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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files.
« Reply #100 on: June 07, 2025, 06:13:50 AM »
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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files.
« Reply #101 on: June 07, 2025, 10:32:05 AM »

Who the fuck lies to their lawyer?

Someone tell me if I'm wrong, but I had thought a lawyer can't willfully lie for their client in a trial? I know they do anyway but wouldn't there be an incentive for a guilty person to lie to their lawyer? E.g. a criminal admits to their lawyer they did it; can then the lawyer say my client maintains his innocence?

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files.
« Reply #102 on: June 07, 2025, 11:38:36 AM »
Someone tell me if I'm wrong, but I had thought a lawyer can't willfully lie for their client in a trial? I know they do anyway but wouldn't there be an incentive for a guilty person to lie to their lawyer? E.g. a criminal admits to their lawyer they did it; can then the lawyer say my client maintains his innocence?

I guess you haven’t followed many of Trumpys lawyers then.

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files.
« Reply #103 on: June 07, 2025, 02:24:35 PM »
I guess you haven’t followed many of Trumpys lawyers then.

I know lawyers frequently must defend obviously guilty people but *on paper* aren't there certain limitations and rules for ethical conduct? Where then a lawyer can be disbarred if proven.

Edit. I quickly looked at google and it said a lawyer usually doesn't directly ask the client did he do "it" and the client often doesn't say that directly either. Lawyers aren't "supposed" to lie to the court but they don't have to divuldge admissions either due to attorney-client priviledge.

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files.
« Reply #104 on: June 07, 2025, 05:12:37 PM »
I know lawyers frequently must defend obviously guilty people but *on paper* aren't there certain limitations and rules for ethical conduct? Where then a lawyer can be disbarred if proven.

Edit. I quickly looked at google and it said a lawyer usually doesn't directly ask the client did he do "it" and the client often doesn't say that directly either. Lawyers aren't "supposed" to lie to the court but they don't have to divuldge admissions either due to attorney-client priviledge.

I’m referring to the number of lawyers who took it upon themselves to blatantly lie for Trumpys benefit at the cost of their own reputation/integrity/freedom. 

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files.
« Reply #105 on: June 08, 2025, 09:46:00 AM »
I’m referring to the number of lawyers who took it upon themselves to blatantly lie for Trumpys benefit at the cost of their own reputation/integrity/freedom.

Yes I see. Just saying that lawyers aren't "allowed" to lie to the court, their client and so on, so they try get around it by trickery and the rules as far as that are murky according to google :D

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files.
« Reply #106 on: June 08, 2025, 10:58:27 AM »
No mention of the 49 who signed the Russian interference document
for Biden - I Guess Dummycraps are okay when the Lying is for Them.   ::)


Double standards - oh no Never.   ;D

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files.
« Reply #107 on: June 08, 2025, 11:32:04 AM »
No mention of the 49 who signed the Russian interference document
for Biden - I Guess Dummycraps are okay when the Lying is for Them.   ::)


Double standards - oh no Never.   ;D

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No one likes Biden and he was a Russia hawk but it doesn't absolve Trump. In his first term he was fully on board with the long standing plan to destroy Russia. He riduled Obama, saying Obama sent blankets while he sent javelins. One minute he calls Zelensky a dictator and the next he's all chummy with him. He cut off intelligence sharing with Ukraine... for like 3 days. Under his watch CIA reportedly built 20 bases in Ukraine to wage war against Russia. Lindsey Graham tries to pass a bill to impose bone crushing sanctions on Russia, secondary sanctions, by imposing 500% tariffs on countries like China and India for importing Russian energy. Word is, he's now trying to figure out a way to stop the bill, perhaps by making the sanctions optional in the document. Problem is, Russia holds all the cards now as he himself said. Said Russia will retaliate against the recent attacks, no mention of doing anything to stop it, he can't. Now he's begging Putin to help with Iran. Seems to me Trump is holding several bags of shit in his lap and they might burst. Hopefully there won't be WWIII. :-[

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files.
« Reply #108 on: June 08, 2025, 11:53:10 AM »
No one likes Biden and he was a Russia hawk but it doesn't absolve Trump. In his first term he was fully on board with the long standing plan to destroy Russia. He riduled Obama, saying Obama sent blankets while he sent javelins. One minute he calls Zelensky a dictator and the next he's all chummy with him. He cut off intelligence sharing with Ukraine... for like 3 days. Under his watch CIA reportedly built 20 bases in Ukraine to wage war against Russia. Lindsey Graham tries to pass a bill to impose bone crushing sanctions on Russia, secondary sanctions, by imposing 500% tariffs on countries like China and India for importing Russian energy. Word is, he's now trying to figure out a way to stop the bill, perhaps by making the sanctions optional in the document. Problem is, Russia holds all the cards now as he himself said. Said Russia will retaliate against the recent attacks, no mention of doing anything to stop it, he can't. Now he's begging Putin to help with Iran. Seems to me Trump is holding several bags of shit in his lap and they might burst. Hopefully there won't be WWIII. :-[

Wrong there's plenty on here who were licking Joe's arse & stand / stood up
for him.  ::)

As far as Ukraine & Zelensky are concerned I'm bored shitless by them.
What will happen has already been determined long ago - stop being
so worried & get on & enjoy life as we may not have long left.

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files.
« Reply #109 on: June 08, 2025, 03:53:49 PM »
Yes I see. Just saying that lawyers aren't "allowed" to lie to the court, their client and so on, so they try get around it by trickery and the rules as far as that are murky according to google :D

Lawyers for sure can't lie for their clients themselves.  But alas, as I stated, take a look at what Trumpy's lawyers like Cohen, Rudy, Eastman, Powell, Cheeseburger, Jenna, etc.   Look how many are broke, bankrupt, convicted, disbarred, etc. because they chose to lie for Trumpy themselves.

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files.
« Reply #110 on: June 08, 2025, 11:13:46 PM »
Wrong there's plenty on here who were licking Joe's arse & stand / stood up
for him.  ::)

As far as Ukraine & Zelensky are concerned I'm bored shitless by them.
What will happen has already been determined long ago - stop being
so worried & get on & enjoy life as we may not have long left.

I should have added qualifiers to "no one" but I already add so many to most of my posts to preempt misunderstandings :D I sort of meant that most "reasonable" people, especially on the right, always saw him as a ridiculous figure. And that many on the right have issues with Trump now, things are moving in bad directions  :D

You are absolutely right, one needs to keep some distance to all these things to keep sane. For example, one training partner doesn't watch the news at all, I asked him what what he thought of Ukraine's drone attacks and Musk's attacks on Trump and he was like, "Who? What? Explain please."  :D :D :D Someone reading getbig might get the impression you are very emotionally invested in the stupidity of Democraps, Libtards, and Biden," but it might not take up that much space in your brain, I don't know  :D 8)

Lawyers for sure can't lie for their clients themselves.  But alas, as I stated, take a look at what Trumpy's lawyers like Cohen, Rudy, Eastman, Powell, Cheeseburger, Jenna, etc.   Look how many are broke, bankrupt, convicted, disbarred, etc. because they chose to lie for Trumpy themselves.

Yes I agree  8)

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files.
« Reply #111 on: June 09, 2025, 07:44:12 AM »
I should have added qualifiers to "no one" but I already add so many to most of my posts to preempt misunderstandings :D I sort of meant that most "reasonable" people, especially on the right, always saw him as a ridiculous figure. And that many on the right have issues with Trump now, things are moving in bad directions  :D

You are absolutely right, one needs to keep some distance to all these things to keep sane. For example, one training partner doesn't watch the news at all, I asked him what what he thought of Ukraine's drone attacks and Musk's attacks on Trump and he was like, "Who? What? Explain please."  :D :D :D Someone reading getbig might get the impression you are very emotionally invested in the stupidity of Democraps, Libtards, and Biden," but it might not take up that much space in your brain, I don't know  :D 8)

Yes I agree  8)

The only time I spend a thought on Biden / Libtrtards & DummyCraps
is when I'm on Getbig & see more of their utter stupidty & the sick
crap they support.

And your good self what would someone might concluded from reading
your posts ??

I also don't watch TV or read news papers  ;D

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files.
« Reply #112 on: June 09, 2025, 11:32:26 AM »


And your good self what would someone might concluded from reading
your posts ??

I also don't watch TV or read news papers  ;D

That I'm obsessed with this thing? Sure, I've taken to watching these political analysis shows on YT, from a certain angle, so someone could say I'm being propagandized. That's a possibility, everyone has their biases. 8) Someone said I don't realize I'm watching Russia shills, anti-semites etc. I go, "well give me an unbiased and totally objective source then." See the problem? :D

It's probably good to stay a little bit educated and up to date. But maybe not :D


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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files.
« Reply #113 on: June 09, 2025, 01:54:29 PM »
That I'm obsessed with this thing? Sure, I've taken to watching these political analysis shows on YT, from a certain angle, so someone could say I'm being propagandized. That's a possibility, everyone has their biases. 8) Someone said I don't realize I'm watching Russia shills, anti-semites etc. I go, "well give me an unbiased and totally objective source then." See the problem? :D

It's probably good to stay a little bit educated and up to date. But maybe not :D


TV &  newspapers are all controlled & biased.

Thankfully there are many other sources of news / information & yes many of
Them are also controlled & biased , its tough trying to find & get honest straight
Information.

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files.
« Reply #114 on: June 09, 2025, 02:20:05 PM »

TV &  newspapers are all controlled & biased.

Thankfully there are many other sources of news / information & yes many of
Them are also controlled & biased , its tough trying to find & get honest straight
Information.

Everything is always biased, it can't ever be otherwise.

The tough thing is to not get caught up in an echo-chamber. I try to take in info from different sources
 8)