Nothing about Syria?

[Donny]

Which has been granted by the Russians.

He and his family are now in Moscow

Yes just saw it myself.  He decided against Iran 😁

[IroNat]

A truly seismic change in the Middle East appears to be happening very fast. At its heart is a devil’s bargain –

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2024/12/the-end-of-pluralism-in-the-middle-east/

[Irongrip400]

He's in Russia

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I wonder if he’s going to call himself “government in exile” and try and take power back?


Are Syrians a different type of Arab? He has blue eyes. Watching the news some of them look almost white. 

[Kwon]

I wonder if he’s going to call himself “government in exile” and try and take power back?


Are Syrians a different type of Arab? He has blue eyes. Watching the news some of them look almost white.

Persians claim to be different than Arabs too

Many folks in that region that don´t want to associate with the Arabic bloodline. WOnder why?

[mphgrove]

A truly seismic change in the Middle East appears to be happening very fast. At its heart is a devil’s bargain –

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2024/12/the-end-of-pluralism-in-the-middle-east/

Interesting article. I am trying to think about what it says. It basically tolerates Assad’s legacy (despite his terror and 5,000,000 Syrians having fled under his terror, or in refugee camps within the Syrian borders). BUT its point is that the new regime may be a Sunni ISIS terrorist type government that will be as bad or worse (e.g., impact on Christians and Shiites in both Lebanon and Syria). That is a valid fear, and time will tell.

We need to give our prayers to the hope that the new government will see the light and “go high”.

But just the same GOOD RIDDANCE to Assad and his Russian and Iranian sponsors!

By the way, having been in Damascus YEARS AGO, I would say that Syrians are very Arabic with very attractive genes. The men are well build, definite bodybuilding genes. That contrast with the Jordanians to the south of Syria who are skinnier types (Bedouin).

[obsidian]

I wonder if he’s going to call himself “government in exile” and try and take power back?


Are Syrians a different type of Arab? He has blue eyes. Watching the news some of them look almost white.

He was a reluctant leader. He never wanted it and studied medicine in Britain. His brother was slated to be the leader but died in a car crash.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bassel_al-Assad#Death

Bashar's wife also has cancer. He was worn out by the years of fighting in Russia and probably wants to support his wife in peace.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20181026-syria-pictures-of-assads-wife-in-hospital-for-cancer-treatment/

[obsidian]

If the new Syrian puppet regime (run by Mossad agents?) causes problems for Russia and Iran, why not send a few hypersonics, take them out and re-occupy the country?

[Kwon]

If the new Syrian puppet regime (run by Mossad agents?) causes problems for Russia and Iran, why not send a few hypersonics, take them out and re-occupy the country?

Maybe both Russia and Iran awaits the Orders from the Deep State, who is going to benefit from Syria and not?


We will know for sure after the Illuminati-meeting

[mphgrove]

He was a reluctant leader. He never wanted it and studied medicine in Britain. His brother was slated to be the leader but died in a car crash.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bassel_al-Assad#Death

Bashar's wife also has cancer. He was worn out by the years of fighting in Russia and probably wants to support his wife in peace.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20181026-syria-pictures-of-assads-wife-in-hospital-for-cancer-treatment/

Oh boo hoo cannot shed one tear for that guy and nobody should. Worse than the fentanyl guys in Mexico plus more dislocation of Syrians in the last 15 years than any place in the world.
The relationship of the new regime to Russia will be interesting to watch. But there won’t be any relationship between the new regime and Iran. They are on completely different sides of the spectrum. Although there is no telling or predicting in today’s world.

[obsidian]

Oh boo hoo cannot shed one tear for that guy and nobody should. Worse than the fentanyl guys in Mexico plus more dislocation of Syrians in the last 15 years than any place in the world.
The relationship of the new regime to Russia will be interesting to watch. But there won’t be any relationship between the new regime and Iran. They are on completely different sides of the spectrum. Although there is no telling or predicting in today’s world.

He is not looking for sympathy. As I explained he never really wanted to be the leader of Syria. He wants to take care of his wife.

Will the new Syrian regime be immune to hypersonic missiles? It sounds like this new puppet regime will be a friend of Israel and enemy of Iran. Well, that makes them prime targets for hypersonic missiles. This new regime can be removed just as easily as the one they replaced.

I do think Russia and Iran should seriously keep Turkey at a distance. That is probably what NATO wanted though.

Russia and Iran should immediately replace the Syrian regime if it becomes clear they are acting against their best interests. It should not be that hard to take them out.

[joswift]

He is not looking for sympathy. As I explained he never really wanted to be the leader of Syria. He wants to take care of his wife.

Will the new Syrian regime be immune to hypersonic missiles? It sounds like this new puppet regime will be a friend of Israel and enemy of Iran. Well, that makes them prime targets for hypersonic missiles. This new regime can be removed just as easily as the one they replaced.

I do think Russia and Iran should seriously keep Turkey at a distance. That is probably what NATO wanted though.

Russia and Iran should immediately replace the Syrian regime if it becomes clear they are acting against their best interests. It should not be that hard to take them out.

hope, they are going to take Jerusalem and liberate Gaza
https://theworldwatch.com/videos/1625407/the-islamic-terrorists-who-conquered-syria-saw-they-re-on-the-way-towards-israel-to-conquer-jerusalem-and-liberate-gaza/

[obsidian]

Maybe both Russia and Iran awaits the Orders from the Deep State, who is going to benefit from Syria and not?


We will know for sure after the Illuminati-meeting

lmao. Maybe, maybe not. Look at a map. Russia has all the land and resources they need. Syria is a strategic location. If this new Syrian puppet regime makes live hard for Russia and Iran they should be taken out.

[mphgrove]

They have their work cut out for themselves:

In one breath here we are saying,

“They are puppets of Israel and Israel has been supportive of this shift.”

In the next breath:

“Because they are ISIS type radicals (we don’t know that for sure), they (and especially the people they represent) will want Gaza liberated and Israel destroyed.”

Which is it or will it be? Who knows! But Israel is only one piece of the puzzle they will be dealing with.

Egypt and Jordan and especially Lebanon may encourage radical Syrian refugees in their midst to go back home.

Iraq (recently leaning Iran’s way) may not be happy with the new Syria.

If they don’t get too crazy, Saudi Arabia and Gulf States will cut them slack and wait and see. Those countries are deeply conservative Sunni based dictatorships who don’t have any fond feelings toward Iran and who go somewhat back and forth between US and Russia (mainly lean US).

Cannot figure Turkey out on all this. Turkey has been controlling one of the occupation zones inside Assad’s Syria. The Kurds have been controlling another. Will these occupation zones persist or will they fold into the new regime? Turkey is adamantly opposed to the Kurds.

[mphgrove]

He is not looking for sympathy. As I explained he never really wanted to be the leader of Syria. He wants to take care of his wife.

Will the new Syrian regime be immune to hypersonic missiles? It sounds like this new puppet regime will be a friend of Israel and enemy of Iran. Well, that makes them prime targets for hypersonic missiles. This new regime can be removed just as easily as the one they replaced.

I do think Russia and Iran should seriously keep Turkey at a distance. That is probably what NATO wanted though.

Russia and Iran should immediately replace the Syrian regime if it becomes clear they are acting against their best interests. It should not be that hard to take them out.

Oh since Russia and Iran cannot seem to impact Israel in any way, they should now shift their attention toward sending missiles into Syria because their puppet has been dislodged??? I would not recommend to those great nations that they put you on any advisory committees.

[Humble Narcissist]

Persians claim to be different than Arabs too

Many folks in that region that don´t want to associate with the Arabic bloodline. WOnder why?

I don't know. Why wouldn't you want to be associated with a group that has such a good reputation?

[1Patrick]

It pays off to be in charge of Syria

[GymnJuice]

Israeli troops are close to Damascus

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israeli-troops-near-damascus-say-syrian-security-after-israeli-airtsikes-hit-syrian-bases/ar-AA1vA1gs?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=fba270fc90494b96a72f1c0f373acfe6&ei=41

An Israeli military incursion into Syria has reached about 25 km (16 miles) southwest of Damascus, Syrian security sources said on Tuesday, after Israel seized a buffer zone in southern Syria and launched air strikes on Syrian army and air bases overnight.

I think if Turkey has designs on Syrian territory, then they should advance their troops too so they can claim whatever lands they wanted. It will probably end up a "first come first served" situation.

[mphgrove]

Israeli troops are close to Damascus

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israeli-troops-near-damascus-say-syrian-security-after-israeli-airtsikes-hit-syrian-bases/ar-AA1vA1gs?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=fba270fc90494b96a72f1c0f373acfe6&ei=41

I think if Turkey has designs on Syrian territory, then they should advance their troops too so they can claim whatever lands they wanted. It will probably end up a "first come first served" situation.

Israel is always the headline grabber but the real upcoming action may be the ex-ISIS, Turkey, Kurd scenarios now that Assad and Iran are moved to the side.

The bottom line: a huge portion of the rebels now moving into the forefront are ex-ISIS. Will their new leader keep them in line?

The ISIS angle terrifies Turkey. Turkey has waged war against ISIS along with the rest of us. And we won (well oops, now some of them may be unleashed again).

But Turkey especially hates the Kurds (our US allies in Iraq as well as torn-up Syria)! The new leader of Syria also is indicating he has no use for the Kurds. Kurds, by the way, have ISIS folks in refugee camps under their control in one of the break-away sections of Syria. How is the new leader going to handle that, for example?

Guarantee Erdogan is on the phone with the new leader. Maybe he will influence him in a more moderate direction. He definitely will be advocating against the Kurds.

[joswift]

Assad was supposed to be a brutal dictator killing his own people.
Hes now gone, missiles now incoming from Israel to destroy weapons depots to stop them falling into the hands of terrorists who may wish Israel harm.

But it was OK with Israel when Assad had them

[Fortress]

Fuck Syria.

Land of filthy Muzzies and Islam.

[mphgrove]

Assad was supposed to be a brutal dictator killing his own people.
Hes now gone, missiles now incoming from Israel to destroy weapons depots to stop them falling into the hands of terrorists who may wish Israel harm.

But it was OK with Israel when Assad had them

Exactly my point. The world (including Israel as you point out) looked away from Assad. His crimes, to a large extent, created ISIS which existed inside Syria more than anywhere else. The US looked away and the world, of course, focused on Israel’s sins and felt Syria was too complicated to figure out.

Israel has its own evils it is dealing with but the Syria thing really has very little to do with Israel, other than Iran before it has been weakened, was a huge threat to the people of both nations.

[joswift]

Exactly my point. The world (including Israel as you point out) looked away from Assad. His crimes, to a large extent, created ISIS which existed inside Syria more than anywhere else. The US looked away and the world, of course, focused on Israel’s sins and felt Syria was too complicated to figure out.

Israel has its own evils it is dealing with but the Syria thing really has very little to do with Israel.

the USA is funding Israel and sees it as one of its biggest allies.,

In total, the United States spent $17.9 billion on military aid to Israel from October 2023 to October 2024, a record for a single year, as estimated by the Costs of War Project at Brown University.

[mphgrove]

You are correct, the “world at large” in my prior post does not include the US. We have stood by Israel and looked away from their sins. The US and everybody else except for Russia and Iran have looked away from Syria’s sins (far worse, but that is just one man’s opinion). Too complex and complicated and then ISIS complicated the equation.

[joswift]

You are correct, the “world at large” in my prior post does not include the US. We have stood by Israel and looked away from their sins. The US and everybody else except for Russia and Iran have looked away from Syria’s sins (far worse, but that is just one man’s opinion). Too complex and complicated.

"let he who is without sin cast the first stone"

Every single nation and country on earth has and still commits atrocites in wartime

[mphgrove]

"let he who is without sin cast the first stone"

Every single nation and country on earth has and still commits atrocites in wartime

Tell that to the people in Aleppo or Homs (his own citizens) if you are talking about Assad. More than 5,000,000 Syrians (many of the radicalized now) have had to flee their nation. The population of Syria is 25,000,000.