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Re: Unidentified Hero Guns Down United Healthcare CEO
« Reply #50 on: December 06, 2024, 03:15:29 AM »
How do we change the system if not violence? Government regulation on prices doesn't seem to be on the table.

Supply and Demand the government can not control prices

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Re: Unidentified Hero Guns Down United Healthcare CEO
« Reply #51 on: December 06, 2024, 03:18:40 AM »
Until the profit motive is taken out of health care nothing will change. CEO's like this guy can afford and will start employing security detail. Guess what? It won't come out of his 9.8 million dollar a year compensation it will be foisted upon their customers. Us.


Incorrect we need more free market in health care to reduce cost not price controls. The reason prices are through the roof is because there is no upfront pricing and competition. You don't know what you are going to pay before you sign up for care. If you knew the different cost at the different hospitals in advance you might pick the cheaper option. Instead, you don't care as they dont disclose up front and insurance covers it so you pay no attention as they charge you a thousand dollars to sleep in a cot for a night.

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Re: Unidentified Hero Guns Down United Healthcare CEO
« Reply #52 on: December 06, 2024, 05:47:52 AM »

Incorrect we need more free market in health care to reduce cost not price controls. The reason prices are through the roof is because there is no upfront pricing and competition. You don't know what you are going to pay before you sign up for care. If you knew the different cost at the different hospitals in advance you might pick the cheaper option. Instead, you don't care as they dont disclose up front and insurance covers it so you pay no attention as they charge you a thousand dollars to sleep in a cot for a night.

You couldn't be more wrong.  They don't disclose because people don't ask.  People don't pay attention because they haven't been taught.

1) Always ask if they have verified if the hospital AND the surgeon are in-network and the procedure requires pre-auth

2) Always ask if they have verified that the procedures are going to be covered.  If they give you some line about how they don't know what the surgeon/doctor wants to perform tell them to find out.  Its not like that doctor/surgeon hasn't performed the procedure before (they should be able to tell you what CPT codes will be billed)

3) Call you own insurance company and ask about your deductible and copay/coinsurance along with the CPT codes.  Ask if any of those require pre-authorization

4) AbrahamG is correct in that comment about profit.  Insurance companies are TOTALLY for profit.  A few years ago I believe it was Aetna that was busted for immediately denying ALL claims no matter what just to see who would fight for their money

5)  There's no competition pricing.  It is all based on YOUR insurance company.  There is something called 'reasonable and customary' fees.  They vary from company to company....not hospital to hospital or office to office.  What I get paid from BCBS is different than what I get paid by UHC / Aenta / Medicare / UMR / Ambetter / Amita/Etc.  So when you bitch about how much 'you' get charged.  Talk to your insurance company about how much they feel each procedure is worth to them NOT the facility.  They aren't making up the costs...your insurance carrier does. 

6) AFTER any procedure, look at your EOB's (explanation of benefits).  Look at the procedures that were done.  If you do not understand it, call the hospital/office.  Explain to them what each thing is if you need to.  That is YOUR right.   DO NOT focus on what is billed.  The 'allowed' amount is what you are concerned with (see below).  Providers/facilities bill way above what is allowed because they have to have ONE fee schedule across the board otherwise it could be construed as 'fee splitting'.  Look at how much less they are paying for the 72100 code.  If that procedure code was billed out of network, the reimbursement would be so much higher.


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Re: Unidentified Hero Guns Down United Healthcare CEO
« Reply #53 on: December 06, 2024, 05:49:23 AM »
Supply and Demand the government can not control prices

The government should take steps to create greater competition between health insurance companies. Currently, these companies operate almost as monopolies, with no oversight or accountability. When people need care, insurers implement blanket policies to deny coverage, forcing individuals to navigate a burdensome process just to access the care they need. This reduces costs for insurers, as they know people will give up rather than endure the extra hassle. To insulate themselves insurers outsource preauthorization processes to third parties, creating additional barriers while shielding themselves from legal repercussions. They hire lobbyists to get corrupt politicians to block efforts to allow competition across state lines. It is a scumbag industry.

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Re: Unidentified Hero Guns Down United Healthcare CEO
« Reply #54 on: December 06, 2024, 05:54:55 AM »
The government should take steps to create greater competition between health insurance companies. Currently, these companies operate almost as monopolies, with no oversight or accountability. When people need care, insurers implement blanket policies to deny coverage, forcing individuals to navigate a burdensome process just to access the care they need. This reduces costs for insurers, as they know people will give up rather than endure the extra hassle. To insulate themselves insurers outsource preauthorization processes to third parties, creating additional barriers while shielding themselves from legal repercussions. They hire lobbyists to get corrupt politicians to block efforts to allow competition across state lines. It is a scumbag industry.

Very very true.  It took me 10 days to get a pre-auth for a patient to get an MRI.  It shouldn't take that long.  His PCP couldn't get it done, so I did. 

UHC actually is a BIG culprit of 'fee capping'.  No matter what is done by the provider, you are capped for what is re-imbursed.  They claim it is to help save costs for their subscribers.  Bullshit.  People need some things done and they can't get their company to reimburse and then have to pay that cost out of their pocket and then bitch at the provider.

Evicore is the WORST when it comes to pre-auth.  Optum health is a close second.

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Re: Unidentified Hero Guns Down United Healthcare CEO
« Reply #56 on: December 06, 2024, 09:59:47 AM »
They will catch the shooter soon.

His picture is out there and someone will turn him in.

Definitely not a professional hit.

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Re: Unidentified Hero Guns Down United Healthcare CEO
« Reply #57 on: December 06, 2024, 10:14:49 AM »
I like how they only reveal skin color when its whitey.. LOL   ::)

The suspect was described as a white male wearing a coat, black face mask, and black and white sneakers.
Officials said he was carrying a gray backpack.

ever wonder why white people gunning down multiple people is considered a mass shooting but a drive by into a crowed isn’t? We’ve created a system of pandering to a race of people due to thing that happened to their ancestors not them

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Re: Unidentified Hero Guns Down United Healthcare CEO
« Reply #58 on: December 06, 2024, 10:44:25 AM »
They will catch the shooter soon.

His picture is out there and someone will turn him in.

Definitely not a professional hit.
I agree! The naming of the bullets reminds me of the underground groups during the 70's. He'll be caught due to his DNA left on his cups and water bottle and the picture of him maskless and smiling will cause someone to recognize him.

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Re: Unidentified Hero Guns Down United Healthcare CEO
« Reply #59 on: December 06, 2024, 11:12:18 AM »
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Re: Unidentified Hero Guns Down United Healthcare CEO
« Reply #60 on: December 06, 2024, 11:42:41 AM »

Nice  :)
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Re: Unidentified Hero Guns Down United Healthcare CEO
« Reply #61 on: December 06, 2024, 03:37:47 PM »

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Re: Unidentified Hero Guns Down United Healthcare CEO
« Reply #62 on: December 06, 2024, 05:07:27 PM »
Thoughts and...prayers.

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Re: Unidentified Hero Guns Down United Healthcare CEO
« Reply #63 on: December 06, 2024, 05:19:54 PM »

Incorrect we need more free market in health care to reduce cost not price controls. The reason prices are through the roof is because there is no upfront pricing and competition. You don't know what you are going to pay before you sign up for care. If you knew the different cost at the different hospitals in advance you might pick the cheaper option. Instead, you don't care as they dont disclose up front and insurance covers it so you pay no attention as they charge you a thousand dollars to sleep in a cot for a night.

Wrong.  If the profit motive is removed you'd be able to afford having your tits reduced.

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Re: Unidentified Hero Guns Down United Healthcare CEO
« Reply #64 on: December 06, 2024, 06:03:55 PM »
ever wonder why white people gunning down multiple people is considered a mass shooting but a drive by into a crowed isn’t?
That's not true at all.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Unidentified Hero Guns Down United Healthcare CEO
« Reply #65 on: December 07, 2024, 12:10:34 AM »
Roger Ailes, when he was alive and running Fox "News", was always accompanied by a bodyguard when inside the building that housed Fox "News".

When you are scared of your own staff...
A crazy leftist gunman could easily get in the building.

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Re: Unidentified Hero Guns Down United Healthcare CEO
« Reply #66 on: December 07, 2024, 12:25:16 AM »
They will catch the shooter soon.

His picture is out there and someone will turn him in.

Definitely not a professional hit.

Definitely not a professional hit. He took off his mask at some point. A professional hit man would know better.
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Re: Unidentified Hero Guns Down United Healthcare CEO
« Reply #67 on: December 07, 2024, 03:03:40 AM »
Luckily internet experts refuse to help the FBI:


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14167805/Internet-sleuths-UnitedHealthcare-CEO-Brian-Thompson-assassin.html


Hopefully this is the start of a new trend!

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Re: Unidentified Hero Guns Down United Healthcare CEO
« Reply #68 on: December 07, 2024, 03:07:16 AM »
Insurance executives and adjusters are worried now. Flew more blows to the head will help keep them in check.

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Re: Unidentified Hero Guns Down United Healthcare CEO
« Reply #69 on: December 07, 2024, 04:11:58 AM »
Insurance executives and adjusters are worried now. Flew more blows to the head will help keep them in check.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14164405/insurers-drastic-change-unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson-assassin-shooting.html

They are taking down the leadership information on the insurance company websites. They want to make millions in blood money and stay hidden from the public.

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Re: Unidentified Hero Guns Down United Healthcare CEO
« Reply #70 on: December 07, 2024, 04:41:03 AM »
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Re: Unidentified Hero Guns Down United Healthcare CEO
« Reply #71 on: December 07, 2024, 04:59:45 AM »
Denzel thinking of doing  John Q  2.0 based on true events.
Hopefully our top guy Wes gets tons of phone calls and every cancer treatment facility wants to take his case and not to feel his wrath.

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Re: Unidentified Hero Guns Down United Healthcare CEO
« Reply #72 on: December 07, 2024, 06:42:39 AM »
Good for him.



Confirms my opinion of the wacky sicko bodybuilding world.

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Re: Unidentified Hero Guns Down United Healthcare CEO
« Reply #73 on: December 07, 2024, 08:09:49 AM »


Confirms my opinion of the wacky sicko bodybuilding world.


I don’t think Rob has ever considered himself a bodybuilder. Imagine what you would have thought of people during any revolution in human history….. bad people doing bad things.

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Re: Unidentified Hero Guns Down United Healthcare CEO
« Reply #74 on: December 07, 2024, 08:24:33 AM »
Pretty clean hit. If only more kids did stuff like this instead of shooting up schools.