Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25

[Dave D]

I'm not defending Trumps bad decisions, I'm making fun of people that have spent the last 10 years being obsessed with his every move while defending illegal aliens and hoping for the downfall of the US. These people are to be treated with contempt and disgust. We need to get back to the center so we can have rational discussions.

Agreed.

I was trying to find a middle ground with Trump comment, but I was baffled that an intelligent person would make a comparison between an immigrant and an illegal immigrant, as if Melania was granted citizenship because she gave birth to a child here.

[Necrosis]

Agreed.

I was trying to find a middle ground with Trump comment, but I was baffled that an intelligent person would make a comparison between an immigrant and an illegal immigrant, as if Melania was granted citizenship because she gave birth to a child here.

What is the actual data on immigration though?

Obama deported a crazy amount and it was more skewed towards criminals. Is the open border rhetoric actually factual or just populist bullshit?

[Grape Ape]

What is the actual data on immigration though?

Obama deported a crazy amount and it was more skewed towards criminals. Is the open border rhetoric actually factual or just populist bullshit?

I believe the majority of Obama's deports were done right at border - like 85-90% near the end of his term%  Got caught, sent right back.  Like it should happen.

This admin can't do that due to the prior administration letting them in.  Interior deports were always going to be messy.

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I believe the majority of Obama's deports were done right at border - like 85-90% near the end of his term%  Got caught, sent right back.  Like it should happen.

This admin can't do that due to the prior administration letting them in.  Interior deports were always going to be messy.

What I was asking was what are the actual facts? were people coming in at a certain percentage, etc.. Was the charge against biden correct? if it was why would they do that? its not for votes as we already know, they don't vote. Cheap labor?

Messy is a interesting word to use for what has occurred.

[LurkerNoMore]

Agreed.

I was trying to find a middle ground with Trump comment, but I was baffled that an intelligent person would make a comparison between an immigrant and an illegal immigrant, as if Melania was granted citizenship because she gave birth to a child here.

Again, you obviously did not comprehend what I wrote.  Because the only comparison between a legal or illegal immigrant was from the fat boy of the board.  Not me.   I'll use smaller words for you.  Melania went on a surprise tv press conference talking about the very thing her husband called a hoax.  In response, Trumpy posted a video of a woman being beat to death with a hammer.  Kind of a comical response when you think it was getbigger like in nature as if he were saying "I'm gonna beat your ass when I get home."

As far as the anchor baby comment, she and her husband did the exact thing that he now wants to eliminate other people from doing.  Hypocrisy at it's finest. 

Do try harder to keep up.

[Grape Ape]

What I was asking was what are the actual facts? were people coming in at a certain percentage, etc.. Was the charge against biden correct? if it was why would they do that? its not for votes as we already know, they don't vote. Cheap labor?

Messy is a interesting word to use for what has occurred.

This is the question I have asked repeatedly, but nobody can answer.

It absolutely could be for votes, just not how you think - house seats are allocated based on total population, not citizens.  So importing tons of illegals and shipping them to certain blue states could have a big effect.

Then, hope to enact a path for citizenship, and get the votes as well.

As for messy, yes.  Interior deports are much more difficult.  Throw in the left deliberately causing chaos around it, and it appears even worse.

[GymnJuice]

This is the question I have asked repeatedly, but nobody can answer.

It absolutely could be for votes, just not how you think - house seats are allocated based on total population, not citizens.  So importing tons of illegals and shipping them to certain blue states could have a big effect.

Then, hope to enact a path for citizenship, and get the votes as well.

As for messy, yes.  Interior deports are much more difficult.  Throw in the left deliberately causing chaos around it, and it appears even worse.

I did not realize this. That is a big deal.

[Grape Ape]

I did not realize this. That is a big deal.

Yeah, it's the only plausible thing I can think of to justify what they did.

Move them to blue states, get more seats.

Move them to swing states (which I believe they did and can be tracked on the gov't site), get citizenship, never lose another election again.

If this doesn't work, do what they just did in Virginia.

[Necrosis]

This is the question I have asked repeatedly, but nobody can answer.

It absolutely could be for votes, just not how you think - house seats are allocated based on total population, not citizens.  So importing tons of illegals and shipping them to certain blue states could have a big effect.

Then, hope to enact a path for citizenship, and get the votes as well.

As for messy, yes.  Interior deports are much more difficult.  Throw in the left deliberately causing chaos around it, and it appears even worse.

Is that true? do more immigrants head to blue states vs red states? They were shipping them to blue states?

What is the evidence for that?

[chaos]

You are framing it like he isn't in the files more than almost anyone

Says who? Can you provide a link to whatever article counted the number of times Trump was mentioned vs others in the millions of pages that were released? Or are you lying again?

What is the actual data on immigration though?

Obama deported a crazy amount and it was more skewed towards criminals. Is the open border rhetoric actually factual or just populist bullshit?

Where does that stat come from?

Is that true? do more immigrants head to blue states vs red states? They were shipping them to blue states?

What is the evidence for that?

Of course they do, those states are sanctuary states or contain sanctuary cities. That's not a secret. Were "they" shipping them to blue states? Well there has been evidence posted before of other states sending their illegals/homeless to CA in buses. What happened when they (illegals) were bused to Marthas Vineyard? So yeah "they" are shipping them to other states.

[Grape Ape]

Is that true? do more immigrants head to blue states vs red states? They were shipping them to blue states?

What is the evidence for that?

AI is your friend here.

Data aspect: There were documented large percentage increases in unauthorized migrant encounters or estimates in several swing states during the Biden years (often triple-digit in some metrics from low baselines). The administration also used programs like parole, asylum processing, and NGO-supported flights/relocations for some migrants, including to various cities.

But regardless, why do YOU think Biden allowed so many illegals in?

[Dave D]

Again, you obviously did not comprehend what I wrote.  Because the only comparison between a legal or illegal immigrant was from the fat boy of the board.  Not me.   I'll use smaller words for you.  Melania went on a surprise tv press conference talking about the very thing her husband called a hoax.  In response, Trumpy posted a video of a woman being beat to death with a hammer.  Kind of a comical response when you think it was getbigger like in nature as if he were saying "I'm gonna beat your ass when I get home."

As far as the anchor baby comment, she and her husband did the exact thing that he now wants to eliminate other people from doing.  Hypocrisy at it's finest. 

Do try harder to keep up.

This is what you said.
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An immigrant?  Like Melania was prior?
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By someone Bideny let in the country?

Do you know the difference  between an immigrant and an illegal immigrant?

I’m with you. Trump calling the Epstein files a hoax, when he ran on releasing the files, and then called those who wanted the files released losers was ridiculous.

Maybe also refresh your understanding of the what an anchor baby is. She was trumps legal wife for a year than had a baby and shortly after that received US citizenship.

[Necrosis]

AI is your friend here.

But regardless, why do YOU think Biden allowed so many illegals in?

l will have to look into it further and get back to you.

[Grape Ape]

l will have to look into it further and get back to you.

Just wanted an opinion.....wasn't necessarily looking for you to hunt it down.

But let's see what you get.