Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25

[Necrosis]

Arguing semantics makes you sound even dumber.

90% of all counties shifted right.

That doesn't matter, its not semantics its a fact. If I win 90% of the games in basketball but win by 1 point at the buzzer it's not domination. Landslide is referencing the gap not the overall percentage.

Would you like a clearer analogy, statistics can help here.

If I beat a team by 1 point, thats 100% win, however, its not a landslide, if I beat this team by 50 points its.. wait for it, you guessed it 100% win but a landslide victory.

Your stats are meaningless without context and the context you are choosing is the word landslide which indicates a overwhelming victory. it simply wasnt'

If you grant that trumps was a landslide then what was bidens victory over him? by greater margins with the most votes in HISTORY?

The numbers don't back you hyperbole and if you want to be consistent or coherent at least you need to grant that trump was absolutely spanked by Biden, but you won't because your not interested in truth or sound argument but your team winning.

I could give zero fucks about biden, trump, harris etc...

[illuminati]

Hey dummy

Biden had the most votes cast for any president in HISTORY. Biden had 81 million votes to trumps 74 million

Biden beat trump 306 to 226 electoral college and he won 51% of the popular vote

Trump beat a candidate that was a replacement candidate and a woman

he got 77 million votes to kamalas 75 million for 49.8% of the vote

Kamala got more votes then trump did vs biden and higher percentage of the popular vote than he did, trump got slightly over 1% more of the popular vote while Biden got 7% more lol.

Biden was a landslide, it wasn't even close. Trump barely eked out a win and had 6 more electoral college votes.

A fucking landslide they are saying, maybe learn some math. He couldn;t have been running against a shittier opponent.

Ahhh Pronoun Boy
Khvnt - Twat - Idiot - Queer Boy

And yet again you Dopey Twat
Are replying to something I posted to
The Organ Grinder & Not his idiot monkey
You. 🙄


Yep I must remember this is who I’m dealing with

[Necrosis]

Ahhh Pronoun Boy
Khvnt - Twat - Idiot - Queer Boy

And yet again you Dopey Twat
Are replying to something I posted to
The Organ Grinder & Not his idiot monkey
You. 🙄


Yep I must remember this is who I’m dealing with

you are a strange lil man.

[Grape Ape]

That doesn't matter, its not semantics its a fact. If I win 90% of the games in basketball but win by 1 point at the buzzer it's not domination. Landslide is referencing the gap not the overall percentage.

Would you like a clearer analogy, statistics can help here.

If I beat a team by 1 point, thats 100% win, however, its not a landslide, if I beat this team by 50 points its.. wait for it, you guessed it 100% win but a landslide victory.

Your stats are meaningless without context and the context you are choosing is the word landslide which indicates a overwhelming victory. it simply wasnt'

If you grant that trumps was a landslide then what was bidens victory over him? by greater margins with the most votes in HISTORY?

The numbers don't back you hyperbole and if you want to be consistent or coherent at least you need to grant that trump was absolutely spanked by Biden, but you won't because your not interested in truth or sound argument but your team winning.

I could give zero fucks about biden, trump, harris etc...

Lol, you give zero fucks but it's practically the only thing you post about.

Either way, this game is not measured by the popular vote.  It's measured by the electoral college.

By those rules, Trump won 312 to 226, or 86 electoral votes.

Landslide.

[Necrosis]

Lol, you give zero fucks but it's practically the only thing you post about.

Either way, this game is not measured by the popular vote.  It's measured by the electoral college.

By those rules, Trump won 312 to 226, or 86 electoral votes.

Landslide.

now now you can't move the goalposts- thats 7 more than Biden and he has way more votes in total, again a record. In HISTORY.

So nope it wasn't a landslide. I know you want it to be.

I only enjoy politics, religious debates and nutrition medicine talk on here, shit people are passionate or heated about.

This place is also heavy right, so anything I post will get venom lolol.

[Grape Ape]

now now you can't move the goalposts- thats 7 more than Biden and he has way more votes in total, again a record. In HISTORY.

So nope it wasn't a landslide. I know you want it to be.

I only enjoy politics, religious debates and nutrition medicine talk on here, shit people are passionate or heated about.

This place is also heavy right, so anything I post will get venom lolol.

I don't care if he won by a single EV.

The alternative was far worse, and we're much better off.

He's doing what he campaigned on, which is what I voted for.  Have there been some unforced errors?  Sure, but that happens in every Presidency.  Of course, the national media and left will laser focus on the bad, and ignore the good as much as they can.

Regardless, I know for a fact he won the popular vote, won the EC by a huge margin, won every swing state, won the house and the senate, and 90% of the counties in the country got more red.

If you don't think that's a landslide, I don't really care.  I know that due the the demographics of NYC and LA, no R will ever win by enough votes to fit your definition.

[chaos]

You know how journalism works.

I know that. It probably had more honor back in the day. Now every dipshit with an opinion throws it out there as fact and backs it up with "an anonymous source said" bullshit. Who can you really trust to be telling you the truth?

[loco]

Regardless, I know for a fact he won the popular vote, won the EC by a huge margin, won every swing state, won the house and the senate, and 90% of the counties in the country got more red.

Landslide.   

What a dummy Trump must be.

[Van_Bilderass]

And yet, Trump was elected US President, twice, by a landslide the second time winning the popular vote too, even though the establishment and very powerful people from both parties strongly opposed him.  What a dummy Trump must be.

I've said on here that if I was a US citizen I probably would have voted for him too, even if just for the laughs, and he keeps delivering. People voted for him for different reasons, for example because the alternative would have been absolutely horrible. OTOH the issues a US President deals with can have serious negative consequences too, so it might not be all laughs if for example decisions lead to wars, or god forbid to even a nuclear holocaust. I don't know what the Russians really think of Trump, what do you think? There were claims the Russians wanted Trump but several high-up Russians and pro-Russians have repeatedly said they generally always prefer predictability, hinting that while Biden was bad he would have been easier to read. I don't know. The Russians keep complimenting Trump now but the question is if it's genuine or just smart strategy; everyone knows Trump likes to be praised.

I think it might be stretch to always equate success with intelligence. And someone might have a high degree of 'force of personality' while being neither educated nor particularly "intelligent." Trump himself thinks his personality alone can sway everyone, like in the case of Russia, but it hasn't worked so well so far...

[Grape Ape]

I've said on here that if I was a US citizen I probably would have voted for him too, even if just for the laughs, and he keeps delivering. People voted for him for different reasons, for example because the alternative would have been absolutely horrible. OTOH the issues a US President deals with can have serious negative consequences too, so it might not be all laughs if for example decisions lead to wars, or god forbid to even a nuclear holocaust. I don't know what the Russians really think of Trump, what do you think? There were claims the Russians wanted Trump but several high-up Russians and pro-Russians have repeatedly said they generally always prefer predictability, hinting that while Biden was bad he would have been easier to read. I don't know. The Russians keep complimenting Trump now but the question is if it's genuine or just smart strategy; everyone knows Trump likes to be praised.

I think it might be stretch to always equate success with intelligence. And someone might have a high degree of 'force of personality' while being neither educated nor particularly "intelligent." Trump himself thinks his personality alone can sway everyone, like in the case of Russia, but it hasn't worked so well so far...

He's been in office 9 months and already ended one of the conflicts he's set out to do.

And he's working diligently to end the other, but it will take time.  None of this happened under Biden, or would under Harris.

He's only a victim of his own hubris and hyperbole ("I will end the conflict day one").

But it's funny to me how you folks obsess over the nuance of shit, rather than the big picture - "ok he did this, but he's not REALLY that smart, Ok he was successful in business but got his Dad's money and got lucky, oh he had the number one show on TV, but not because he's good at it".....who f'n cares?  It's not something normal, well adjusted folks tend to worry about.

[Van_Bilderass]

I know that. It probably had more honor back in the day. Now every dipshit with an opinion throws it out there as fact and backs it up with "an anonymous source said" bullshit. Who can you really trust to be telling you the truth?

Yes and I always keep in mind that all journalism has an agenda, it's silly to expect total objectivity. As far as journalists go that Seymour Hersh fella has had a pretty successful career from what I can tell, so I can believe he probably does have good sources. Though they might be feeding him bullshit too so his work is only as good as his sources. But all these big exposes usually require a lot of anonymous sources. A couple of days before the US bombing of Iran he wrote an article saying his sources said an attack would probably come "this weekend" and it did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Hersh

[Van_Bilderass]

He's been in office 9 months and already ended one of the conflicts he's set out to do.

And he's working diligently to end the other, but it will take time.  None of this happened under Biden, or would under Harris.

He's only a victim of his own hubris and hyperbole ("I will end the conflict day one").

But it's funny to me how you folks obsess over the nuance of shit, rather than the big picture - "ok he did this, but he's not REALLY that smart".....who f'n cares?  It's not something normal, well adjusted folks tend to worry about.

This isn't that serious to me, it's just that I have time to "obsess" right now. Trump says he's ended 7 wars so far, and in several cases it was questionable if it was a war in the first place or if it had actually ended Others say he's started several new serious conflicts but that can be debated too.

That Nobel Peace Prize is quite the story too, many feel it was actually given to Trump in a sense, as an approval stamp for a Trump invasion/regime change in Venezuela. The winner being a long time CIA and Mossad asset

[Grape Ape]

This isn't that serious to me, it's just that I have time to "obsess" right now. Trump says he's ended 7 wars so far, and in several cases it was questionable if it was a war in the first place or if it had actually ended Others say he's started several new serious conflicts but that can be debated too.

That Nobel Peace Prize is quite the story too, many feel it was actually given to Trump in a sense, as an approval stamp for a Trump invasion/regime change in Venezuela. The winner being a long time CIA and Mossad asset

Trumps' detractors take him literally, Trump's supporters take him seriously.  Big difference.  However, there's always going to be bluster with this guy - one, it's his personality, but two, it's a response to the unprecedented attacks he's enfured 24/7 since his original election - think about it - the prior admin legit tried to unseat him with Russiagate, then tried to get him off the ballots in states last election, then tried to jail him or smear him with horseshit cases, then literally tried to kill him.

So, since they couldn't stop him, now they highlight complete noise and ridiculousness to detract from what he's actually doing.  And so many of you all fall for it.

Listen to the John Kariakou episode on the PBD podcast from 3 months ago - it will show you what these guys have been doing, and has some interesting stuff on how shitty Israel can be (so you'll like it.....  )

[Coach is Back!]

He barely won, so even if he won the popular vote it's not a landslide. Biden won in a landslide according to your logic.

I mean I am fine with him winning etc but a landslide is non-sensical unless you grant similar margins of victory a landslide, which they were not and you would not.

Also, mandate my ass, 33% of the people voted for him ffs.

Yes..actually beyond a landslide and to add to Grape’s long list. He flipped 89% of the counties red, highest percentage of Hispanic, Gay, Muslim, black, Jewish and youth votes by a Republican (the Democrats youth vote is all but gone especially after the Charlie Kirk’s assassination)

It wasn’t just a landslide and a mandate, it was a devastating landslide and loud mandate and here we are almost a year later and the communist Dems have not just quadrupled down on what they lost on, they’ve made it worse. They still have no platform, no leader, no direction, no message, no nothing. The entire fucking government shutdown is because they want in the bill, what they lost on.
Political violence is their response

[Grape Ape]

It wasn’t just a landslide and a mandate, it was a devastating landslide and loud mandate and here we are almost a year later and the communist Dems have not just quadrupled down on what they lost on, they’ve made it worse. They still have no platform, no leader, no direction, no message, no nothing. The entire fucking government shutdown is because they want in the bill, what they lost on.
Political violence is their response

This is 100% truth.  While Trump is flying to Egypt to sign a historic peace deal, Schumer and Co are here scrambling to find a message to support their gov't shutdown.

If you didn't think they could sink any lower, you'd be wrong.

They are a complete mess of a party.

[Necrosis]

Yes..actually beyond a landslide and to add to Grape’s long list. He flipped 89% of the counties red, highest percentage of Hispanic, Gay, Muslim, black, Jewish and youth votes by a Republican (the Democrats youth vote is all but gone especially after the Charlie Kirk’s assassination)

It wasn’t just a landslide and a mandate, it was a devastating landslide and loud mandate and here we are almost a year later and the communist Dems have not just quadrupled down on what they lost on, they’ve made it worse. They still have no platform, no leader, no direction, no message, no nothing. The entire fucking government shutdown is because they want in the bill, what they lost on.
Political violence is their response

none of what you are saying is true, it appears you don;t understand what the words you are meaning actually mean. Trump got less overall votes than biden by a wide margin and no one said Biden had a mandate. I know thats what you want to believe so you can trample others rights and become that right wing authoritarian country you would love it to be.

The shut the government down HAHAHAHAHAAH.

You are fully retarded. You have the president, senate and congress and the libs shut the goverment down. I love how they won't swear him the deciding vote on the epstein files.

Have some common sense my man.

Biden was a weekend at bernies prop, hilarious to see tbh, trump is a fucking moron who is destroying your country. He fucked the farmers fucking hard, wants journalists to sign onto these insane rules so they can spoonfeed the press the "news".

[Necrosis]

This is 100% truth.  While Trump is flying to Egypt to sign a historic peace deal, Schumer and Co are here scrambling to find a message to support their gov't shutdown.

If you didn't think they could sink any lower, you'd be wrong.

They are a complete mess of a party.

You are in a bizzaro world if you think the libs are the reason the government is shut down lol.

Everything trump does is for his own glory, the guy was begging for the nobel . It's sad to see people support such a failure of a human being.

Answer me a question, Biden got more votes that anyone in history, was that a landslide? was that a mandate? are you able to answer the question truthfully?

a third of the country didnt vote, a third voted against him and you guys are acting like he has some mandate to shove through anything he wants like a dictator, meanwhile every reasonable poll shows he is underwater on everything.

[Coach is Back!]

none of what you are saying is true, it appears you don;t understand what the words you are meaning actually mean. Trump got less overall votes than biden by a wide margin and no one said Biden had a mandate. I know thats what you want to believe so you can trample others rights and become that right wing authoritarian country you would love it to be.

The shut the government down HAHAHAHAHAAH.

You are fully retarded. You have the president, senate and congress and the libs shut the goverment down. I love how they won't swear him the deciding vote on the epstein files.

Have some common sense my man.

Biden was a weekend at bernies prop, hilarious to see tbh, trump is a fucking moron who is destroying your country. He fucked the farmers fucking hard, wants journalists to sign onto these insane rules so they can spoonfeed the press the "news".

It’s 1000% true and accurate. They have nothing and Newsom’s unconditional attempt at redistricting is even more proof of their desperation.

[Coach is Back!]

You are in a bizzaro world if you think the libs are the reason the government is shut down lol.

Everything trump does is for his own glory, the guy was begging for the nobel . It's sad to see people support such a failure of a human being.

Answer me a question, Biden got more votes that anyone in history, was that a landslide? was that a mandate? are you able to answer the question truthfully?

a third of the country didnt vote, a third voted against him and you guys are acting like he has some mandate to shove through anything he wants like a dictator, meanwhile every reasonable poll shows he is underwater on everything.

Sounds like you have no idea what’s even going on

[Grape Ape]

You are in a bizzaro world if you think the libs are the reason the government is shut down lol.

Everything trump does is for his own glory, the guy was begging for the nobel . It's sad to see people support such a failure of a human being.

Answer me a question, Biden got more votes that anyone in history, was that a landslide? was that a mandate? are you able to answer the question truthfully?

a third of the country didnt vote, a third voted against him and you guys are acting like he has some mandate to shove through anything he wants like a dictator, meanwhile every reasonable poll shows he is underwater on everything.

Even liberal hack media members like Tapper are saying it.  Here's John Fetterman's own words:

In a stunning admission that undercut weeks of Democratic spin, Senator John Fetterman (D-PA) dropped a political grenade at a NewsNation town hall at the Kennedy Center this week — squarely blaming his own party for the federal government shutdown.

Fetterman didn’t mince words.

“That’s why shutting the government is really what the Democratic Party wants to do,” he told moderator Chris Cuomo to audible audience applause. “I follow country, then party. And it’s the wrong thing for the country.” He made clear he would not support using a shutdown as leverage in negotiations.

Fetterman, one of the Senate’s most outspoken members, openly criticized Democrats for structuring the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) subsidies to expire at the end of 2025.

“This was designed by the Democratic Party to expire at the end of the year,” he said. “This is not something taken by the Republicans.” Translation: the expiration wasn’t some conservative plot — it was baked into the policy by Democrats themselves.

So, if liberals themselves are saying it, how does that constitute a "bizarro" world.  A bizzaro world would imply NOBODY thinks it's the Democrats.  So, instead of just hurling your hyperbolic opinion as fact, why not back it up with something tangible?

As for the Biden thing you keep harping on, even though it was not part of the original point, plenty of folks said after the 2020 election that it was a referendum against Trump.  But 90% of the counties didn't shift blue, he didn't win every swing state, and his EC margin was smaller than 2024.

And Biden reversed many of Trump's policies out of spite, the most egregious being the reversal of the Stay in Mexico policy, which ultimately led to record border crossings, and causing the Trumpian landslide in 2024.

Also, Trump just negotiated Middle East peace.  How is that a fail?  And, as I've said before, if a leader aligns his ego with the goals of the country, who gives a fuck?  It's the results that count.

You're regressing dude.

[illuminati]

Even liberal hack media members like Tapper are saying it.  Here's John Fetterman's own words:

So, if liberals themselves are saying it, how does that constitute a "bizarro" world.  A bizzaro world would imply NOBODY thinks it's the Democrats.  So, instead of just hurling your hyperbolic opinion as fact, why not back it up with something tangible?

As for the Biden thing you keep harping on, even though it was not part of the original point, plenty of folks said after the 2020 election that it was a referendum against Trump.  But 90% of the counties didn't shift blue, he didn't win every swing state, and his EC margin was smaller than 2024.

And Biden reversed many of Trump's policies out of spite, the most egregious being the reversal of the Stay in Mexico policy, which ultimately led to record border crossings, and causing the Trumpian landslide in 2024.

Also, Trump just negotiated Middle East peace.  How is that a fail?  And, as I've said before, if a leader aligns his ego with the goals of the country, who gives a fuck?  It's the results that count.

You're regressing dude.

He's a very Fucked little minded brainwashed Libturd  - That is Plainly evident in all he posts.
A Strang small little Canadian Pronoun 'it'   

[Van_Bilderass]

What are you guys' thoughts on Trump's approach to the Ukraine war? Financial Times had an interesting article regarding the recent Zelensky-Trump meeting.

https://archive.is/1GKwe
Nice analysis here:
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/media-reveals-trumps-private-inversion

It alleges Trump was pressuring Zelensky to accept a settlement along Russian lines and it became a row with Trump 'cursing' and so on. I don't know if Trump fans here will agree, but Trump is in a bind because he's desperate to not be blamed for Ukraine's defeat. If he publicly acknowledges Putin "won" and he withdraws support he will be blamed for the defeat and will be called weak, Putin's bitch or whatever. So publicly he claims Russia's economy is shit, they have these millions of KIAs and that Ukraine can win back everything "and more," when in actuality it was just veiled sarcasm. I see the Trump-Putin Budapest meeting isn't happening now either because there's nothing to discuss, Russia holds 'all the cards.'

I guess my question is how 'should' Trump handle this debacle? Personally I have a hard time with people who constantly bluff and lie and deceive (I might have some degree of autism) Trump also publicly constantly badmouths Putin and the Russians have to treat him with kids gloves and keep a happy face because this is serious bidness and Trump has the 'codes.' Obviously, on a larger timeline, the US subscribes to this Grand Strategy thing, in which Russia is the enemy to be weakened and destroyed and Trump is part of that. OTOH Ukraine is a boil on Trump's ass and he'd like to pivot resources towards China for that war. He'd also like to add "nr 9" to his resumé.

"U.S. grand strategy involves coordinating all forms of national power—diplomacy, military, economic, and information—to achieve long-term foreign policy objectives, a strategy focused on maintaining American primacy through military dominance, a global alliance network, and U.S.-led international institutions. However, this approach has drawn criticism for being costly and overstretching U.S. capabilities, leading to calls for strategies like restraint or selective engagement."

Also, Trump just negotiated Middle East peace.  How is that a fail?  And, as I've said before, if a leader aligns his ego with the goals of the country, who gives a fuck?  It's the results that count.

Trump got 20 Israeli live hostages back but there's no peace. The ceasefire didn't hold at all. The 20 point Peace Plan was a joke from the beginning and there was no intention of keeping to it, on either side. Hamas won't disarm and Israel is determined to cleanse the area of Palestinians. Same old.

I don't know about you, but the designs of these US Jews to grab the land and develop prime real estate on the blood and bones of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian dead seems extremely tasteless to me.

[illuminati]

What are you guys' thoughts on Trump's approach to the Ukraine war? Financial Times had an interesting article regarding the recent Zelensky-Trump meeting.

https://www.ft.com/content/7960c6aa-dbfa-4a55-91e8-ae44601842ec
Nice analysis here:
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/media-reveals-trumps-private-inversion

It alleges Trump was pressuring Zelensky to accept a settlement along Russian lines and it became a row with Trump 'cursing' and so on. I don't know if Trump fans here will agree, but Trump is in a bind because he's desperate to not be blamed for Ukraine's defeat. If he publicly acknowledges Putin "won" and he withdraws support he will be blamed for the defeat and will be called weak, Putin's bitch or whatever. So publicly he claims Russia's economy is shit, they have these millions of KIAs and that Ukraine can win back everything "and more," when in actuality it was just veiled sarcasm. I see the Trump-Putin Budapest meeting isn't happening now either because there's nothing to discuss, Russia holds 'all the cards.'

I guess my question is how 'should' Trump handle this debacle? Personally I have a hard time with people who constantly bluff and lie and deceive (I might have some degree of autism) Trump also publicly constantly badmouths Putin and the Russians have to treat him with kids gloves and keep a happy face because this is serious bidness and Trump has the 'codes.' Obviously, on a larger timeline, the US subscribes to this Grand Strategy thing, in which Russia is the enemy to be weakened and destroyed and Trump is part of that. OTOH Ukraine is a boil on Trump's ass and he'd like to pivot resources towards China for that war. He'd also like to add "nr 9" to his resumé.

"U.S. grand strategy involves coordinating all forms of national power—diplomacy, military, economic, and information—to achieve long-term foreign policy objectives, a strategy focused on maintaining American primacy through military dominance, a global alliance network, and U.S.-led international institutions. However, this approach has drawn criticism for being costly and overstretching U.S. capabilities, leading to calls for strategies like restraint or selective engagement."

Why do you bother reading let alone quoting anything from the lying scumbag MSM.
Check the day & date on the articles as they'll even lie about them if they can & it fits
With their agenda.

[chaos]

I guess my question is how 'should' Trump handle this debacle?

Pull out all support, fuck ukraine.

[illuminati]

Pull out all support, fuck ukraine.

Yes my sentiments exactly.