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Cannon fodder
« on: December 26, 2024, 02:19:22 AM »
N Korean soldiers like lambs to the slaughter
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Re: Cannon fodder
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2024, 02:43:23 AM »
As Stalin said: one death is a tragedy, one million deaths are statistics. Poetin and the idiot in North Korea think in similar ways.

What more interesting is how ineffective their handling of the invasion is.
Massive numbers of casualties and equipment lost, for very little gain. And they refuse to change their World War II based tactics. Sometimes even WW I based fighting. Completely baffling.

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Re: Cannon fodder
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2024, 02:48:08 AM »
As Stalin said: one death is a tragedy, one million deaths are statistics. Poetin and the idiot in North Korea think in similar ways.

What more interesting is how ineffective their handling of the invasion is.
Massive numbers of casualties and equipment lost, for very little gain. And they refuse to change their World War II based tactics. Sometimes even WW I based fighting. Completely baffling.

I did see on the news last night that Ukranian soldiers are deserting .. could just be Propaganda but normally the German news is very pro-Ukraine

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Re: Cannon fodder
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2024, 03:42:29 AM »
I did see on the news last night that Ukranian soldiers are deserting .. could just be Propaganda but normally the German news is very pro-Ukraine
That number is apparently anywhere between  100-200 k soldiers.
They take medical leave and never return.
https://apnews.com/article/deserters-awol-ukraine-russia-war-def676562552d42bc5d593363c9e5ea0

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Re: Cannon fodder
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2024, 05:59:59 AM »
I did see on the news last night that Ukranian soldiers are deserting .. could just be Propaganda but normally the German news is very pro-Ukraine

Are you sure the news report wasn't "Ukrainian soldiers are eating dessert"?

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Re: Cannon fodder
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2024, 06:05:11 AM »
As Stalin said: one death is a tragedy, one million deaths are statistics. Poetin and the idiot in North Korea think in similar ways.

What more interesting is how ineffective their handling of the invasion is.
Massive numbers of casualties and equipment lost, for very little gain. And they refuse to change their World War II based tactics. Sometimes even WW I based fighting. Completely baffling.

This is very true.

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Re: Cannon fodder
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2024, 06:10:07 AM »
Are you sure the news report wasn't "Ukrainian soldiers are eating dessert"?

 ;D
But in all honesty i feel for both sides being out in bad conditions ..it´s not fun living out in harsh conditions. can´t just go & get a take away if hungry.
In extreme cold you never really sleep properly.

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Re: Cannon fodder
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2024, 06:14:29 AM »
Napolean could not defeat Russia.

Hitler could not defeat Russia.

But Ukraine/NATO can defeat Russia?




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Re: Cannon fodder
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2024, 06:19:50 AM »
Napolean could not defeat Russia.

Hitler could not defeat Russia.

But Ukraine/NATO can defeat Russia?



Russia are dragging it out & can

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Re: Cannon fodder
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2024, 12:28:59 AM »
Not fighting in any wars since WW2 and Korean War hurt China and North Korea. As bad as war is, it does sharpen your sword.

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Re: Cannon fodder
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2024, 12:44:35 AM »
Not fighting in any wars since WW2 and Korean War hurt China and North Korea. As bad as war is, it does sharpen your sword.
You notice a pattern here..these Communists use the same training manuals 😄

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Re: Cannon fodder
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2024, 01:07:41 AM »
You notice a pattern here..these Communists use the same training manuals 😄
They train together.

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Re: Cannon fodder
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2024, 02:42:44 AM »
They train together.

the "Soviets" have changed some tactics since the Cold War simply because they don´t have the Warsaw pact anymore & volume of Armoured Motor rifle Battalions.
still very active with Artillery which they´ve always put a lot of weight behind.

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Re: Cannon fodder
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2024, 03:03:30 AM »
The supposed experts I listen to, says there isn't a single crediblee report North Koreans are involved in fighting, especially in Ukraine proper. It's supposed to be 10K,  20K, 100K, who the hell knows. And if they are there, fucking half the world is fighting for Ukraine. US personnel on the ground actively shooting missiles deep into Russia. Putin ain't bluffing, the consequences will be intense, rivers of blood. Russia could ens Ukraine in one day with their ballistics, but as they constantly point out, they don't want to. ONLY thing west can do is all out nuclear war, we're all finished. Trump said killing that general in Russia was bad. What's Trump going to do, bully Russia. Only thing he can do is split outta there overnight, get a ceasefire. Russia won.



Of course everyone is subjective and have their biases but here's one example of a guy who seems to know things.

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Re: Cannon fodder
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2024, 04:39:02 AM »
The supposed experts I listen to, says there isn't a single crediblee report North Koreans are involved in fighting, especially in Ukraine proper. It's supposed to be 10K,  20K, 100K, who the hell knows. And if they are there, fucking half the world is fighting for Ukraine. US personnel on the ground actively shooting missiles deep into Russia. Putin ain't bluffing, the consequences will be intense, rivers of blood. Russia could ens Ukraine in one day with their ballistics, but as they constantly point out, they don't want to. ONLY thing west can do is all out nuclear war, we're all finished. Trump said killing that general in Russia was bad. What's Trump going to do, bully Russia. Only thing he can do is split outta there overnight, get a ceasefire. Russia won.



Of course everyone is subjective and have their biases but here's one example of a guy who seems to know things.

At this point they are just maneuvering for a better bargaining position. They know the war will end once Trump is in power. I'm convinced Biden is the only reason the war lasted this long. (again, not arguing about the merits of Russians ruling over Ukrainians or if it is a justifiable war)

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Re: Cannon fodder
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2024, 07:21:43 AM »
Scott Ritter and Douglas McGregor are not credible experts but pro Kremlin mouthpieces.

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Re: Cannon fodder
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2024, 01:41:55 PM »
Scott Ritter and Douglas McGregor are not credible experts but pro Kremlin mouthpieces.

Source that they are Gremlin working for Kremlin?
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Re: Cannon fodder
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2024, 07:53:16 PM »
Scott Ritter and Douglas McGregor are not credible experts but pro Kremlin mouthpieces.

Those two look like Matt C and someone else from here I can’t quite place.

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Re: Cannon fodder
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2024, 08:27:17 PM »
Scott Ritter and Douglas McGregor are not credible experts but pro Kremlin mouthpieces.

There's no such thing as an objective diplomat, there's always agendas. What do you think of Jeffrey Sachs, Ray McGovern, Larry Johnson, The Duran fellas, Postol, Metthew Hoh, Chas Freeman and etc etc, the dissidents? :D

Everyone of these says Trump has no brgaining chips, Putin won, but what now?
If Trump withdraws is he a Keremlin agent like rhey always said he was?  ;D

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Re: Cannon fodder
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2024, 11:15:14 PM »
The supposed experts I listen to, says there isn't a single crediblee report North Koreans are involved in fighting, especially in Ukraine proper. It's supposed to be 10K,  20K, 100K, who the hell knows. And if they are there, fucking half the world is fighting for Ukraine. US personnel on the ground actively shooting missiles deep into Russia. Putin ain't bluffing, the consequences will be intense, rivers of blood. Russia could ens Ukraine in one day with their ballistics, but as they constantly point out, they don't want to. ONLY thing west can do is all out nuclear war, we're all finished. Trump said killing that general in Russia was bad. What's Trump going to do, bully Russia. Only thing he can do is split outta there overnight, get a ceasefire. Russia won.

Of course everyone is subjective and have their biases but here's one example of a guy who seems to know things.

Considering the territory they started with, and the huge losses, they've barely gained anything.

Their aim was to take over Ukraine and annex it, now all they have are the 'republics' they initially occupied before the war and a bit of surrounding territory.

At best it's a stalemate.

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Re: Cannon fodder
« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2024, 11:32:57 PM »
Scott Ritter and Douglas McGregor are not credible experts but pro Kremlin mouthpieces.

Two American patriots that don't support current foreign policy. Like many others.

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Re: Cannon fodder
« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2024, 11:50:13 PM »
Two Russian patriots that don't support current foreign policy. Like many others.

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Re: Cannon fodder
« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2024, 11:59:37 PM »
the "Soviets" have changed some tactics since the Cold War simply because they don´t have the Warsaw pact anymore & volume of Armoured Motor rifle Battalions.
still very active with Artillery which they´ve always put a lot of weight behind.
Those are obviously outdated tactics and weaponry.

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Re: Cannon fodder
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2024, 03:03:15 PM »
Considering the territory they started with, and the huge losses, they've barely gained anything.

Their aim was to take over Ukraine and annex it, now all they have are the 'republics' they initially occupied before the war and a bit of surrounding territory.

At best it's a stalemate.

The human toll is disgusting. But what has Ukraine gained? They lost a whole generation of men, what do the most experts studying say about the Ukrainian death toll, way north of 600K with about double never being able to return to the battlefield due to being maimed, and certainly nothing gained. Imagine the cost to grieving families, it's obscene, millions and millions of people. Zelensky says 40K Ukrainians have died, Trump said when the books are opened everyone will be shocked about the numbers. Still he LIED when he said 600K Russians and 400K Ukrainians, and Zelensky was quick to admonish him. This is Trump's "exaggerated honest truth telling" as he called his style.

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Re: Cannon fodder
« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2024, 03:16:10 PM »
If you watch the drone attacks on the foot soldiers its a colossul waste of money, using 2 or 3 drones to finish off a wounded man

Oh and they are always titled "Russins killed"

Pretty sure some are Ukranians