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S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« on: November 04, 2024, 06:30:05 PM »
Retarded statement unless  Dauda has health issues. 600k reasons to defend it .
Jake Wood revealed bump from 400k to 600k right before Bob has announced  the  winner ,so 600k could become even more next year .
https://generationiron.com/shawn-ray-believes-samson-dauda-should-not-defend-title/

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2024, 10:25:01 PM »
600K won't help if you are posing in the cemetery. Ray is right, as usual.

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2024, 05:03:06 AM »
Ray himself competed for many years. Saying he should retire now is ridiculous. He still has a few more prime years ahead. Bodybuilders should mitigate the risks involved but they are not contracted to absorb peoples death fear projections.

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2024, 05:30:41 AM »
Ray himself competed for many years. Saying he should retire now is ridiculous. He still has a few more prime years ahead. Bodybuilders should mitigate the risks involved but they are not contracted to absorb peoples death fear projections.
Ray competed from being 17 till he retired at 36
Samson is 38, sure hes only been competing a short time compared to Shawn but we all know the drug use these days isnt waht it used to
90s bodybuilders were long retired before 38

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2024, 05:46:04 AM »
If Dauda is aware of any health issues ,doing regular check ups revealing some problems  then yes it is common sense to stop  /Justin Compton comes to mind /.If all is well why stop at the top making money.He will most likely win ASC that is another 500k .

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2024, 05:49:40 AM »
Ray competed from being 17 till he retired at 36
Samson is 38, sure hes only been competing a short time compared to Shawn but we all know the drug use these days isnt waht it used to
90s bodybuilders were long retired before 38

Mega dosing started back then. Ronnie was winning Olympias at 40.

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2024, 05:50:52 AM »
If Dauda is aware of any health issues ,doing regular check ups revealing some problems  then yes it is common sense to stop  /Justin Compton comes to mind /.If all is well why stop at the top making money.He will most likely win ASC that is another 500k .

Yes but just quitting because people enjoy thinking your going to drop dead is cowardly.

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2024, 05:51:09 AM »
Still bitter  over Dorian I guess.


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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2024, 05:52:54 AM »
Mega dosing started back then. Ronnie was winning Olympias at 40.
Ronnie was the exception , Haney retried with 8 at 31

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2024, 06:03:56 AM »
Samson should milk it until he is financially set, but yes it would be smart to take the health route as soon as possible.

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2024, 06:08:47 AM »
Time always proves Shawn Ray right


WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHh

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2024, 06:35:18 AM »
Ronnie was the exception , Haney retried with 8 at 31

No one  will ever duplicate it

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2024, 09:25:12 AM »
No one  will ever duplicate it
the days of consitancy are long gone
Haney was bang on every show, apart from the tested 90 and they were all off except Benfatto and Christian
Christian looked like he normally did and should have placed higher , it is the old "people get placed because its expected of the judges to do it that way"
Christian is normally around 5th so no matter what thats all hes going to get

Guys today are on so many different diuretics and other drugs its always going to be hit and miss

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2024, 09:41:19 AM »
Mega dosing started back then. Ronnie was winning Olympias at 40.

He dropped off tremendously from 41-42 however, and his best many would argue was 98/99 and 2001 Arnold

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2024, 10:10:16 AM »
the days of consitancy are long gone
Haney was bang on every show, apart from the tested 90 and they were all off except Benfatto and Christian
Christian looked like he normally did and should have placed higher , it is the old "people get placed because its expected of the judges to do it that way"
Christian is normally around 5th so no matter what thats all hes going to get

Guys today are on so many different diuretics and other drugs its always going to be hit and miss
BENFATTO benefitted that yr he overhauled his look ,if you see hom in amateur days 86/89 he was big with full dbol/test face huge arms,even legs 'large'but he still had his great shape just bigger.he was carved for that 90 show other than a lolipop look to him big head/hair.compared to his body

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2024, 10:11:38 AM »
BENFATTO benefitted that yr he overhauled his look ,if you see hom in amateur days 86/89 he was big with full dbol/test face huge arms,even legs 'large'but he still had his great shape just bigger.he was carved for that 90 show other than a lolipop look to him big head/hair.compared to his body
he should have cut his hair short  ;D

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2024, 10:12:18 AM »
he should have cut his hair short  ;D
lol

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2024, 10:17:56 AM »
Overall, Haney is the all-time greatest Mr. Olympia.

That he dominated almost a full decade and then retired as a young man is phenomenal.

And since then, he has remained a success, both professionally and personally.

I have hung and dined with Lee. He is a fantastic man.

Concerning Ray’s remarks, there’s absolute validity to what he says. Of course, everyone is entitled to do what he wants, but from a prestige and health standpoint, there is little argument against Shawn’s.

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2024, 10:23:08 AM »
I read where he was actually 39 and not 38. Either way he’s not retiring. He’s buying very expensive cars and spending like he’s nowhere near the end of his competition days. Look how many times he’s competed in the last two years alone.  At his age there’s no way to maintain this pace. He won’t be on top long.
Guys today like  to use the excuse of starting bodybuilding later in life as their excuse to blast gear when they’re older. They’ll learn the hard way.

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2024, 10:26:21 AM »
I read where he was actually 39 and not 38. Either way he’s not retiring. He’s buying very expensive cars and spending like he’s nowhere near the end of his competition days. Look how many times he’s competed in the last two years alone.  At his age there’s no way to maintain this pace. He won’t be on top long.
Guys today like  to use the excuse of starting bodybuilding later in life as their excuse to blast gear when they’re older. They’ll learn the hard way.
hes been claiming 32 for months, hes only just admitted to 38

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2024, 11:13:57 AM »
No one  will ever duplicate it

What age did Arnold Stop Competing

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2024, 11:16:26 AM »
What age did Arnold Stop Competing
about 27 I recall, he could have won 4 more up until 80
Then again he didnt have the competition Haney had, I think his first few Os was just him and Sergio then the overall

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2024, 11:16:49 AM »
Mega dosing started back then. Ronnie was winning Olympias at 40.


I think mega dosing started late 80's- could be wrong

I recall Andrew searle dying young. Andy honrby same.

and once borressen was speaking about his cycles everything went a bit Pete tong
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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2024, 11:32:45 AM »
about 27 I recall, he could have won 4 more up until 80
Then again he didnt have the competition Haney had, I think his first few Os was just him and Sergio then the overall

Arnold would've won at least 5-6 more Olympias if he'd continued on.

He could only compete against whoever turned up - It didn't stop
him looking Great in each Olympia.

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2024, 11:33:53 AM »
No one  will ever duplicate it

Arnold - Haney duplicated what Arnold had already done.