Prescribed terrorist organisation overthrows Assad regime

[joswift]

UK government rushes to take them off the prescribed terrorist list.

Imagine being a relative of a soildier who died fighting these fucking savages then watching the very government who sent your family to die now snuggling up to them.

[IroNat]

Roughly 900 US Troops Still in Syria as Rebels Close in on Damascus

https://www.commondreams.org/news/us-troops-in-syria

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Kamala Harris’ claim that there are no active duty U.S. troops in any war zone

https://www.khou.com/article/news/verify/kamala-harris/kamala-harris-claim-no-active-duty-us-troops-in-any-war-zone-needs-context/536-8e00529b-63f8-454f-a3b0-9c0d9e8317d8

[Gym Rat]

Kakkle-Kvnt lying again?

Choking on a caulk??

[Griffith]

So the current leader of this group was part of Al-Queda and ISIS.

Al-Golani's ties to al-Qaida stretch back to 2003, when he joined extremists battling U.S. troops in Iraq. The Syrian native was detained by the U.S. military but remained in Iraq. During that time, al-Qaida usurped like-minded groups and formed the extremist Islamic State of Iraq, led by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

In 2011, a popular uprising against Syria's Assad triggered a brutal government crackdown and led to all-out war. Al-Golani's prominence grew when al-Baghdadi sent him to Syria to establish a branch of al-Qaida called the Nusra Front. The United States labeled the new group as a terrorist organization. That designation still remains in place and the U.S. government has put a $10 million bounty on him.

As Syria's civil war intensified in 2013, so did al-Golani's ambitions. He defied al-Baghdadi's calls to dissolve the Nusra Front and merge it with al-Qaida's operation in Iraq, to form the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, or ISIS.

Al-Golani nonetheless pledged his allegiance to al-Qaida, which later disassociated itself from ISIS. The Nusra Front battled ISIS and eliminated much of its competition among the Syrian armed opposition to Assad.

In his first interview in 2014, al-Golani kept his face covered, telling a reporter for Qatari network Al-Jazeera that he rejected political talks in Geneva to end the conflict. He said his goal was to see Syria ruled under Islamic law and made clear that there was no room for the country's Alawite, Shiite, Druze and Christian minorities.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/abu-mohammed-al-golani-syria-assad-who-is/

[The Scott]

Time to rearrange the old adage, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" to:

The enemy of my enemy needs a fuckin' MOAB enema...Now!  There is no place in a Civilized World for siliconegroes.

[GymnJuice]

UK government rushes to take them off the prescribed terrorist list.

Imagine being a relative of a soildier who died fighting these fucking savages then watching the very government who sent your family to die now snuggling up to them.

The words "terrorist" and "terrorism" have lost much of their original meaning. Governments wield these terms to justify expedited arrests and the curtailment of rights. Foreign leaders, once allies, are suddenly labeled as terrorists when their interests no longer align with ours. Think Saddam Hussein or Robert Mugabe, among others.

[joswift]

The words "terrorist" and "terrorism" have lost much of their original meaning. Governments wield these terms to justify expedited arrests and the curtailment of rights. Foreign leaders, once allies, are suddenly labeled as terrorists when their interests no longer align with ours. Think Saddam Hussein or Robert Mugabe, among others.

yep, Gadaffi as well

These people we end up getting rid of are ones keeping the savages in their countries in check
We remove them we unleash the shitbags on the world

[joswift]

oops, people who have overthrown Assad are now on their way to Israel to liberate Gaza

Looks like they will be terrorists again by teatime.
https://theworldwatch.com/videos/1625407/the-islamic-terrorists-who-conquered-syria-saw-they-re-on-the-way-towards-israel-to-conquer-jerusalem-and-liberate-gaza/

[obsidian]

So the current leader of this group was part of Al-Queda and ISIS.

Al-Golani's ties to al-Qaida stretch back to 2003, when he joined extremists battling U.S. troops in Iraq. The Syrian native was detained by the U.S. military but remained in Iraq. During that time, al-Qaida usurped like-minded groups and formed the extremist Islamic State of Iraq, led by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

In 2011, a popular uprising against Syria's Assad triggered a brutal government crackdown and led to all-out war. Al-Golani's prominence grew when al-Baghdadi sent him to Syria to establish a branch of al-Qaida called the Nusra Front. The United States labeled the new group as a terrorist organization. That designation still remains in place and the U.S. government has put a $10 million bounty on him.

As Syria's civil war intensified in 2013, so did al-Golani's ambitions. He defied al-Baghdadi's calls to dissolve the Nusra Front and merge it with al-Qaida's operation in Iraq, to form the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, or ISIS.

Al-Golani nonetheless pledged his allegiance to al-Qaida, which later disassociated itself from ISIS. The Nusra Front battled ISIS and eliminated much of its competition among the Syrian armed opposition to Assad.

In his first interview in 2014, al-Golani kept his face covered, telling a reporter for Qatari network Al-Jazeera that he rejected political talks in Geneva to end the conflict. He said his goal was to see Syria ruled under Islamic law and made clear that there was no room for the country's Alawite, Shiite, Druze and Christian minorities.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/abu-mohammed-al-golani-syria-assad-who-is/

The US will use people when they are useful. And then turn on them. Saddam was once an ally of the US. Then look what happened to him.

These terrorists are morons. Now the US just bombed 75 ISIS targets. And the US created ISIS. Why anyone makes deals with them is a mystery. I would never trust the leadership of the US Deep State. Russia should never make any deals. They were already deceived at Minsk. The only solution is to exterminate the Deep State. They need to be dead. The world will be better once they are gone.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/the-us-military-struck-75-isis-targets-in-syria-as-assad-s-government-fell/ar-AA1vuBic

The US military struck 75 ISIS targets in Syria as Assad's government fell

- The US military struck ISIS targets in Syria on Sunday as rebel groups toppled the government.
- Longtime Syrian leader Bashar Assad fled Damascus for Moscow.
- President Joe Biden said US forces would remain in Syria to fight ISIS.

[obsidian]

Why does Russia and Iran (and China?) not use the same tactic and arm rebels to make live miserable for the occupying forces in Syria? It is probably only a matter of time before this happens.

[Skeletor]

The words "terrorist" and "terrorism" have lost much of their original meaning. Governments wield these terms to justify expedited arrests and the curtailment of rights. Foreign leaders, once allies, are suddenly labeled as terrorists when their interests no longer align with ours. Think Saddam Hussein or Robert Mugabe, among others.

Because they are no different.

[joswift]

20 years to keep the Taliban out of Afghanistan only to give it back to them
2,500 US lives lost in thne process

[obsidian]

UK government rushes to take them off the prescribed terrorist list.

Imagine being a relative of a soildier who died fighting these fucking savages then watching the very government who sent your family to die now snuggling up to them.

That's because the US created them in the first place - to make a bogey man which they can attack. Once that's over they can release them. Israel also creates Hamas. They need the bogey man so they can have the wars, expansions, land grabs, and beachfront property in Gaza.

[joswift]

That's because the US created them in the first place - to make a bogey man which they can attack. Once that's over they can release them. Israel also creates Hamas. They need the bogey man so they can have the wars, expansions, land grabs, and beachfront property in Gaza.

yep, level the place and make it like Egypt

[GymnJuice]

The US will use people when they are useful. And then turn on them. Saddam was once an ally of the US. Then look what happened to him.

These terrorists are morons. Now the US just bombed 75 ISIS targets. And the US created ISIS. Why anyone makes deals with them is a mystery. I would never trust the leadership of the US Deep State. Russia should never make any deals. They were already deceived at Minsk. The only solution is to exterminate the Deep State. They need to be dead. The world will be better once they are gone.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/the-us-military-struck-75-isis-targets-in-syria-as-assad-s-government-fell/ar-AA1vuBic

The US military struck 75 ISIS targets in Syria as Assad's government fell

- The US military struck ISIS targets in Syria on Sunday as rebel groups toppled the government.
- Longtime Syrian leader Bashar Assad fled Damascus for Moscow.
- President Joe Biden said US forces would remain in Syria to fight ISIS.

Trump should announce that any U.S. troops deployed to Syria will be recalled immediately upon his return to office. His earlier tweet stating that "the United States should have nothing to do with it" seems like a genuine attempt to preempt Biden from deploying troops there in the first place.

[mphgrove]

Yes, it will be interesting to see what Trump does. Our troops there have everything to do with maintaining the defeat of ISIS there without having anything directly to do with supporting the Assad regime. Our troops may also be involved with some of the “refugee zones” Assad lost control of. Will the new regime be ISIS all over again (very possible, but let’s hope not)? If they turn out to be just that, Trump will have a very hard time disengaging.

[Skeletor]

It's gonna be an interesting year or 2 in the middle east.

The dominoes started falling in the region when the USA took out Saddam for whatever bullshit reason. The guy was a real G and kept everyone under manners.

George Dubya was a retard lol.

We misunderestimated him!

[mphgrove]

It's gonna be an interesting year or 2 in the middle east.

The dominoes started falling in the region when the USA took out Saddam for whatever bullshit reason. The guy was a real G and kept everyone under manners.

George Dubya was a retard lol.

Looking back, I kind of sort of agree. Saddam had Christians, Sunnis, Kurds, Shiites, Assyrians to some extent all living together. I do not know too much about the current government of Iraq.

But going into Kuwait was a problem. I don’t think any Kuwaitis would tolerate what we are saying here about Saddam.

In that vein, don’t run any defense of Saddam by the Oxygen Gym crowd. They will tell us where to shove it. In addition to the schmoe factor, their gratitude to the US is an important reason why they treat the American bodybuilders so well. That was Bush Senior, but they would never call that aspect a “whatever bullshit reason.”

[Humble Narcissist]

20 years to keep the Taliban out of Afghanistan only to give it back to them
2,500 US lives lost in thne process

This is why young people should refuse military service.

[mphgrove]

Actually the gulf war + the aftermath of the afghan war was the original catalyst of today's fuckery. No gulf war, no OBL.

Bush snr should have just told them camel jockeys to toughen up and fight it out.

Agree the whole area is a mess and that USA going in, regardless as to whether mercenary or well intentioned, has not really helped, and maybe has hurt. It’s just when you look at the evil involved in the individual situations (be it Saddam marching into Kuwait, Assad downright ruining his own nation, or ISIS State terror and cruelty that was recently within Syria and Iraq, it’s hard to stay out (for me anyway), but I see the logic of the alternative argument.

[Van_Bilderass]

Actually the gulf war + the aftermath of the afghan war was the original catalyst of today's fuckery. No gulf war, no OBL.

Bush snr should have just told them camel jockeys to toughen up and fight it out.

The wars were a Jewish project by The Neocons (aka Jews). American Jews and some others pushing through Israeli interests. Iran war is something the Jews are determined to have, fought by non-Jew Americans.

[mphgrove]

The wars were a Jewish project by The Neocons (aka Jews). American Jews and some others pushing through Israeli interests. Iran war is something the Jews are determined to have, fought by non-Jew Americans.

It is actually very insulting to the Arab world to put everything at the doorstep of Israel. As if they are a nondescript uninteresting blob of people who have no complexities of their own,

[Van_Bilderass]

It is actually very insulting to the Arab world to put everything at the doorstep of Israel. As if they are a nondescript uninteresting blob of people who have no complexities of their own,

Yes, reality is more complex but at some point someone has to decide on some root causes to explain anything. The US has done a lot of evil, but there are complexities when you analyze it.

I don't think there is any historian who doesn't think the Jews and Israel, or has had an outsize negative influence on some of the miseries in the ME. "Greater Israel" and the supremacist attitude is hard to take for many.

Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.”

“In Israel, death has no dominion over them… With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but [God] will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money.

“This is his servant… That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew.”

“Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat… That is why gentiles were created.” - Chief Rabbi Ovadia.

Ovdia and Amalek killer

[_bruce_]

Yes, reality is more complex but at some point someone has to decide on some root causes to explain anything. The US has done a lot of evil, but there are complexities when you analyze it.

I don't think there is any historian who doesn't think the Jews and Israel, or has had an outsize negative influence on some of the miseries in the ME. "Greater Israel" and the supremacist attitude is hard to take for many.

Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.”

“In Israel, death has no dominion over them… With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but [God] will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money.

“This is his servant… That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew.”

“Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat… That is why gentiles were created.” - Chief Rabbi Ovadia.

Ovdia and Amalek killer

Shutdown mode imminent