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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2024, 11:34:39 AM »
prime Arnold vs haney


I still prefer haney
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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2024, 11:39:50 AM »
Arnold would've won at least 5-6 more Olympias if he'd continued on.

He could only compete against whoever turned up - It didn't stop
him looking Great in each Olympia.
Of course, he would have beaten Robby Waller and Mentzer in the over 200 class and also beat Zane in 77,78,79

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2024, 11:42:20 AM »
bannout 82 v Arnold would have been a tough call
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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2024, 11:49:22 AM »
A couple things that stand out to me with Samson is his mentality towards competing. He competes alot. And as big man and in 2024, that's something not seen since the 90s. Gotta give the man the respect due. Outside of the way he left Milos, he makes it difficult to not like him.

Imo he should continue to compete in the big shows. Olympia, Arnold and some Sand Show. Get his contracts, guest pose, supplement company and other business ventures. Refine what he has. Imo he should come in a bit lighter for more conditioning. Continuing to focus on his back and biceps. His only legit competition is Andrew Jacked. I personally think Jacked has a higher peak. Anyway,
I see where Shawn is coming from but Samson is just getting started. We're talking  Nigerian Hebrew Genetics. Unmixed. Samson will be fine. He doesn't have a Ronnie run in him at this age but he could get 3 or 4.
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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2024, 01:02:35 PM »
Arnold - Haney duplicated what Arnold had already done.
I’ve stated no one will ,but Arnold  was closest thing to Lee :7 Sandows and retired at 33. /born 1947 and last win  in 1980/

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2024, 01:07:04 PM »
the days of consitancy are long gone
Haney was bang on every show, apart from the tested 90 and they were all off except Benfatto and Christian
Christian looked like he normally did and should have placed higher , it is the old "people get placed because its expected of the judges to do it that way"
Christian is normally around 5th so no matter what thats all hes going to get

Guys today are on so many different diuretics and other drugs its always going to be hit and miss
Regarding Christian I think just like Strydom and  Baker  they all got shafted after the return  from WBF.

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2024, 01:19:26 PM »
Samson is smart.
He does not limit himself to being Mr. Olympia but takes money and pleasure wherever he can.
Despite his age, he always seeks to progress, to understand why he lost and will bring something better next time.
In short, he is uninhibited about the Olympia, about the number of competitions he will do each year and will go for the biggest checks where they are.
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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2024, 01:58:02 PM »
bannout 82 v Arnold would have been a tough call

Yes - only Arnold would've improved.

On Arnold's 76 shape / condition it would've been a good match up.



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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2024, 03:53:05 PM »
Ronnie was the exception , Haney retried with 8 at 31

Haney retired on his own terms and in good health. Seemed to have his head screwed on and family priorities in order, too. Maybe not the most charismatic and mentioned O, but definitely my favourite. Just the perfect proportions and size.

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2024, 03:54:56 PM »
Haney retired on his own terms and in good health. Seemed to have his head screwed on and family priorities in order, too. Maybe not the most charismatic and mentioned O, but definitely my favourite. Just the perfect proportions and size.

In 86 he was called out for one comparison and then stood at the back of the stage for the rest of the pre-judging
Thats called dominating a line up

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« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2024, 03:59:59 PM »
A couple things that stand out to me with Samson is his mentality towards competing. He competes alot. And as big man and in 2024, that's something not seen since the 90s. Gotta give the man the respect due. Outside of the way he left Milos, he makes it difficult to not like him.

Imo he should continue to compete in the big shows. Olympia, Arnold and some Sand Show. Get his contracts, guest pose, supplement company and other business ventures. Refine what he has. Imo he should come in a bit lighter for more conditioning. Continuing to focus on his back and biceps. His only legit competition is Andrew Jacked. I personally think Jacked has a higher peak. Anyway,
I see where Shawn is coming from but Samson is just getting started. We're talking  Nigerian Hebrew Genetics. Unmixed. Samson will be fine. He doesn't have a Ronnie run in him at this age but he could get 3 or 4.

Solid post, Wiggs. He's in a good position to get himself set for life and make some bank. Go for next year, health permitting. I not a big fan of Andrew Jacked, tbh. What's your opinion on Bumstead trying to gear up for the open class? I just can't see it. He should have tried doing that 3, 4 years ago; not now

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2024, 04:03:17 PM »
In 86 he was called out for one comparison and then stood at the back of the stage for the rest of the pre-judging
Thats called dominating a line up

Excellent. Just a consistent and great all rounder.

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2024, 04:43:58 PM »
shawn rhoden was 42 when he won in 2018

none of them should compete into their 40's

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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2024, 05:00:21 PM »
Samson is smart.
He does not limit himself to being Mr. Olympia but takes money and pleasure wherever he can.
Despite his age, he always seeks to progress, to understand why he lost and will bring something better next time.
In short, he is uninhibited about the Olympia, about the number of competitions he will do each year and will go for the biggest checks where they are.

Sounds like bhanks.
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Re: S.Ray says Dauda should quit .
« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2024, 06:08:14 PM »
Bodybuilding is his occupation and he's currently art the height of his earning capacity, after spending decades getting to that point, whether he chooses to retire or continue is his decision alone as ultimately it is he who's health will fail or he who will ultimately benefit financially from continuing to risk it.  Basically Shaun should shut the fack up.