BigRo Contest

[BigRo]

Dyazide is a short acting diuretic, why would you be taking at anytime other than the night before or morning of the show, it only works for around 4 hours then stops

Aldactone yes a couple days before to keep water off

I have used both and they were a waste of time

The body continues to shed water well beyond those 4 hours with dyazide.

[BigRo]

the dyazide works because you start pissing after about 30 minutes, and you have control over it

they all just tend to take water out from everywhere, you end up looking flat

Its probably better to take laxatives because they draw water from the body to the bowel to help you shit
would also help if you wanted a flat stoimach and make weight

Have you tried laxatives for competition? Not just before stage I presume 

[joswift]

The body continues to shed water well beyond those 4 hours with dyazide.

I only used it twice and I must have been all pissed out as it stopped around 4-5 hours

[joswift]

Have you tried laxatives for competition? Not just before stage I presume 

Yes, was bunged up a couple days before and hadnt shit, my stomach and lower abs fely bloated

Just took herbal Ducolax, took 4 , I think you are only supposed to have 1, takes about 4-6 hours then splat

Last about a couple hours and they completely clear you out

It says overnight relief but I wouldnt take 4 before bed, not unless you wore a diaper like Spencer

[BigRo]

Yes, was bunged up a couple days before and hadnt shit, my stomach and lower abs fely bloated

Just took herbal Ducolax, took 4 , I think you are only supposed to have 1, takes about 4-6 hours then splat

Last about a couple hours and they completely clear you out

It says overnight relief but I wouldnt take 4 before bed, not unless you wore a diaper like Spencer

Did it have a drying effect on your look?

[joswift]

Did it have a drying effect on your look?

slightly, early morning dry , I always tend to look worse as the day goes on.
Ive never looked as good onstage as I have days before or days after.

Im not the best one to be giving advice on prep week to be honest

[BigRo]

Just out of curiosity, how much scale weight do you think the one Dyazide pulled off you? One tab spaced out sounds so little but apparently is enough to really deplete you.

My philosophy was to start half a tab a day on the sunday week before and then adjust over the days, perhaps even coming off it if too flat. Back in the day I remember Vince Taylor saying for optimal results you should actually come off it in the end, he though the water would come back in the muscle first, then the subcutaneous layer unlike when you start it.

Samson Dauda thought Milos almost killed him with 2 Dyazides over 3 days, went to the hospital and everything, but this isn't Lasix or Bumex or Demadex (Titus said he got into real trouble with that on the advice of Dorian).

I would do the masters class, why not, most everyone looks for the most advantageous lineup but I can see wanting to compete against the best. In the NPC, are the masters pro cards even "real" deserved pro cards but many take them to have that IFBB pro added to their IG names for business reasons. I'm sure there's a possibility you could gain IFBB status as well in the US via masters.

 

You could post your stack too but it invites the retards coming for you 

I don't think that much, I did not weigh after consumption as don't keep a scale at home, maybe 1kg going by how I feel. I know what 106kg feels like for example compared to 107/8 + but these small differences effect the physique alot.

[Grape Ape]

Hands on hips MM pose looks incredible.

Enjoyable watching your methodical and scientific approach, and also lifting heavy ass weight.

Congrats.

[Gym Rat]

Fantastic Job Ro... You look outstanding!

[OneMoreRep]

Congratulations Ro, very well deserved!

"1"

[tatoo]

awesome.. enjoy it!!!

[Van_Bilderass]

the dyazide works because you start pissing after about 30 minutes, and you have control over it

they all just tend to take water out from everywhere, you end up looking flat

Its probably better to take laxatives because they draw water from the body to the bowel to help you shit
would also help if you wanted a flat stoimach and make weight

Yes they take water from everywhere, that's the dilemma with them since the whole idea with carb loading is filling the muscle with water, and now you want to take it out  Vince Taylor's idea was to stop the diuretic a day or so out to allow the water to come back into the muscles, his idea was that it returned in that order unlike when you start it, then it comes from the muscle first. I don't know if there's anything to it. Seems like diuretic use has lessened a lot in recent years, few death and hospitalizations now. They do look softer nowadays, maybe partly because of that.

I'm sure laxatives are used but if used in combination with diuretics it might be a recipe for killing yourself.

I don't know if quinine is still used against cramps, but I remember 20 years ago Tom Prince saying everyone used it and was very effective. It's still sold by Chad Nicholls.

[joswift]

Yes they take water from everywhere, that's the dilemma with them since the whole idea with carb loading is filling the muscle with water, and now you want to take it out  Vince Taylor's idea was to stop the diuretic a day or so out to allow the water to come back into the muscles, his idea was that it returned in that order unlike when you start it, then it comes from the muscle first. I don't know if there's anything to it. Seems like diuretic use has lessened a lot in recent years, few death and hospitalizations now. They do look softer nowadays, maybe partly because of that.

I'm sure laxatives are used but if used in combination with diuretics it might be a recipe for killing yourself.

I don't know if quinine is still used against cramps, but I remember 20 years ago Tom Prince saying everyone used it and was very effective. It's still sold by Chad Nicholls.

tonic water containes quinine, I know people who drink that

[Van_Bilderass]

tonic water containes quinine, I know people who drink that

Yes I think it's a home remedy for cramps, don't know if there's enough quinine in there to be effective, many drinks I looked at at the grocery store don't even contain any quinine, just taste like they do. Quinine supposedly attaches to the magnesium receptor. Another theory I read was to swish something bitter like strong ginger in your mouth when cramping, something about it is supposed to relieve cramps.

[Wiggs]

Congrats on your pro card Ro! 

[Dalnet]

Incoming. More visible here day before than onstage, too much water sucked out from dyazide (1 spread over 24 hours, Thursday night to Friday night) You can see it in the fullness missing from my pecs also, granted this pic was taken after cooling down and coming off stage after overall then going back for a groupie with the big piece of cardboard.

Belated congratulations BR fantastic physique and result.

[Dalnet]

Yes they take water from everywhere, that's the dilemma with them since the whole idea with carb loading is filling the muscle with water, and now you want to take it out  Vince Taylor's idea was to stop the diuretic a day or so out to allow the water to come back into the muscles, his idea was that it returned in that order unlike when you start it, then it comes from the muscle first. I don't know if there's anything to it. Seems like diuretic use has lessened a lot in recent years, few death and hospitalizations now. They do look softer nowadays, maybe partly because of that.

I'm sure laxatives are used but if used in combination with diuretics it might be a recipe for killing yourself.

I don't know if quinine is still used against cramps, but I remember 20 years ago Tom Prince saying everyone used it and was very effective. It's still sold by Chad Nicholls.

Is there anybody you know that has tried Vince Taylors protocol for diuretics? Would be interesting to see whether there's any other cases of people whom see it returning to the muscle before other areas. I'm pretty clueless about diuretics and have no experience of them, but it's fascinating to hear about people's experiences with them. I put diuretics in the league of danger equivalent to DNP. The kind of stuff that's just too hardcore and belongs on the pro ranks.

[illuminati]

Is there anybody you know that has tried Vince Taylors protocol for diuretics? Would be interesting to see whether there's any other cases of people whom see it returning to the muscle before other areas. I'm pretty clueless about diuretics and have no experience of them, but it's fascinating to hear about people's experiences with them. I put diuretics in the league of danger equivalent to DNP. The kind of stuff that's just too hardcore and belongs on the pro ranks.

They're fine just make sure you know what you're doing & use sensibly

[joswift]

Yes I think it's a home remedy for cramps, don't know if there's enough quinine in there to be effective, many drinks I looked at at the grocery store don't even contain any quinine, just taste like they do. Quinine supposedly attaches to the magnesium receptor. Another theory I read was to swish something bitter like strong ginger in your mouth when cramping, something about it is supposed to relieve cramps.

back in the day if we were cramping it was a bag of crisps/chips to you Americans, something salty

[Marvin Martian]

slightly, early morning dry , I always tend to look worse as the day goes on.
Ive never looked as good onstage as I have days before or days after.

Im not the best one to be giving advice on prep week to be honest

What’s the fcks wrong with you being all humble on here!?!? lol

Hasn’t Brian taught you anything??? 😂

I am with you though. Even at my best show I looked like MUCHbetter the morning after. Not proud of that but it’s fckn difficult to nail it down.

[jude2]

Congrats iron brother.

[BigRo]

thanks all for the support.

I will be going to Amsterdam for the Worlds this coming weekend. I will do pro masters catagory. I was told that I would have the most developed physique, just bring it in as lean and dry as possible.

Diet has been clean today, no off diet meals and it will be a low carb protocol all week and try my best not to carb up until Saturday afternoon, then just a 1/4 dyazide Sunday morning.

4 hard days of training from tomorrow starting with legs. I need to practice rounds of posing more too, its hard work under those lights.

Van asked about my gear; a couple of months ago eq and deca were in there at around 300- 450mg eq, 300 deca, I stopped those and kept going with test,tren at 300/200, then masteron was added 2-300mgs, test was dropped a month out, mast increased up to 600 couple of weeks out, tren went up to 3-400. Then for orals I started winstrol about 5 weeks out 50mg a day with some days off because of indigestion, same with superdrol 20mgs a day occasionally 40mg pre workout for a huge pump. Stopped orals a week out due to gastric irritation but took a bit of both the day before. Then fat burners T3 and clen for a good while I guess, T3 went up to 100mcg a couple of weeks out, clen 120mcg. Lowered both a few days out to regain some fullness. Arimidex went up to 1mg every day a couple of weeks out and nolva was also used every other day or so at 20mg. Thats it, no growth hormone or insulin here, no massage sessions or hyperbaric chambers, just sauna, cold water, stretching and meditation for recovery and wellness.

Yes bodybuilding is a drug sport like many other extreme sports, its not a healthy game but I remain in good health. I will try to resist blowing up straight away in off season mode but do a long health phase, for my mind too.

[Dalnet]

thanks all for the support.

I will be going to Amsterdam for the Worlds this coming weekend. I will do pro masters catagory. I was told that I would have the most developed physique, just bring it in as lean and dry as possible.

Diet has been clean today, no off diet meals and it will be a low carb protocol all week and try my best not to carb up until Saturday afternoon, then just a 1/4 dyazide Sunday morning.

4 hard days of training from tomorrow starting with legs. I need to practice rounds of posing more too, its hard work under those lights.

Van asked about my gear; a couple of months ago eq and deca were in there at around 300- 450mg eq, 300 deca, I stopped those and kept going with test,tren at 300/200, then masteron was added 2-300mgs, test was dropped a month out, mast increased up to 600 couple of weeks out, tren went up to 3-400. Then for orals I started winstrol about 5 weeks out 50mg a day with some days off because of indigestion, same with superdrol 20mgs a day occasionally 40mg pre workout for a huge pump. Stopped orals a week out due to gastric irritation but took a bit of both the day before. Then fat burners T3 and clen for a good while I guess, T3 went up to 100mcg a couple of weeks out, clen 120mcg. Lowered both a few days out to regain some fullness. Arimidex went up to 1mg every day a couple of weeks out and nolva was also used every other day or so at 20mg. Thats it, no growth hormone or insulin here, no massage sessions or hyperbaric chambers, just sauna, cold water, stretching and meditation for recovery and wellness.

Yes bodybuilding is a drug sport like many other extreme sports, its not a healthy game but I remain in good health. I will try to resist blowing up straight away in off season mode but do a long health phase, for my mind too.

Thx for the honesty with the stack. Very informative.

Edit: wishing you the best for the Amsterdam show.

[irishdave]

Well done, Ronan! Awesome result, pro card and all. Didn’t know you were gone all in again.

Best of luck in the Dam!

[1Patrick]

Yes, was bunged up a couple days before and hadnt shit, my stomach and lower abs fely bloated

Just took herbal Ducolax, took 4 , I think you are only supposed to have 1, takes about 4-6 hours then splat

Last about a couple hours and they completely clear you out

It says overnight relief but I wouldnt take 4 before bed, not unless you wore a diaper like Spencer

Too complicated why just not follow Charlotte cup Champ’s  protocol