The Breon Ansley effect? Women's Figure competitor posts her cycle.

[io]

UK figure competitor/coach posted her cycle for first week of prep. Nice to see more pros talking about this. 4.5mg test... seeing a number that low is wild.

Weight start of prep (Sunday): 184.8lbs
Weight today (Saturday): 180.6lbs

PEDs:
40mcg Clen
100mg T4
25mcg T3
4.5mg Fem Test (weekly)
3iu GH

[joswift]

4.5mgs FFS they must be getting fleeced the silly bitches

Its only £25 for 3gms test, no ones going to break that down to a reasonable priced vial
it would be about 5 pence a vial

[visualizeperfection]

4.5mgs FFS they must be getting fleeced the silly bitches

Its only £25 for 3gms test, no ones going to break that down to a reasonable priced vial
it would be about 5 pence a vial

How do you even dose that? Like pull the plunger to 3/32nds of the first line?

[falco]

Great receptors of GH in her forehead.

[joswift]

How do you even dose that? Like pull the plunger to 3/32nds of the first line?

they must be making vials with 45mgs per ml and you use 1 tenth of a slin pin per week

[Kwon]

[visualizeperfection]

they must be making vials with 45mgs per ml and you use 1 tenth of a slin pin per week

Have you heard of people diluting standard 200mg/ml to 45mg/ml? Is this a thing? Just adding more oil?

Such a small amount of oil, slin pin into the belly thigh?

[joswift]

Have you heard of people diluting standard 200mg/ml to 45mg/ml? Is this a thing? Just adding more oil?

Such a small amount of oil, slin pin into the belly thigh?

I dont think that would work, it needs to be dissolved as a whole

[JK]

Good thing her dealer didn't sell her a 400 mg/ml test bottle 

[a_pupil]

what is fem test and how do they dose so low?

no way 4.5 mg produces a ripped 180 lbs chick lol.

Even those top genetics chicks from the balco scandal weren't this big, despite having "the clear" in their stack as well.

[deadz]

[Van_Bilderass]

Of course it would be easy to break down a regular test amp. You should be sure your product is exact otherwise a bad idea for a woman.

[njflex]

 Wonder her stage weight.

[io]

Wonder her stage weight.

She said 148 on show day.

[Brenda Steunbeer]

And not a word about the huge sums of prizemoney she wins every year

[Van_Bilderass]

You think she's under-declaring her peds? She'd probably get 4.5 mg extra test from swallowing a load a week (no shizzo).

Most likely she is. I think it's because of the 'approved PED' cycles nowadays I wrote about in threads, an Overton window kinda like. She does this and in some people's view she hasn't really even crossed over yet, it's just "HRT" with all bioidentical hormones. They say women epecially are very sensitive to social pressures of what's acceptable. This is me being armchair psych 

Otoh a stack like this is 'elegant' and might give noticeable gains over time. I support this kind of thing. Say this doubles her natural test, gh kinda hard for me to say but let's say tripples her gh, at least causes unnatural peaks after injection.
Then you have the clen that gives a little gains over time, lowers BF a little. And of course the thyroids which fall during natural diets.

What do you think about my thoughts?

[Van_Bilderass]

To me, the test dosage seem way too small to do anything for a 5'6+ woman. The hgh is decent but there's no anabolic. I could believe it if she said .1 ml of a test amp a week.

But I honestly would love to hear a female's perspective on such low dose cycles. If I ever go on trt, it makes sense to give the wife something as well.

But let's say she produces maybe 1-2mg naturally, that increased dose might do plenty? Can't say much because I haven't observed any. When you say anabolic I take it you mean an anabolic steroids. But as you know 'test the androgen' is more anabolic than most 'anabolics' 

I don't have a wife but if I did I would confidently nudge her in that direction 
Some women were saying how they were always told that estrogen was maybe good to supplement getting older, but after femtest that hit the right spot for wellbeing 

[ESFitness]

if I'm a pro bodybuilder who's income depends on how much better I am than my competitors, why on earth would I tell them what I'm doing?

that's like a race car driver telling other drivers our car runs on 87 octane.

fools.

[visualizeperfection]

if I'm a pro bodybuilder who's income depends on how much better I am than my competitors, why on earth would I tell them what I'm doing?

that's like a race car driver telling other drivers our car runs on 87 octane.

fools.

I’ve heard of race car drivers running over 6 grams of diesel fuel and still having track bros ask “do you even race”. It’s a wild world we live in.

[joswift]

if I'm a pro bodybuilder who's income depends on how much better I am than my competitors, why on earth would I tell them what I'm doing?

that's like a race car driver telling other drivers our car runs on 87 octane.

fools.

You could tell them what you are doing, everyone reacts differently to drugs, it makes no difference to me to know what you are doing drug wise...

[ESFitness]

You could tell them what you are doing, everyone reacts differently to drugs, it makes no difference to me to know what you are doing drug wise...

doesn't matter. the psychology behind telling people (people competing against you and the general public) what you're doing to beat them is flawed and inherently dishonest.

is Google telling Bing what kind of XYZ-algorithms they're using to keep their market cap? probably not. else employee's wouldn't have non-compete clauses and NDA's in their employment agreements.

at the Range Rover dealership down the road, the top producer Eddie isn't telling Pam, Todd, and Susie his secret to closing a deal so they can get the $2k bonus next month. No, he's gonna say "I just tell them 'buy the car or I'll punch you!' and they buy the cars. I dunno why you guys can't sell, maybe try it like me?".

if a guy I see every day asks me "how do I get big like you?", I'm not gonna tell him to shoot 2iu gh 8x/day, inject 3cc's testosterone cyp or enanthate in each delt twice a week, and 300mg anadrol pre workout, and to train 5days a week and eat at least 250-300 grams of protein a day. I'm gonna tell him maybe go to a dr and see about getting on TRT cuz "that's what im on", and workout 3-4 days a week and maybe add a scoop of whey protein post workout. I see that guy every day, we're in the same space, same business/company... so he's my "competition". Reminds me of what Nasser told me in 99 when I was 17 asking about insulin. he said, paraphrased "I'll help you a little bit and I tell you this because you're not a competitor of mine and you will never be a competitor of mine" and went on to talk about insulin and also said that at that point, the only thing that allowed him to continue to make "gains"/improve was GH. also reminds me of Arnold telling everyone Primo as better than Deca and that 'big guys only need 3 dbol/day' while he was eating them by the bottle.

even when they're retired. the mentality seems, and understandably so, given how many Incels live amongst us now, that then more PEDs you admit to taking, the less value your "legacy" has, or the less your success is to be admired. Like Barry Bonds *home run record and the astrisk. It's not cheating if everyone is doing it. Someone who doesn't want to use more PED's and uses that as an excuse as to why they're not "winning" or they don't look how they wish is no different from someone who doesn't want to adhere to a diet, misses workouts or skips cardio.

[joswift]

doesn't matter. the psychology behind telling people (people competing against you and the general public) what you're doing to beat them is flawed and inherently dishonest.

is Google telling Bing what kind of XYZ-algorithms they're using to keep their market cap? probably not. else employee's wouldn't have non-compete clauses and NDA's in their employment agreements.

at the Range Rover dealership down the road, the top producer Eddie isn't telling Pam, Todd, and Susie his secret to closing a deal so they can get the $2k bonus next month. No, he's gonna say "I just tell them 'buy the car or I'll punch you!' and they buy the cars. I dunno why you guys can't sell, maybe try it like me?".

if a guy I see every day asks me "how do I get big like you?", I'm not gonna tell him to shoot 2iu gh 8x/day, inject 3cc's testosterone cyp or enanthate in each delt twice a week, and 300mg anadrol pre workout, and to train 5days a week and eat at least 250-300 grams of protein a day. I'm gonna tell him maybe go to a dr and see about getting on TRT cuz "that's what im on", and workout 3-4 days a week and maybe add a scoop of whey protein post workout. I see that guy every day, we're in the same space, same business/company... so he's my "competition". Reminds me of what Nasser told me in 99 when I was 17 asking about insulin. he said, paraphrased "I'll help you a little bit and I tell you this because you're not a competitor of mine and you will never be a competitor of mine" and went on to talk about insulin and also said that at that point, the only thing that allowed him to continue to make "gains"/improve was GH. also reminds me of Arnold telling everyone Primo as better than Deca and that 'big guys only need 3 dbol/day' while he was eating them by the bottle.

even when they're retired. the mentality seems, and understandably so, given how many Incels live amongst us now, that then more PEDs you admit to taking, the less value your "legacy" has, or the less your success is to be admired. Like Barry Bonds *home run record and the astrisk. It's not cheating if everyone is doing it. Someone who doesn't want to use more PED's and uses that as an excuse as to why they're not "winning" or they don't look how they wish is no different from someone who doesn't want to adhere to a diet, misses workouts or skips cardio.

trust me, thats never going to happen to you...

You are using silly comparisons with AI and selling cars.

You can tell someone exactly what to say when selling a car , linguistically there are no secrets.
Some people have charm and character, thats why they sell

If I asked you your drug stack and you told me truthfully what you were on I would burst out laughing, dont you forget we have all seen you at your best?

we remember your 6gms is the sweet spot stupidity

And if you did indeed tell someone you were on TRT then Im pretty sure that they would believe you.

If you want to come back with anything come back with a current pic, you were at deaths door with open abcesses last year

[ESFitness]

trust me, thats never going to happen to you...

You are using silly comparisons with AI and selling cars.

You can tell someone exactly what to say when selling a car , linguistically there are no secrets.
Some people have charm and character, thats why they sell

If I asked you your drug stack and you told me truthfully what you were on I would burst out laughing, dont you forget we have all seen you at your best?

we remember your 6gms is the sweet spot stupidity

And if you did indeed tell someone you were on TRT then Im pretty sure that they would believe you.

If you want to come back with anything come back with a current pic, you were at deaths door with open abcesses last year

that gaslighting shit you do is old. aren't you close to 60? grow up

im sure there's weirdo's still on my IG if you want to see a recent pic

[joswift]

that gaslighting shit you do is old. aren't you close to 60? grow up

im sure there's weirdo's still on my IG if you want to see a recent pic

You need to look up the definition of gaslighting

What have I wrote that isnt true?

I have no idea what your instagram account is,  there are lots of ESFitness accounts but none of them you,  I understand why you dont want to post photos

[ESFitness]

You need to look up the definition of gaslighting

What have I wrote that isnt true?

I have no idea what your instagram account is,  there are lots of ESFitness accounts but none of them you,  I understand why you dont want to post photos

Lol @ you thinking I give a shit about your approval enough to post a picture here 😂😂😂😂 

Like your opinion means shit lol look at the arrogance on you  lol 😂😂😂