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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #800 on: August 12, 2025, 02:33:54 PM »
Bottom line, it's almost a dead story

This is just like my opinion, but this should be kept alive for a long time. Most especially by "true conservatives." Apart from the child exploitation; if we put that aside for a moment. The intelligence connections should be more transparent; he obviously was an asset both for the US and for foreign powers, most especially Israel. Trump says Epstein was just an inconsequential perv "loser"; but he was anything but, he was obviously very important, heads of states don't constantly visit "losers." Ehud Barak said he visited him more than 10 times but less than 100 times and "never to party" LOL, which might actually be true. I doubt this whole story is going away any time soon.

The "files" and "client lists" have long since been scrubbed of any bombshell revelations so even if "everything" is released it's not going to very damaging IMO. But otoh they admitted to redacting Trump's name in documents; why even do that if there's absolutely nothing there? Regarding "pedo fantasies," we don't need any new info to determine his moral compass as it were, there's enough in the public domain to to see what kind of man he is. No normal father would have let their child or wife near Donald if they knew what is now public. Who would let their 14-16 year old daughter parade in front of Donald in a swimsuit? Not any normal protective parent.

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #801 on: August 12, 2025, 02:56:46 PM »
BTW, what is Trump scheming wrt the Putin meeting? What seems obvious: Trump didn't have the balls to impose Lindsey Graham's "bone crushing sanctions," who would have guessed ??? No one who has followed Trump for any amount of time was surprised, TACO of course. What could possibly come out of this, does Trump even have a plan? I very much doubt it, except buy Trump a tiny amount of time. He probably feels his "power of personality" will cow Putin somehow LOL. Total shitshow, I predict things will just get worse diplomatically and everyone will wonder how low can Trump get.

"This is Biden's war," is such bullshit, he precipitated and planned all this during his first term. The documentation and receipts for this are extensive. Just now Trump says "Russia is a present existential threat to the US." Great comment before diplomacy with Putin.

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #802 on: August 12, 2025, 03:08:59 PM »
BTW, what is Trump scheming wrt the Putin meeting? What seems obvious: Trump didn't have the balls to impose Lindsey Graham's "bone crushing sanctions," who would have guessed ??? No one who has followed Trump for any amount of time was surprised, TACO of course. What could possibly come out of this, does Trump even have a plan? I very much doubt it, except buy Trump a tiny amount of time. He probably feels his "power of personality" will cow Putin somehow LOL. Total shitshow, I predict things will just get worse diplomatically and everyone will wonder how low can Trump get.

"This is Biden's war," is such bullshit, he precipitated and planned all this during his first term. The documentation and receipts for this are extensive. Just now Trump says "Russia is a present existential threat to the US." Great comment before diplomacy with Putin.
Not sure if this is all a smoke and mirrors dog and pony show and Putin / Trump are playing a script.

Because if I was Putin I would have unleashed hell on Ukraine and taken all of it. Killed off Zelensky and all his crew. Then I would have told the US to butt out it's none of their business what happens on the border with Russia. If I was Putin, I would have also told the USA to start improving things at home first and that there will be no deals or negotiations with the US since it cannot be trusted on anything.

But Putin knows better I guess - I hope for the sake of Russia. Making deals with the US is dangerous. They have double crossed many who went into partnership and trusted them.

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #803 on: August 12, 2025, 03:55:39 PM »
Not sure if this is all a smoke and mirrors dog and pony show and Putin / Trump are playing a script.

Because if I was Putin I would have unleashed hell on Ukraine and taken all of it. Killed off Zelensky and all his crew. Then I would have told the US to butt out it's none of their business what happens on the border with Russia. If I was Putin, I would have also told the USA to start improving things at home first and that there will be no deals or negotiations with the US since it cannot be trusted on anything.

But Putin knows better I guess - I hope for the sake of Russia. Making deals with the US is dangerous. They have double crossed many who went into partnership and trusted them.

Yes throughout Putin has been so deferential and polite to Trump despite his juvenile psychotic outbrurts talking shit about him.

Analysts say Russians again totally dropped the ball on allowing Witkoff to brief Trump first; Trump then told several lies as per usual, like it was Russians who requested this meeting with Witkoff as well as requested the Trump-Putin meeting which is obviously a lie.  The critics say Russians fall into this trap again and again, just letting the US control over the narrative. Of course perceptive observers know the game but many don't.

Yes I've said that Russia surely could have easily eliminated the leadership of Ukraine, Zelensky included. At any time. There is no protection against hypersonic ballistic missiles, none at all. Although they say Zelensky doesn't spend as much time in his office any longer and probably sleeps in a bunker. BTW, have you seen recent footage when Putin makes a public appearance he has drone operators circling him each with a drone in their arms?

Appears as though Russia doesn't want to take the whole of Ukraine, like they've been saying all along. Just now Trump bragged how he gave javelins to Ukraine whereas Obama just gave "sheets " Trump also took credit for stopping the Russian advance into Kiev in the first days of the invasion, "the rains caused the tanks to get stuck in the mud and then they were hit with my javelins, they were a few minutes from Kiev." "This is Biden's war "

Now the white house says this meeting is just a "listening session" and after the face to face Trump will know what Putin will do. It's that 'force of personality' thing he hopes will sway Putin. As if Putin hasn't been clear on his terms for the longest time. The Euros are panicking and are brainstorming how to sabotage this meeting, there was even talk of Zelensky possibly crashing the event. They are afraid Trump is negotiationg away Ukrainian land. That effeminate bitch Lindsey Graham is backing Trump now, "obviously the Russians aren't going to leave, there's bound to be concessions." He of the "bone crushing sanctions bill." Like a bitch he caved as they always do.

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #804 on: August 12, 2025, 05:26:49 PM »
there is a pedophile president in  usa who will penitrate your wife or daughter
if you leave them with him for few hours
even if you tell him you voted for him  :D

he is not  conehead unfunny dishonored moderator like you though  ;D

 ;D ;D
A paki calling someone else a pedo....lol
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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #805 on: August 12, 2025, 07:24:34 PM »
Not sure if this is all a smoke and mirrors dog and pony show and Putin / Trump are playing a script.

Because if I was Putin I would have unleashed hell on Ukraine and taken all of it. Killed off Zelensky and all his crew. Then I would have told the US to butt out it's none of their business what happens on the border with Russia. If I was Putin, I would have also told the USA to start improving things at home first and that there will be no deals or negotiations with the US since it cannot be trusted on anything.

But Putin knows better I guess - I hope for the sake of Russia. Making deals with the US is dangerous. They have double crossed many who went into partnership and trusted them.

Putin should have just unleashed hell and ended this conflict years ago

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #806 on: August 12, 2025, 09:02:05 PM »
What do you think that releasing the Ghislaine Maxwell grand jury testimony would shed light on?

The judge (yesterday) said: “the Government’s motion for their unsealing was aimed not at ‘transparency’ but at diversion, aimed at not full disclosure but at the illusion of such.”

Are you saying now you’re against it?

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #807 on: August 13, 2025, 03:23:41 AM »
Putin should have just unleashed hell and ended this conflict years ago
Agreed — fewer lives might have been lost. I’d love to ask him these questions directly. Any Russians here care to weigh in?

I also don’t understand how the West managed to supply weapons to Ukraine. Russia has satellites. Why not destroy the rail lines and ports? The U.S. bombed Iraq relentlessly under the justification of national security and WMDs, without caring about criticism. For Russia, Ukraine is arguably an even bigger national security concern. Why didn’t they take the gloves off and seize the entire country in 2–4 weeks?

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #808 on: August 13, 2025, 03:36:59 AM »
let it keep going

its morons killing morons

same as gaza and israel


give them more weapons and let them wipe each other off the map

then fuel iran iraq. and india pakistan

the world would be better
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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #809 on: August 13, 2025, 07:52:09 AM »
Agreed — fewer lives might have been lost. I’d love to ask him these questions directly. Any Russians here care to weigh in?

I also don’t understand how the West managed to supply weapons to Ukraine. Russia has satellites. Why not destroy the rail lines and ports? The U.S. bombed Iraq relentlessly under the justification of national security and WMDs, without caring about criticism. For Russia, Ukraine is arguably an even bigger national security concern. Why didn’t they take the gloves off and seize the entire country in 2–4 weeks?

Putin gains mkre by dragging this out. Compare his countries military today to where it was three years ago. Its called practice.

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #810 on: August 13, 2025, 10:27:45 AM »
You just had another Obama appointed judge deny the unsealing of the grand jury despite Trumps DOJ demanding it's unsealing and release. This is the third Obama, Clinton and Biden judge to deny it. But have fun with your Trump is a pedo fantasies. Bottom line, it's almost a dead story

They cannot as there are multiple hurdles, I already said this to you when you claimed this was trump wanting them released. They know they can't and thus can say look we tried. Unsealing testimony is such a stupid way of going about this, they have lists, files etc and can simply release them but in order to avoid having to do so they went this route which everyone knew would not fly.

Bro they released a video that was doctored lol, how much more evidence do you need? they cut time from the video, they spliced together several videos as can be seen in the metadata, why would you do that otherwise.

You are blinded by the right and left shit, its hilarious how you can't be objective. It's just as bad as the lefties saying biden was with it when he literally looked like a weekend at bernies clone.


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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #811 on: August 13, 2025, 12:38:39 PM »
Are you saying now you’re against it?

I’m for transparency. I’m for the perpetrators being prosecuted. I’m for justice for the victims. Releasing the Maxwell grand jury testimony doesn’t do this. It’s basically a smokescreen.

“[T]he evidence put before the Maxwell grand juries is today, with only very minor exceptions, a matter of public record. The Government admitted as much …”

Hence, my question: What do you think that releasing the Maxwell grand jury testimony would shed light on?

Trump & Bondi knew that the judge doesn’t have the authority to unseal it. (Grand jury testimony is kept secret under law.) The DOJ itself conceded in court that case law forbids the court from disclosing those materials.

Trump has broad authority to declassify and release the Epstein files (the DOJ/FBI records.)

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #812 on: August 13, 2025, 01:35:18 PM »

Trump has broad authority to declassify and release the Epstein files (the DOJ/FBI records.)
I agree with your post. I had to check this part though and this is what I found.

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Trump cannot simply declassify and release the Epstein files on his own authority. Releasing court-controlled documents requires court orders, while releasing certain DOJ-held files requires judicial permission upon a formal request. Presidential authority is limited by constitutional checks, judicial independence, and legal procedures to protect fairness, privacy, and the rule of law.
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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #813 on: August 14, 2025, 09:29:48 AM »
This should be moved to the political section IMHO.
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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #814 on: August 15, 2025, 07:28:07 AM »
This should be moved to the political section IMHO.
Like half of the G&O.

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #815 on: August 16, 2025, 04:43:55 PM »
I agree with your post. I had to check this part though and this is what I found.

You stupid  son of a bitch you said you wouldn't believe vans claim just because he says so but you are believing this guys claim  that trump cant release this file while he broke rules and released silk.road founder drug kingpin and shifted ghislain maxwell and override the law

Trump can reveal jfk file but this he cant  :D

I guess whatever makes you worship your pedo daddy ....until trumps fucks your wife or daughter in front of you you will keep worshipping him


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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #816 on: August 16, 2025, 06:00:09 PM »
You stupid  son of a bitch you said you wouldn't believe vans claim just because he says so but you are believing this guys claim  that trump cant release this file while he broke rules and released silk.road founder drug kingpin and shifted ghislain maxwell and override the law

Trump can reveal jfk file but this he cant  :D

I guess whatever makes you worship your pedo daddy ....until trumps fucks your wife or daughter in front of you you will keep worshipping him


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I'm kind of sad the Bushes missed your mud hut.
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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #817 on: August 16, 2025, 11:11:21 PM »
I'm kind of sad your father and uncle raped my mother in goa still I don't have glowing muscle genetics or heavy bank account


Don't worry if you stop posting in forum middle of the night and check out where is your whore mother is ( with me ) then you will realise importance of glowing muscle that' i have and money i have


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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #818 on: August 17, 2025, 02:36:41 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/17/ghislaine-maxwell-transcripts-epstein-trump
Ghislaine Maxwell’s grand jury transcripts are likely a dud, but other documents could reveal much
The din might have died down for now, but the Epstein imbroglio might rear its head again when Congress returns
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“Insofar as the motion to unseal implies that the grand jury materials are an untapped mine lode of undisclosed information about Epstein or Maxwell or confederates, they definitively are not that,” Engelmayer said, adding that anyone who expected new information to emerge from the documents “would come away feeling disappointed and misled”.
“There is no ‘there’ there,” Engelmayer said in his written decision.
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