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[MAXX]

Labrum tear, I think I have it.. Anyone with experience how to deal with it?

I can train but shoulder feels abit unstable and it pops in alot of movement vectors.

Thing is I'm improving my bench and I don't want to take a step back now and it doesn't hurt benching. I can still bench heavy. Only hurts overhead pressing.

I should probably rest fully from any upper body I'm guessing and only do rehab?

Got it from punching a heavy bag not any lifting.

[robcguns]

Krank knows All this stuff. Wait for him to chime in.

[Irongrip400]

I was having shoulder issues about 6 years ago and was in PT. Wasn’t really getting any better and they did an MRI and it showed a partial labrum and rotator cuff tear. They gave surgery as an option, but also told me that the labrum could heal on its own possibly. Anyway, I got sick and was down for like 5-6 months and when I got back into the gym it had healed. It had not bothered me since. I don’t go crazy on weights but I don’t have any of the pain opening doors etc because of the injury. It healed on its own.

[MAXX]

I was having shoulder issues about 6 years ago and was in PT. Wasn’t really getting any better and they did an MRI and it showed a partial labrum and rotator cuff tear. They gave surgery as an option, but also told me that the labrum could heal on its own possibly. Anyway, I got sick and was down for like 5-6 months and when I got back into the gym it had healed. It had not bothered me since. I don’t go crazy on weights but I don’t have any of the pain opening doors etc because of the injury. It healed on its own.

I don't think mine is rotator injury but possibly. I have checked alot of the tests and don't have pain from the supraspinatus or any other rotator. But yes should probably get an MRI to know for sure.

resting from upper body for 5-6 months would suck pretty bad. Especially when improving lately and having some joy back for the gym.

[Kwon]

Injured BOTH my shoulders earlier this year.

Took around 7 months to recuperate

Takes so much longer time these days due to being 50+

[Irongrip400]

I don't think mine is rotator injury but possibly. I have checked alot of the tests and don't have pain from the supraspinatus or any other rotator. But yes should probably get an MRI to know for sure.

resting from upper body for 5-6 months would suck pretty bad. Especially when improving lately and having some joy back for the gym.

Yeah they told me the pain was probably the labrum and not the rotator cuff because of what motions bothered me. Turned out they were right so I’m glad the surgery never took place.


I was forced out of the gym with a spinal infection so I had no choice but to stop. Sucks being a twink though in your down time!

[LurkerNoMore]

A friend had a labrum tear.  It was painful a bit in certain movements, absolutely nothing in others.  After about 5 months, all pain went away.  Until a year ago when it returned.

He opted not to have the surgery.  That was 8 years ago.  Today he needs a completely full shoulder replacement due to the arthritis that built up in and the around the joint because of not having the tear fixed.  Something to consider.  Putting off something simple today could result in a bigger consequence on down the road.  He wishes he had gotten it fixed back then.

[MAXX]

A friend had a labrum tear.  It was painful a bit in certain movements, absolutely nothing in others.  After about 5 months, all pain went away.  Until a year ago when it returned.

He opted not to have the surgery.  That was 8 years ago.  Today he needs a completely full shoulder replacement due to the arthritis that built up in and the around the joint because of not having the tear fixed.  Something to consider.  Putting off something simple today could result in a bigger consequence on down the road.  He wishes he had gotten it fixed back then.

Yes that is a good point. And I feel that instability in the joint now with the popping it does in centrain movements. That means it pops out of socket(even if slightly) and isn't fixed in as it should. Which mean it will like you say wear badly in the cartilage in the socket. Definately don't want that.

If the popping doesn't stop I might need surgery/repair of the labrum down the line. Hope not..

[affeman]

Better a labrum tear than a labia tear....

[IroNat]

Time heals all wounds.

[visualizeperfection]

Yeah they told me the pain was probably the labrum and not the rotator cuff because of what motions bothered me. Turned out they were right so I’m glad the surgery never took place.


I was forced out of the gym with a spinal infection so I had no choice but to stop. Sucks being a twink though in your down time!

Do they have any idea how a Spinal infection happens? 

[Lartinos]

Time heals all wounds.

Especially Chrohn’s.

[bhank]

Time heals all wounds.

True but unlike the rest of you apparently, I have had a labrum repair time was not enough for me. I still have issues though and need another shoulder surgery. Its not stable it does move side laterals hurt and I have a smaller side and front delt so just assume you are fucked.

But that may have been right shoulder I had labrum could be both hard to say 2 surgeries on the left shoulder and one on the right. Right shoulder is ok left is not good

[IroNat]

True but unlike the rest of you apparently, I have had a labrum repair time was not enough for me. I still have issues though and need another shoulder surgery. Its not stable it does move side laterals hurt and I have a smaller side and front delt so just assume you are fucked.

But that may have been right shoulder I had labrum could be both hard to say 2 surgeries on the left shoulder and one on the right. Right shoulder is ok left is not good

You just need more time, Bhanky.

[IroNat]

Think I have it.. Anyone with experience how to deal with it?

I can train but shoulder feels abit unstable and it pops in alot of movement vectors.

Thing is I'm improving my bench and I don't want to take a step back now and it doesn't hurt benching. I can still bench heavy. Only hurts overhead pressing.

I should probably rest fully from any upper body I'm guessing and only do rehab?

Got it from punching a heavy bag not any lifting.

I'd avoid surgery if possible.

Stop doing exercises that bother you.

Do exercises that strengthen the shoulder region.

Heavy benching is probably not a good idea either until you heal.

You need to balance out your shoulders with a variety of movements.

Try using bands for awhile.  Pump blood into the area.

[beakdoctor]

A lot of lifters I know who are in their 40's and 50's rave about TB 500 and BPC 157, peptides for recuperation.

I do not have any experience with peptides but they're supposedly miracle workers. I don't know what type of injuries they help heal. Minor soreness and nagging pain or will they help with more severe injuries too?

[RxBandit]

i also had a torn labrum and only had it operated on after a year. in the meantime, the cartilage had worn away so much due to the instability that the operation did not really bring any improvement. two years later, doc ritsch (in germany) implanted a joint prosthesis. now i can train again without any restrictions. my recommendation would be to have it treated immediately.

[Humble Narcissist]

Time heals all wounds.

Even a labia tear?

[MAXX]

i also had a torn labrum and only had it operated on after a year. in the meantime, the cartilage had worn away so much due to the instability that the operation did not really bring any improvement. two years later, doc ritsch (in germany) implanted a joint prosthesis. now i can train again without any restrictions. my recommendation would be to have it treated immediately.

Cartilage worn out in just a year? So I guess you just pushed through pain and trained with the unstable shoulder joint?

Anyways Im going to give it 4-6 weeks rest now to see if it improves. Will do som light band work for blood flow to the joint.

[MAXX]

A lot of lifters I know who are in their 40's and 50's rave about TB 500 and BPC 157, peptides for recuperation.

I do not have any experience with peptides but they're supposedly miracle workers. I don't know what type of injuries they help heal. Minor soreness and nagging pain or will they help with more severe injuries too?

I have heard about that will check it.

Even better would probably be stem cells injected directly in to the labrum. But not sure if I can get it where I live. Also the cost is an issue with stem cells

[IroNat]

Even a labia tear?

 

[LurkerNoMore]

A lot of lifters I know who are in their 40's and 50's rave about TB 500 and BPC 157, peptides for recuperation.

I do not have any experience with peptides but they're supposedly miracle workers. I don't know what type of injuries they help heal. Minor soreness and nagging pain or will they help with more severe injuries too?

From my experience (that comes from knowing past owners of the largest peptide biz around and from people who actually used them a lot), TB500 and BPC 157 are good for minor inflammations and irritations.  Anything dealing with a tear or rupture, they are not going to do very much in terms of healing/knitting/recup/ or pain management. 

[MAXX]

From my experience (that comes from knowing past owners of the largest peptide biz around and from people who actually used them a lot), TB500 and BPC 157 are good for minor inflammations and irritations.  Anything dealing with a tear or rupture, they are not going to do very much in terms of healing/knitting/recup/ or pain management.

Yes, there is no inflammation involved. Since I tore it a week ago. Only did one bench workout, which felt fine(no popping anyways in that movement). Tried OHP but did not feel good so stopped that.

Stem cells would probably be my go to for this rehab process. But I heard that the stem cells you want that work the best by far is the navelcord/placenta stemcells. The ones from your own old body are not as effective. But I can not find that treatment in my country(maybe laws against)

And even the ones from your own body that treatment is minimum 5000usd. I'd imagine the stem cells from placenta is 5x that probably. Rich man option....

[Irongrip400]

Do they have any idea how a Spinal infection happens?

Yeah, oddly enough it was caused by a doctor. I’ve got lower back/disc issues and do non narcotic pain management and don’t want to do surgery so I’ve done ESI, nerve ablations and a sugar water injection to inflame the area to send white blood cells. Anyway, one of the injections I did was a stem cell/allograph injection into the affected discs. Evidently the quack didn’t clean my back well enough and pushed staph into my spine when he did the injection, and also overfilled it causing me to get meningitis for which I spent 12 days in the hospital. Got out and was literally wasting away, lost 38 pounds in 8-10 weeks and they finally realized it had turned into a staph infection. I had a PICC line put in and had to infuse myself with antibiotics multiple times a day for 10 weeks. Crazy shit but hey, at least it got me the much needed rest to heal my labrum tear, amm I right?

[joswift]

Yeah, oddly enough it was caused by a doctor. I’ve got lower back/disc issues and do non narcotic pain management and don’t want to do surgery so I’ve done ESI, nerve ablations and a sugar water injection to inflame the area to send white blood cells. Anyway, one of the injections I did was a stem cell/allograph injection into the affected discs. Evidently the quack didn’t clean my back well enough and pushed staph into my spine when he did the injection, and also overfilled it causing me to get meningitis for which I spent 12 days in the hospital. Got out and was literally wasting away, lost 38 pounds in 8-10 weeks and they finally realized it had turned into a staph infection. I had a PICC line put in and had to infuse myself with antibiotics multiple times a day for 10 weeks. Crazy shit but hey, at least it got me the much needed rest to heal my labrum tear, amm I right?

I have 2 bulging disca L4,L5 and have had back spasams for years , turns out its fuck all to do with the discs, its tight fascia in the glutes hams and quads that causes back spasms
Since having fascial massage with blades my low backs been fine