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Biden pardons
« on: December 12, 2024, 07:10:33 PM »
Biden pardoned his scumbag son, unsurprisingly, yet despite insisting multiple times he would not. He also recently pardoned Chinese spies and just today he granted 39 pardons and commuted the sentences of roughly 1,500 federal offenders.

He still has several weeks to issue more pardons and many controversial ones are granted on the last day.

I think he may offer a preemptive pardon to Fauci and maybe Bennie Thompson (possibly Liz Cheney with him). The old fossil and race-baiter Clyburn seems to have a disproportionate influence on Biden, almost to the point of blackmail, so whoever Clyburn demands also has a strong possibility of getting a pardon or commutation.

I don't think Biden will pardon Edward Snowden or Julian Assange.

Who do you think Biden will pardon before he leaves office?

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Re: Biden pardons
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2024, 07:30:55 PM »
Biden pardoned his scumbag son, unsurprisingly, yet despite insisting multiple times he would not. He also recently pardoned Chinese spies and just today he granted 39 pardons and commuted the sentences of roughly 1,500 federal offenders.

He still has several weeks to issue more pardons and many controversial ones are granted on the last day.

I think he may offer a preemptive pardon to Fauci and maybe Bennie Thompson (possibly Liz Cheney with him). The old fossil and race-baiter Clyburn seems to have a disproportionate influence on Biden, almost to the point of blackmail, so whoever Clyburn demands also has a strong possibility of getting a pardon or commutation.

I don't think Biden will pardon Edward Snowden or Julian Assange.

Who do you think Biden will pardon before he leaves office?

And not one J6 political prisoner...

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Re: Biden pardons
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2024, 07:43:50 PM »
Never worried about pardons too much since, to me they were more of "to the winner goes the spoils" type stuff, and there would always be a few here and there that raised an eyebrow or two.

I'll admit I'm not up to par on the nuances of it - is it actually legal to give a blanket pardon to someone who has not been charged with a crime, but might?

Like Fauci for example?
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Re: Biden pardons
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2024, 11:32:51 PM »
And not one J6 political prisoner...

At least he got that right

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Re: Biden pardons
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2024, 11:41:03 PM »
I don't spend a lot of time in the news these days but I am aware Biden pardoned his son. And while I agree the charge he was convicted of is rarely if ever enforced, and likely would not be enforced if not for his connection to Biden, it is part of the paperwork to own a gun. I've always been a proponent of removing laws and ordinances nobody enforces. If nobody cares, and it is continually ignored it is a good sign it is a bad law or ordinance. However, it was and is the law and he violated it. He experienced monetary gain from his connection to his father and didn't relinquish that so I have no qualms about holding him accountable on his violation in buying the gun. You can't just revel in the benefits and be immune from the negatives.

But, IMO, preemptive pardons should NOT be a part of the presidential powers. Hell, I am not a fan of the current Presidential pardon powers as we have seen them abused from both sides of the aisle

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Re: Biden pardons
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2024, 12:55:28 AM »
Hopefully, he pardons Luigi.

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Re: Biden pardons
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2024, 01:26:01 AM »
These pardons actual help Trump in the future when he pardons his people.

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Re: Biden pardons
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2024, 10:29:10 AM »
I don't spend a lot of time in the news these days but I am aware Biden pardoned his son. And while I agree the charge he was convicted of is rarely if ever enforced, and likely would not be enforced if not for his connection to Biden, it is part of the paperwork to own a gun. I've always been a proponent of removing laws and ordinances nobody enforces. If nobody cares, and it is continually ignored it is a good sign it is a bad law or ordinance. However, it was and is the law and he violated it. He experienced monetary gain from his connection to his father and didn't relinquish that so I have no qualms about holding him accountable on his violation in buying the gun. You can't just revel in the benefits and be immune from the negatives.

But, IMO, preemptive pardons should NOT be a part of the presidential powers. Hell, I am not a fan of the current Presidential pardon powers as we have seen them abused from both sides of the aisle


Agreed.

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Re: Biden pardons
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2024, 10:32:14 AM »
These pardons actual help Trump in the future when he pardons his people.
Lets begin with the J6 hero’s.
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Re: Biden pardons
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2024, 10:39:33 AM »
Biden commuted the sentence of the judge who was responsible for the "kids for cash" scheme, i.e. the judge was getting a cut from private for-profit prisons for every kid he sentenced to prison. No surprise that Biden would grant this favor to a scumbag who preyed on children. Maybe for every kid sentenced there was also a 10% for the big guy? Incidentally, both judges in this crime spree were Democrats.


Biden stirs outrage in Scranton by commuting 'kids for cash' judge's sentence

President Biden has sparked anger among Pennsylvanians after he commuted the sentence of a corrupt judge who was jailed for more than 17 years after he was caught taking kickbacks for sending juveniles to for-profit detention facilities.

In what came to be known as the kids-for-cash scandal, former Judge Michael Conahan shut down a county-run juvenile detention center and shared $2.8 million in illegal payments from the builder and co-owner of two for-profit lockups. Another judge, Mark Ciavarella, was also involved in the illicit scheme, the effects of which are still felt today among victims and families.

The scandal is considered Pennsylvania’s largest-ever judicial corruption scheme with the state's supreme court throwing out some 4,000 juvenile convictions involving more than 2,300 kids after the scheme was uncovered.

Conahan, 72, pleaded guilty in 2010 to one count of racketeering conspiracy but was released from prison to home confinement in 2020 because of COVID-19 health concerns with six years left in his sentence.

But Biden, the so-called favorite son of Scranton, commuted his sentence Thursday as part of the largest single-day act of clemency in modern history in which he commuted jail sentences for nearly 1,500 people and granted 39 pardons.

The decision has raised questions as to why Biden would choose to commute the sentence of a judge who is detested in the area.

Sandy Fonzo, who once confronted Ciavarella outside federal court after her son was placed in juvenile detention and committed suicide, said that the president’s actions were an "injustice" and "deeply painful."

The scheme began in 2002 when Conahan shut down the state juvenile detention center and used money from the Luzerne County budget to fund a multimillion-dollar lease for the private facilities. Ciavarella, who presided over juvenile court, pushed a zero-tolerance policy that guaranteed large numbers of kids would be sent to PA Child Care and its sister facility, Western PA Child Care.

Ciavarella ordered children as young as 8 to detention, many of them first-time offenders deemed delinquent for petty theft, jaywalking, truancy, smoking on school grounds and other minor infractions. The judge often ordered youths he had found delinquent to be immediately shackled, handcuffed and taken away without giving them a chance to put up a defense or even say goodbye to their families.

In 2022, both Conahan and Ciavarella were ordered to pay more than $200 million to nearly 300 people they victimized, although it's unlikely the now-adult victims will see even a fraction of the damages award.

The scheme, per The Citizens Voice, involved former Pennsylvania attorney Robert Powell paying Ciavarella and Conahan $770,000, who in turn funneled juvenile defendants to two private, for-profit detention centers Powell partly owned.

Powell served an 18-month prison sentence after pleading guilty to felony counts of failing to report a felony and being an accessory to a conspiracy.

Real estate developer Robert K. Mericle paid the judges $2.1 million and was later charged with failing to disclose to investigators and a grand jury that he knew the judges were defrauding the government. Mericle served one year in federal prison, per The Citizens Voice.

Ciavarella is serving a 28-year prison sentence on honest services mail fraud charges, per the publication.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-stirs-outrage-scranton-commuting-kids-cash-judges-sentence

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Re: Biden pardons
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2024, 12:31:49 PM »
At least he got that right

Yeah, the ones that should have been pardoned first. Look up the definition of political prisoner.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doj-ig-reveals-number-fbi-confidential-sources-ground-during-jan-6

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Re: Biden pardons
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2024, 06:28:29 PM »
I don't spend a lot of time in the news these days but I am aware Biden pardoned his son. And while I agree the charge he was convicted of is rarely if ever enforced, and likely would not be enforced if not for his connection to Biden, it is part of the paperwork to own a gun. I've always been a proponent of removing laws and ordinances nobody enforces. If nobody cares, and it is continually ignored it is a good sign it is a bad law or ordinance. However, it was and is the law and he violated it. He experienced monetary gain from his connection to his father and didn't relinquish that so I have no qualms about holding him accountable on his violation in buying the gun. You can't just revel in the benefits and be immune from the negatives.

But, IMO, preemptive pardons should NOT be a part of the presidential powers. Hell, I am not a fan of the current Presidential pardon powers as we have seen them abused from both sides of the aisle

Not a word about the fact Biden repeatedly lied about not pardoning his son.

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Re: Biden pardons
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2024, 06:54:37 PM »
White House Spox: Joe Biden ‘Going to Talk with His Team’ About Preemptive Pardons for Allies
Wendell Husebo
13 Dec 2024
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/12/13/white-house-spox-joe-biden-going-to-talk-with-his-team-about-preemptive-pardons-for-allies/

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Re: Biden pardons
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2024, 09:16:15 PM »
Not a word about the fact Biden repeatedly lied about not pardoning his son.

People can change their minds.

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Re: Biden pardons
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2024, 10:23:57 PM »
People can change their minds.

Yes they can.  But we both know that is not what happened here.  Biden always intended to pardon his son, so he knew the repeated statements that he would not pardon him were false at the time he made those statements (i.e., he was lying).  There is nothing that changed between the time Biden made those repeated statements and the time he pardoned his crackhead son.  Except a jury finding the racist crackhead guilty. 

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Re: Biden pardons
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2024, 11:02:41 PM »
Yes they can.  But we both know that is not what happened here.  Biden always intended to pardon his son, so he knew the repeated statements that he would not pardon him were false at the time he made those statements (i.e., he was lying).  There is nothing that changed between the time Biden made those repeated statements and the time he pardoned his crackhead son.  Except a jury finding the racist crackhead guilty.

Also, the party staged his removal as a candidate and then lost the elections.

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Re: Biden pardons
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2024, 11:05:55 PM »
Yes they can.  But we both know that is not what happened here.  Biden always intended to pardon his son, so he knew the repeated statements that he would not pardon him were false at the time he made those statements (i.e., he was lying).  There is nothing that changed between the time Biden made those repeated statements and the time he pardoned his crackhead son.  Except a jury finding the racist crackhead guilty.

Speculation.

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Re: Biden pardons
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2024, 11:44:44 PM »
At least he got that right

He got your Mutha right, when he stuck his inch-worm in  her dripping rancid kvnt.

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Re: Biden pardons
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2024, 12:04:31 AM »
These pardons actual help Trump in the future when he pardons his people.

I agree, Trump would have done it anyway, but this makes it look ok, and rightfully so. 

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Re: Biden pardons
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2024, 12:08:44 AM »
People can change their minds.

Nah.. Just nah..

Either you make a blanket statement, or you don't. If you do, stick with it or fade the heat.

We all know Trump has no rule book. But that doesn't justify others not playing by it. The American people voted for Trumps ethics, doesn't mean we should all throw what's right to the wayside

No offense to Trumpsters.

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Re: Biden pardons
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2024, 12:51:27 AM »
Lets begin with the J6 hero’s.
He will and the MSM will lose their minds.

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Re: Biden pardons
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2024, 04:19:31 AM »
The “kids for cash” judge pardon is nuts. Dude should rot in prison for life for that. Hopefully he doesn’t commute the sentence of the other scumbag judge involved. I wouldn’t shed a tear if someone lined them up against a wall and shot those two.

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Re: Biden pardons
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2024, 04:52:17 AM »
The “kids for cash” judge pardon is nuts. Dude should rot in prison for life for that. Hopefully he doesn’t commute the sentence of the other scumbag judge involved. I wouldn’t shed a tear if someone lined them up against a wall and shot those two.

Yeah. I also don't get why Biden would pardon that corrupt judge. I understand him pardoning his son because he’s family even if he's a scumbag. But the judge??? The only explanation I can see is that Biden’s own shady Ukraine dealings have warped his moral compass so badly that he can’t even recognize how truly evil the judge’s actions were.

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Re: Biden pardons
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2024, 05:40:25 AM »
Joe pardoned himself after shitting his knickers in the Shatican w/ the Pope.
Two major Pedoz...

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Re: Biden pardons
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2024, 03:01:29 PM »




PARDON THEM ALL!

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