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Quantum + AI = scary potential
« on: December 09, 2024, 09:01:07 PM »
At this rate, in 5 years, all movies, music, digital content,  will be AI generated and movie stars, musicians, content creators will be a thing of the past.
(If the claims here are accurate)

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Elon Musk is wowed by Google’s new quantum chip, which it claims ‘cracks a key challenge’ that’s existed for almost 3 decades

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/elon-musk-wowed-google-quantum-221836303.html

Google is turning heads—including that of world’s richest man, Elon Musk—with the announcement of its new quantum chip, called Willow.

In a Monday blog post, Hartmut Neven, founder and lead for Google Quantum AI, said the Willow chip paves the way for a full-scale quantum computer that can “benefit society by advancing scientific discovery, developing helpful applications, and tackling some of society’s greatest challenges.”

After Alphabet CEO Sundar Pichai announced Willow on social media, X CEO Elon Musk responded with a “wow” and engaged in a back and forth with Pichai, who said “we should do a quantum cluster in space with Starship one day :).”

“That will probably happen,” Musk replied.
Why is Willow so special?

To break Willow down in simple terms: A quantum chip, like the one developed here by Google, can perform computations that would take regular computers longer than the age of the universe to execute. Benchmarks, for those unfamiliar, are challenges that all computers try to solve to help us humans understand which one is the fastest, or best at solving a particular problem.

What sets Willow apart is its ability to learn from its mistakes. While regular computers can frequently err in problem-solving, Google claims Willow actually gets smarter as it uses more qubits, which are the units of computation in quantum computers. It’s like building an incredibly high tower, but instead of wobbling more as it grows taller, it gets even steadier—at least, that’s what Google is claiming about Willow. This has been a challenge that's existed in quantum error correction for nearly 30 years, according to Hartmut, who insists Willow reduces errors "exponentially" as it scales up.

Neven says Willow can fix its mistakes in real-time: like having an eraser that works faster than you can color outside the lines. It essentially results in a computer that can solve computations perfectly, erasing mistakes as it goes.

"This is the most convincing prototype for a scalable logical qubit built to date," he said. "It’s a strong sign that useful, very large quantum computers can indeed be built."


One of the biggest achievements of Willow so far, according to Neven, is that it solved a mathematical puzzle in five minutes. At first glance, that doesn’t sound like a big deal, until you consider that Google claims it would take a regular computer 10 septillion years to solve that same puzzle. It's this kind of functionality that leads Google to believe Willow can help humans discover new medicines, conceptualize next-generation batteries, and ultimately help our planet save energy.


For what it's worth, many tech companies, including Google, have a history of exaggerated claims over so-called "breakthroughs" in quantum computing. But Google, Musk, and others seem to be very excited about Willow—to the extent the company has decided to make open-source software available, as well as a new Coursera course, to help developers, researchers, and engineers "create algorithms that can solve the problems of the future.”
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Re: Quantum + AI = scary potential
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2024, 11:09:05 PM »
Interesting development, but you can never trust such big companies. They claim huge advances for humanity, but realistically they just want even more profits and a much higher stock price

For now they just create more problems than they solve. The power demand for AI is off the scales. Meta needs 3 new natural gas power plants to get the energy they need for their new 10 billion Lousiana data center:


https://www.powermag.com/entergy-louisiana-eyes-2-2-gw-of-new-gas-fired-generation-to-support-data-center-demand/


Wind and solar will always be chronically unreliable, so burning fossil fuels is what microsoft, meta, alphabet, apple etc do best

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Re: Quantum + AI = scary potential
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2024, 11:19:38 PM »
Once they eliminate most jobs in society will that give all of us more free time or will they just eliminate us?

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Re: Quantum + AI = scary potential
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2024, 01:22:44 AM »
I no smart but read this on X by someone who seems to know some stuff.
‘I see a lot of confusion about Google's Monday press release about quantum supremacy, so let me try to clarify a few things.

They say they did a computation on a ca 100 qubit chip much faster than a conventional (super)computer could do. The particular calculation in question is to produce a random distribution. The result of this calculation has no practical use.

They use this particular problem because it has been formally proven (with some technical caveats) that the calculation is difficult to do on a conventional computer (because it uses a lot of entanglement). That also allows them to say things like "this would have taken a septillion years on a conventional computer" etc.

It's exactly the same calculation that they did in 2019 on  a ca 50 qubit chip. In case you didn't follow that, Google's 2019 quantum supremacy claim was questioned by IBM pretty much as soon as the claim was made and a few years later a group said they did it on a conventional computer in a similar time.

So while the announcement is super impressive from a scientific pov and all, the consequences for everyday life are zero. Estimates say that we will need about 1 million qubits for practically useful applications and we're still about 1 million qubits away from that.

Also, it's been a recurring story that we have seen numerous times in the past years, that claims of quantum "utility" or quantum "advantage" or quantum "supremacy" or whatever you want to call it later evaporate because some other group finds a clever way to do it on a conventional computer after all.’

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Re: Quantum + AI = scary potential
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2024, 05:39:58 AM »
Once they eliminate most jobs in society will that give all of us more free time or will they just eliminate us?


I wonder about this. Do we all just live equally normal lives and let computers do the heavy lifting, or do the computers just kill us all like a sci-fi movie?

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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2024, 08:15:51 AM »
I don't understand AI but my 70 year old aunt used an AI reply-letter to a relative that was much better than what she had written herself originally. I thought this is a bit troubling, who are interacting here? ;D

Are there any AI posters here who use AI to formulate all their replies? I think it's easy to train an AI on a users past comments and then just keep posting using that AI and who would know?

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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2024, 09:21:22 AM »
I don't understand AI but my 70 year old aunt used an AI reply-letter to a relative that was much better than what she had written herself originally. I thought this is a bit troubling, who are interacting here? ;D

Are there any AI posters here who use AI to formulate all their replies? I think it's easy to train an AI on a users past comments and then just keep posting using that AI and who would know?

AI still can’t formulate precision insults.  So that would rule out people on here using it for their replies.   ;D

Now I do think that we will see the curve in other areas like medicine and entertainment sky rocket eventually.   The first person to harness it for nefarious means like virtually snuff films or discovering a new synthetic drug is going to be richer than God.

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Re: Quantum + AI = scary potential
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2024, 09:42:25 AM »
I don't understand AI but my 70 year old aunt used an AI reply-letter to a relative that was much better than what she had written herself originally. I thought this is a bit troubling, who are interacting here? ;D

Are there any AI posters here who use AI to formulate all their replies? I think it's easy to train an AI on a users past comments and then just keep posting using that AI and who would know?

I do it - I had a guy missed 2 months payments.

So the letter I wrote was pretty fucking in your face.

Then I asked ChatGPT if it was too harsh - and it rewrote it really nicely.

The reply I got from them explained they'd changed the payment method - I was looking in Paypal but they started paying by wire transfer.

So the apology i now need to send them isn't going to be that painful.

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Re: Quantum + AI = scary potential
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2024, 10:17:52 AM »
 Life in the future could very well mirror something like the movie “War Games’ with rogue computers

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Re: Quantum + AI = scary potential
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2024, 07:35:50 PM »
Al + Qaeda = scary potential.

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Re: Quantum + AI = scary potential
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2024, 12:28:54 AM »

I wonder about this. Do we all just live equally normal lives and let computers do the heavy lifting, or do the computers just kill us all like a sci-fi movie?
I'm more concerned with the AI creators offing us.

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Re: Quantum + AI = scary potential
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2024, 01:26:52 AM »
Google announced that their new quantum chip could do a calculation in 5 minutes that would take the world's most powerful supercomputer 10 to 20 years to make. Mind blowing stuff.

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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2024, 03:30:30 PM »
Google announced that their new quantum chip could do a calculation in 5 minutes that would take the world's most powerful supercomputer 10 to 20 years to make. Mind blowing stuff.

I'm really stupid about this stuff, could someone explain to me in simple terms how that much computing power would improve something practical in our lives?

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Re: Quantum + AI = scary potential
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2024, 03:45:55 PM »
Given Brian Pec repair, he’s going to become so super strong that he’s going to become the embodiment of an AI robot. Watch and see.
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Re: Quantum + AI = scary potential
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2024, 03:50:01 PM »
I'm really stupid about this stuff, could someone explain to me in simple terms how that much computing power would improve something practical in our lives?
It would help to get bodybuilding contest results out quicker.

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Re: Quantum + AI = scary potential
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2024, 04:14:15 PM »
It would help to get bodybuilding contest results out quicker.

Poor fatbody trying to fit in still - 😂

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Re: Quantum + AI = scary potential
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2024, 04:22:38 PM »
It piss, it shit
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Re: Quantum + AI = scary potential
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2024, 06:06:26 PM »


I have been told it will make it possible to "counterfeit" cryptocurrency....

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Re: Quantum + AI = scary potential
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2024, 06:42:22 PM »

I have been told it will make it possible to "counterfeit" cryptocurrency....

Yes, quantum computers will instantly crack all current encryption. This might mean the end of privacy, at least until quantum encryption comes around.

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« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2024, 06:43:51 PM »
I use ChatGPT in scenarios where I have to reply quickly at work to something that I think is a seriously bad idea or has pissed me off.

It takes the combativeness out of the tone in a major way.

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« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2024, 11:39:50 PM »
my 70 year old aunt used an AI reply-letter to a relative that was much better than what she had written herself originally.

I asked ChatGPT if it was too harsh - and it rewrote it really nicely.

I use ChatGPT in scenarios where I have to reply quickly at work to something that I think is a seriously bad idea or has pissed me off.

It takes the combativeness out of the tone in a major way.

look at em… like moths to a flame

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Re: Quantum + AI = scary potential
« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2024, 12:00:34 AM »
lol, yes it's definetely going to make our lives easier because they care about us so much hahahahahahaha

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Re: Quantum + AI = scary potential
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2024, 12:41:21 AM »
Once they eliminate most jobs in society will that give all of us more free time or will they just eliminate us?

Their only goal is to eradicate "competition"(for resources).
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« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2024, 01:01:42 AM »
Their only goal is to eradicate "competition"(for resources).
Food, water, land?