretching/pumping sets of pulldowns and lever rows... coulda torn a lat or tires muscle as well I suppose.

insurance won't pay to fix it I'm sure. anyone know if Kaiser will fix a torn tricep?? suppose I could go to the hospital and say I was doing box jumps and fell on my shoulder and maybe get an MRI. my insurance sure didn't mind a fuck ton of MRI's for my hand a couple months ago.

anyone else torn a tricep? long head? lat? recovery time?

oh fuck... what a coincidence. I have a few extra bottles of bps and tb500 that I was gonna use for my leg and neck and stomach.... now I suppose  I gotta use it on this now too.. ffs

*forgot to add, it feels like a finger thick 'knot' 'inside' the long head.. and the tricep feels like its contracting when just typing this. and something feels 'off' in my armpit at the lat insertion. fml

[Raymondo]

I hope they amputate bro

[Lartinos]

If you need surgery you’ll definitely need to see a doc, no matter what.

Tri your best..

[SF1900]

You almost have as many physical problems as bhanks.

[Van_Bilderass]

Myself I would definitely have surgery if I thought this would affect look or function in the future too much. I tore my bicep but I'm sure I probably might have made an ok recovery without surgery but I don't want my arm to look as unbalanced as Dorian's.

I have some smaller tears where there is a some deformity but it doesn't affect look much at all, like my hamstring is partially torn and my teardrop muscle tore and shortened but not too bad, no performance difference. Anyway, I always knew almost right away what kind of injury it was, I could feel it.

[ESFitness]

Myself I would definitely have surgery if I thought this would affect look or function in the future too much. I tore my bicep but I'm sure I probably might have made an ok recovery without surgery but I don't want my arm to look as unbalanced as Dorian's.

I have some smaller tears where there is a some deformity but it doesn't affect look much at all, like my hamstring is partially torn and my teardrop muscle tore and shortened but not too bad, no performance difference. Anyway, I always knew almost right away what kind of injury it was, I could feel it.

Yea if I have the option I'd have surgery 100% but I'd have to fall in a grocery store or something jk :|

Both my bi's are torn, and both delts have surgery scars... My triceps were the last untouched muscle group.. even my back has tears/adhesions etc from powerlifter years... from armpit to elbow, good "horseshoe", lateral head striated to the elbow blah blah blah .... Just hoped Id always have them . Boohoo

[Vince B]

TL/DR; think I torn my tricep, long head doing overhead ext's. fix's without surgery?


today was my Friday, so lil back touch up and then bi/tri/delt/traps.

4 sets of pulldowns, wide grip. great pump
1 set of 1 arm lever-row x failure....  great pump

then to overhead ez-bar/close tricep ext
1st set 10lbs x 6, 2nd set 25lbs ea side x6
felt light coulda done 20..

then 35lbs per side x6.. felt like coulda done 15. I've used up to 140lb db overhead ext 2 hand since 2000, & 185 skull crushers a few wks ago, so this shouldn't be too heavy

45lbs on each side.. took a big whiff of smelling salts, rev curl and press the bar up, then coming up just out of the bottom of the first rep I felt a 'pop' in what felt like my long head triceps at the insertion in the armpit.

seriously thought I was gonna have an anxiety attack lol... pre workout 98mm Sour Diesel didn't help that.

looking back, wasn't a good idea to head straight to overhead ext's from big stretching/pumping sets of pulldowns and lever rows... coulda torn a lat or tires muscle as well I suppose.

insurance won't pay to fix it I'm sure. anyone know if Kaiser will fix a torn tricep?? suppose I could go to the hospital and say I was doing box jumps and fell on my shoulder and maybe get an MRI. my insurance sure didn't mind a fuck ton of MRI's for my hand a couple months ago.

anyone else torn a tricep? long head? lat? recovery time?

oh fuck... what a coincidence. I have a few extra bottles of bps and tb500 that I was gonna use for my leg and neck and stomach.... now I suppose  I gotta use it on this now too.. ffs

*forgot to add, it feels like a finger thick 'knot' 'inside' the long head.. and the tricep feels like its contracting when just typing this. and something feels 'off' in my armpit at the lat insertion. fml

Lots of reps for several sets for triceps, if you can do 15 reps then do them. You now know overhead movements can be dangerous. See a doctor asap because medical procedures should be done soon after an injury. 

[Humble Narcissist]

Yea if I have the option I'd have surgery 100% but I'd have to fall in a grocery store or something jk :|

Both my bi's are torn, and both delts have surgery scars... My triceps were the last untouched muscle group.. even my back has tears/adhesions etc from powerlifter years... from armpit to elbow, good "horseshoe", lateral head striated to the elbow blah blah blah .... Just hoped Id always have them . Boohoo

Damn bro! I would ease up on the workouts.

[joswift]

Yea if I have the option I'd have surgery 100% but I'd have to fall in a grocery store or something jk :|

Both my bi's are torn, and both delts have surgery scars... My triceps were the last untouched muscle group.. even my back has tears/adhesions etc from powerlifter years... from armpit to elbow, good "horseshoe", lateral head striated to the elbow blah blah blah .... Just hoped Id always have them . Boohoo

I guess you never heard the term "I learned my lesson"

[falco]

You should first know what happened. If you had a total tear, no amount of TB500 will fix it, only surgery. Ice it and a week after it is possible to check if you had a total tear or not by testing your strenght in a specific range of movement/hand position. If you are lean enough, that can be accessed visually also.

Given the amount of "aids" you use to get by, pain will be a poor marker to check for.

In before you know what's wrong, stop training to avoid further damage and possible internal bleeding. And other thing, when you restart training, the load of that tendon will go to the other two, so adjust the poundages to that.

 

[joswift]

TL/DR; think I torn my tricep, long head doing overhead ext's. fix's without surgery?


today was my Friday, so lil back touch up and then bi/tri/delt/traps.

4 sets of pulldowns, wide grip. great pump
1 set of 1 arm lever-row x failure....  great pump

then to overhead ez-bar/close tricep ext
1st set 10lbs x 6, 2nd set 25lbs ea side x6
felt light coulda done 20..

then 35lbs per side x6.. felt like coulda done 15. I've used up to 140lb db overhead ext 2 hand since 2000, & 185 skull crushers a few wks ago, so this shouldn't be too heavy

45lbs on each side.. took a big whiff of smelling salts, rev curl and press the bar up, then coming up just out of the bottom of the first rep I felt a 'pop' in what felt like my long head triceps at the insertion in the armpit.

seriously thought I was gonna have an anxiety attack lol... pre workout 98mm Sour Diesel didn't help that.

looking back, wasn't a good idea to head straight to overhead ext's from big stretching/pumping sets of pulldowns and lever rows... coulda torn a lat or tires muscle as well I suppose.

insurance won't pay to fix it I'm sure. anyone know if Kaiser will fix a torn tricep?? suppose I could go to the hospital and say I was doing box jumps and fell on my shoulder and maybe get an MRI. my insurance sure didn't mind a fuck ton of MRI's for my hand a couple months ago.

anyone else torn a tricep? long head? lat? recovery time?

oh fuck... what a coincidence. I have a few extra bottles of bps and tb500 that I was gonna use for my leg and neck and stomach.... now I suppose  I gotta use it on this now too.. ffs

*forgot to add, it feels like a finger thick 'knot' 'inside' the long head.. and the tricep feels like its contracting when just typing this. and something feels 'off' in my armpit at the lat insertion. fml

after reading this again I can just see you in the gym strutting around screaming and shouting wearing crazee wear baggies, Tank top and wide neck cap sleeve sweatshirt
smelling salts for a set you tricep extension FFS

Top tip , take it easy, it anit that serious, you are going nowhere compwise at your age, you aint gonna getr much bigger at your age.

Chill the fuck out and you may actually get the odd person nod or smile at you in the gym instead of shaking their heads and hiding laughs

[French]

"big stretching" is always the same stupidity again and again.
You can't fix anything without surgery.

[LurkerNoMore]

If it is truly torn, you can't fix it without surgery.  But you can let it heal on it's own which will result in some kind of odd shape to it afterwards.  See a doctor just to be sure before you decide on what to do.

[MarvinEderFan]

I tore long head of my tri one yr ago

reason: a bad AAS cycle. Test, primo, mast. I got dry, cramps doing nothing. Terrible. Got tons of minor strains, and a big one.

Went to see a sports MD. He did ultrasound. Estimated ~25% tear. Important part being: I did not need surgery.

Get it checkd by a sports MD. Ultrasound and maybe MRI

My impression is surgery needed if tear about 50% or more.
- was NOT needed in my case

I heard a looooud pop, lots of bruising, pain.

I am back to heavy lifting now! I actually tored it doing WG Pull ups. Like levrone did...tore it doing heavy WG pulldowns.. He needed big surgery.

Sorry but stay strong and keep up hope. I am doing just fine now!

[MarvinEderFan]

I took 5 weeks off lifting and then went back with very light DB pressing, light pushdowns.

Eased back into back training too

Like I said my tear was ~25%. rough estimate. NOT 50%. I went to a very famous sports MD here who is expert with ultrasound. I suggest you do the same.
He clearly said to me the result was good news, "as I don't need to do surgery"

Without the US I would not know if the tear was "medium" like mine, or worse, needing surgery.

[webstar]

There’s a good doctor in California. They can arrange pick and drop service via third party for free as well

[_bruce_]

This sucks - hope you recover fully... I guess the operation will cost a few grand?
After the procedure I would go to a therapist to release all tense tissue(all over the body), then stretch and after that continue training with lighter loads.

[oldtimer1]

A couple of thoughts. This is coming from someone that had a complete rupture.

1. See an orthopedic surgeon and tell the girl making appointments that you think you completely tore the muscle off the bone. Yes, it could be a partial tear but you have to be seen quickly.  My doc said if you wait over a week the surgery has a higher failure rate.

2.  He will order an MRI to actually see where the triceps attaches. 

3. See an orthopedic practice where they have specialize surgeons. Meaning they have a hip guy, knee guy, foot guy and a shoulders down guy.  These general ortho guys generally aren't up on the latest techniques and stink at fixing things because they don't specialize. 

4. If it's a partial tear you will recover from the surgery pretty quick. If it's a complete rupture then you will be lifting insanely light after about 6 weeks and will regain your strength after about 5 months or so.

5. After the operation think about what would be a safer exercise in your future. Some exercises are just inherently more dangerous than others concerning your tendons.

6. When mine happened I thought my lifting days was over.  At around 6 months after the surgery I told my 130lbs surgeon what I was lifting and he told me I was going to ruin his work but it held up. I'm old and infirmed now, lol, but the repair held up and it's over 20 years now.  Yates tore off his tricep and it was never could be repaired properly because he waited too long.

[Van_Bilderass]

When I was rehabbing my bicep after surgery I saw the surgeon for follow up he asked me how I was lifting for the bicep and I said I train ut a lot but am mindful of the weights I use. He said no, we want you back 100% to your old loads, by now you should almost be back fully. This was maybe 12 weeks after I was cleared to start loading. Just don't yank the weights he said, otherwise you can go at 100%. Another friend said when he had surgery his surgeon said he was back 100% after 6 weeks, big guy with lots of muscle. Sounded a bit unbelievable after a full tear bicep surgery?

I remember on Elitefts, talking about Westside, when someone tore something and didn't require surgery they did prolotherapy with tons of water injections to stimulate a healing response. I have no idea if that is smart but I might try it, only with those peptides and more instead of just water 

[oldtimer1]

When I was rehabbing my bicep after surgery I saw the surgeon for follow up he asked me how I was lifting for the bicep and I said I train ut a lot but am mindful of the weights I use. He said no, we want you back 100% to your old loads, by now you should almost be back fully. This was maybe 12 weeks after I was cleared to start loading. Just don't yank the weights he said, otherwise you can go at 100%. Another friend said when he had surgery his surgeon said he was back 100% after 6 weeks, big guy with lots of muscle. Sounded a bit unbelievable after a full tear bicep surgery?

I remember on Elitefts, talking about Westside, when someone tore something and didn't require surgery they did prolotherapy with tons of water injections to stimulate a healing response. I have no idea if that is smart but I might try it, only with those peptides and more instead of just water 

My bicep ripped completely off the bone and rolled up to the delt. No way in hell would I be able to use heavy weights in 6 weeks. It took a couple of weeks for the nerve damage to go away too. Part of my hand was numb.

[joswift]

[Van_Bilderass]

My bicep ripped completely off the bone and rolled up to the delt. No way in hell would I be able to use heavy weights in 6 weeks. It took a couple of weeks for the nerve damage to go away too. Part of my hand was numb.

I still have some skin numbness after over 2 years. Muscle is as before for the most part, maybe just a tiny bit weaker than the other. Surgeon wrote, "patient came in surgery way too late," it was like 12 weeks after injury. Despite this, good result. Of course I know they should be done immediately but I can't rush the system here, pisses me off. I was amazed at what the guy was saying, "I took rehab extremely seriously, trained it every day, all day" etc but I was a bit skeptical but I don't have the expertise to say if it was bs.

[US MUSL]

I tore my bicep tendon at the shoulder.  Had it reattached three weeks later. After 19 weeks of physical therapy it was better than before the injury.

[Brenda Steunbeer]

If you need surgery you’ll definitely need to see a doc, no matter what.

Tri your best..

He needs to see a psychiatrist first.

[Humble Narcissist]

I tore my bicep tendon at the shoulder.  Had it reattached three weeks later. After 19 weeks of physical therapy it was better than before the injury.

How was it better than before?