Mike Francios

[gh15]

THE 90S HAD MORE HORMONES/DRUGS INVOLVED IN BODYBUILDING. THERE WAS LESS SUPERVISION AND THE PRO MENTIONED WAS A DRUG ADDICT WITH AVERAGE GENETICS. now it is very hard to get real para then it was piece of cake. now days it is lots of home brew and ug crap...back then during late 80s early to mid 90 you could get anything pharmacy grade for good prices.

i dont wanna respond so avoid arguing with me since im sleepy

[Tomanater]

THE 90S HAD MORE HORMONES/DRUGS INVOLVED IN BODYBUILDING. THERE WAS LESS SUPERVISION AND THE PRO MENTIONED WAS A DRUG ADDICT WITH AVERAGE GENETICS. now it is very hard to get real para then it was piece of cake. now days it is lots of home brew and ug crap...back then during late 80s early to mid 90 you could get anything pharmacy grade for good prices.

i dont wanna respond so avoid arguing with me since im sleepy

Average genetics. .Drug addict..You mean rec drugs???cause thats what I think of when you say Drug addict..So he was a drug addict ,had average genetics there was more shit involved in the 90s and the gear was real..Thats why he looked like he did??..Hmmmm..OK..I have been in this game since 88 and I aint buying it..

[schwarzenpecker]

No, gh15 Mike Francois busted his ass with powerlifting, that's how he got his incredible thickness that you don't see today. He did the same drugs that everyone else was doing at the time, the difference was work ethic and great genetics. He didn't have a gut like alot of the guys today because he didn't do insulin. If he had kept competing and gone on the drugs the guys use today, he would've been bigger like Ronnie Coleman  but with a big gut.

[tommywishbone]

"... there was less supervision..." 

Well, he had a note from his mom, that said it was OK for him to use Anadrol.

[gh15]

ok im goin to sleep after this
if the dude had amazing genetics he wouldnt quit due to illness and wouldnt fuck himself up. get the amazing genetics garbage out of your vocabulary...
let milos train a kid from age 16-17 and feed him lots of calories + good training + hormones at the right time and dose and he will be just as thick. enough of that genetics crap already man,,

now...mr francois was addicted not to rec drugs but like all of us he was addicted to hormones. NO it was not the ONLY thing that made him big and thick...but trust me it stands up there at the top of the list together with nutrition amd good training that involved good form! with the right weight! and no super heavy nothing. might be heavy for your size/weight but not for his! it is all proportional.

i dont wanna start explaining about the pot belly but we all have it and he did too and its not only due to slin. some dont even respond to slin. as i wrote in few of my past posts it is combo of things.

lastly he did do the same drugs everything else did those days but it was way better quality and quantity and a lot more affordable and less supervision as in less goverment interferance if at all! so that is why you like the 90s physiqe more! they used a lot more steroids rather than gh and thus were a lot less disturbed looking!

thats that

* anapolon is a shitty crappy drug unless taken in major quantity atleast 3-4 tabs a day if not more with the fakes running around now days.



 

[shiftedShapes]

ok im goin to sleep after this
if the dude had amazing genetics he wouldnt quit due to illness and wouldnt f**k himself up. get the amazing genetics garbage out of your vocabulary...
let milos train a kid from age 16-17 and feed him lots of calories + good training + hormones at the right time and dose and he will be just as thick. enough of that genetics crap already man,,

now...mr francois was addicted not to rec drugs but like all of us he was addicted to hormones. NO it was not the ONLY thing that made him big and thick...but trust me it stands up there at the top of the list together with nutrition amd good training that involved good form! with the right weight! and no super heavy nothing. might be heavy for your size/weight but not for his! it is all proportional.

i dont wanna start explaining about the pot belly but we all have it and he did too and its not only due to slin. some dont even respond to slin. as i wrote in few of my past posts it is combo of things.

lastly he did do the same drugs everything else did those days but it was way better quality and quantity and a lot more affordable and less supervision as in less goverment interferance if at all! so that is why you like the 90s physiqe more! they used a lot more steroids rather than gh and thus were a lot less disturbed looking!

thats that

* anapolon is a shitty crappy drug unless taken in major quantity atleast 3-4 tabs a day if not more with the fakes running around now days.



 

this is an interesting theory

I would like to hear more from people who frequent the hardcore board.

[travisma]

GH15.......You have been smoking some crack obviously. Colitis is genetic, not caused by steroids. Get you facts straight before attacking a great pro.

[gh15]

GH15.......You have been smoking some crack obviously. Colitis is genetic, not caused by steroids. Get you facts straight before attacking a great pro.

me said quot: "if the dude had amazing genetics he wouldnt quit due to illness and wouldnt f**k himself up."

me meant quot: "IF HE HAD AMAZING GENETICS HE WOULD NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH COLITIS AND WOULD ALSO BE TOWERING AT 6'3" OVER YOU. HIS GENETICS SUCKED! YOU DONT KNOW WHY HE QUITED AND WHAT CONTRIBUTED TO THAT. I KNOW PERSONALY THE GANG IN OHIO AND HOW THEY OPERATE.

lets put it nicely here. he quited due to colitis and thus his genetics is fucked and thus he fucked himself up and could not continue his wonderful career.

last sentence was politically correct for all the homos on getbig so you dont cry that i attack old mike

NOW IM OUT TO SLEEP!

[schwarzenpecker]

Height doesn't have  anything to do with good genetics in bodybuilding. Look at Shawn Ray, he's only 5'6". Gunter is 6'1" but his waist is too wide. Flex Wheeler had great genetics for building muscle and being symmetrical but he still had a hereditary kidney disease that was aggravated by steroids, diuretics and the contest diet. This is an unlucky fate. Having great genetics for bb and having hereditary organ problems are two separate issues.

Mike Francois had a great structure for bodybuilding, wide shoulders, small waist  was able to put on huge amounts of muscle without looking blocky. Not everyone can do that just because Milos is training them and they are on a good cycle.

BTW gh15, can you honestly look at all of these classic pictures of Francois and not be impressed? Who looks better today? NO ONE!

[LuciusFox]

His waist was tiny and he was wide as a barndoor

 This pic is extremely impressive

[travisma]

me said quot: "if the dude had amazing genetics he wouldnt quit due to illness and wouldnt f**k himself up."

me meant quot: "IF HE HAD AMAZING GENETICS HE WOULD NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH COLITIS AND WOULD ALSO BE TOWERING AT 6'3" OVER YOU. HIS GENETICS SUCKED! YOU DONT KNOW WHY HE QUITED AND WHAT CONTRIBUTED TO THAT. I KNOW PERSONALY THE GANG IN OHIO AND HOW THEY OPERATE.

lets put it nicely here. he quited due to colitis and thus his genetics is fucked and thus he fucked himself up and could not continue his wonderful career.

last sentence was politically correct for all the homos on getbig so you dont cry that i attack old mike

NOW IM OUT TO SLEEP!

He had great genetics to build muscle. Colitis is a genetic disorder that can appear at anytime, no matter if you are a bodybuilder or not.

I dont give a shit if it is politically correct or not. You just dont know what you are saying. And knowing the gang in OHIO??? Big deal, does that give you the right to say someone was fucked like that? Are u family? nope....didnt think so.

[KevinP85]

Mike was one of the best, got to see him in 97. HUGE!!!! Does anyone have pics or seen him lately though?

[the shadow]

i have always like mikes body...huge ripped and thick..one of the best ever..he competed at a bodyweight of 250lbs but looked like he was 260-270...one of the best ever...

[Tomanater]

me said quot: "if the dude had amazing genetics he wouldnt quit due to illness and wouldnt f**k himself up."

me meant quot: "IF HE HAD AMAZING GENETICS HE WOULD NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH COLITIS AND WOULD ALSO BE TOWERING AT 6'3" OVER YOU. HIS GENETICS SUCKED! YOU DONT KNOW WHY HE QUITED AND WHAT CONTRIBUTED TO THAT. I KNOW PERSONALY THE GANG IN OHIO AND HOW THEY OPERATE.

cry that i attack old mike

Now his genetics SUCKED ..Because he got sick..Whatever..So when you say genetics you mean genetics to tolerate the high amount of AS he was on and other things..I am referring to his Physique as most others are here.Mike had above average genetics ..PERIOD
No crying here just my opinion..

[gh15]

Height doesn't have  anything to do with good genetics in bodybuilding. Look at Shawn Ray, he's only 5'6". Gunter is 6'1" but his waist is too wide. Flex Wheeler had great genetics for building muscle and being symmetrical but he still had a hereditary kidney disease that was aggravated by steroids, diuretics and the contest diet. This is an unlucky fate. Having great genetics for bb and having hereditary organ problems are two separate issues.

Mike Francois had a great structure for bodybuilding, wide shoulders, small waist  was able to put on huge amounts of muscle without looking blocky. Not everyone can do that just because Milos is training them and they are on a good cycle.

BTW gh15, can you honestly look at all of these classic pictures of Francois and not be impressed? Who looks better today? NO ONE!

i gotta go training so ill answer now shortly then later on ill be answering the reruns . as always ill do it with my power point presentation

1)never did i say that old mike wasnt a very good bodybuilder. he sure as hell was!

2)i DID say that his genetics was average like many others among us. he did not DID NOT have ron colemans genetics nor arnold swartzie gen nor did he have the genetic of your local 6'1 cheq repulic guy in your local gym that doesnt touch gear and has 20 inch arms of bulk big bellied muscle by using amino acid pills from gnc. he had none of that.

3) what he did have was time to train and train correctly, time to eat, time and money to purchase the right goodies and ofcourse the will to be consistant.

4) there is no unlucky faith when it comes to genetics. superior is superior. ken wheeler kidny problem and old mike colitis problem and don long and prince and 100s other bodybuilders you will never hear about.....it is all due to mass use of hormones and harsh compounds involved with SHITTY GENETICS.
like in nature THE STRONGER SURVIVE- THE WEAKER IS GETTING EATEN AND DIE!

 shall be continued..but boys and gals do yourself a big big HUGE favor WIZZZE UP.

time for quads
later homos

[bailey]

Gh15 : Drug addict ? Less supervision ? OK arm chair quarterback.
First off, Go back to school and learn your grammar. Your posts are like reading Chinese. 2 : You win the award for the most stupid post ever. What a F***n Douche bag you are. You open your mouth and out comes dog poo. Don't post on this board If you don't know shit.
And you don't !!!

[alexxx]

2)i DID say that his genetics was average like many others among us. he did not DID NOT have ron colemans genetics nor arnold swartzie gen nor did he have the genetic of your local 6'1 cheq repulic guy in your local gym that doesnt touch gear and has 20 inch arms of bulk big bellied muscle by using amino acid pills from gnc. he had none of that.

I think I fall into this category. Now off to GNC to get aminos for my 20 inchers! 

[MindSpin]

I'm actually interested in GH15's thoughts.  Keep'm coming...

[Stavios]

Gh15 should have his own thread where people could asking him everything they want

[Royalty]

Mike Francios was at a local contest when he was in his prime...he admitted his favorite drugs were Anadrol and Deca.


If he competed at the 1998 ASC he would have placed very high! Top 2. Was huge when his colon got inflamed and had to drop out.

[Tomanater]

2)i DID say that his genetics was average like many others among us. he did not DID NOT have ron colemans genetics nor arnold swartzie gen nor did he have the genetic of your local 6'1 cheq repulic guy in your local gym that doesnt touch gear and has 20 inch arms of bulk big bellied muscle by using amino acid pills from gnc. he had none of that.

3) what he did have was time to train and train correctly, time to eat, time and money to purchase the right goodies and ofcourse the will to be consistant.

4) there is no unlucky faith when it comes to genetics. superior is superior. ken wheeler kidny problem and old mike colitis problem and don long and prince and 100s other bodybuilders you will never hear about.....it is all due to mass use of hormones and harsh compounds involved with SHITTY GENETICS.
like in nature THE STRONGER SURVIVE- THE WEAKER IS GETTING EATEN AND DIE!

 shall be continued..but boys and gals do yourself a big big HUGE favor WIZZZE UP.

time for quads
later homos

You say he did not have Ronnie Colemans and Arnolds genetics..No he did not..Those guys have superior genetics..The Cheq thing what the hell is that supposed to mean..Obviously you are from Cheq..I have been to Prauge and actually to tell ya the truth 70% of my friends are from the Cheq Republic.IFBB Pro -----  a good buddy of mine is from Cheq and he had some health problems.There are some big Cheq guys forshur yes they do grow them big. So this Cheq guy you speak of who is he??
But come on get off the SHITTY genetics thing..As far as his physique goes it is above average genetics.Big Mike was very complete and was a top pro when he was on..Take a look at his short carrer..It is impressive ..You can not deny that..
Peace D

[gh15]

Gh15 : Drug addict ? Less supervision ? OK arm chair quarterback.
First off, Go back to school and learn your grammar. Your posts are like reading Chinese. 2 : You win the award for the most stupid post ever. What a F***n Douche bag you are. You open your mouth and out comes dog poo. Don't post on this board If you don't know shit.
And you don't !!!

ok quads are cooked and im back to bailys board 

baily the diff between a real bodybuilder and a joke/kid is the diff between the  post you wrote and the post the moderator under you wrote!
with out looking at you 2 physiqes i bet 100 zambons that this modrator is either competetive bodybuilder or  has the physiqe of a bodybuilder while you dont. this is a personal feeling of mine.

now to the point ill try to make as many mistakes poSible so you need chinease dictionary while readin this

1) for the 100 time when i said he was drug addict i meant hormone addict (anabolics/androgens/gh etc) i am not aware of him takin any rec drugs! he might have but i am not aware of it) thats that.

2)less supervision ...um for the 100 time AGAIN i will say that during the late 80s and early/mid 90s there was a lot less supervision as in the FEDERAL GOVERMENT did not give a shit about mexico and the europian/american "sources" were fat as a pig. people didnt care and no one gave a shit during those times NOW THEY DO! mehico is no more and code red is all over the usa mexico border when it comes to hormones. so who gains from that?? you are right my friend ME! me and our europian friends are now 100 times busyier (how bout that spelling mistake huh? ) and 1000 time richer.

3)i find you to be a misguided soul thus i will post even more often on this board since i came to like it!

4)i feel like eating chineeze right now better call dex nothin like an orange chikaan and soem fun hong kong style rice noodles

IT'S NOT WHAT YOU EAT IT'S HOW YOU EAT IT!

[gh15]

You say he did not have Ronnie Colemans and Arnolds genetics..No he did not..Those guys have superior genetics..The Cheq thing what the hell is that supposed to mean..Obviously you are from Cheq..I have been to Prauge and actually to tell ya the truth 70% of my friends are from the Cheq Republic.IFBB Pro -----  a good buddy of mine is from Cheq and he had some health problems.There are some big Cheq guys forshur yes they do grow them big. So this Cheq guy you speak of who is he??
But come on get off the SHITTY genetics thing..As far as his physique goes it is above average genetics.Big Mike was very complete and was a top pro when he was on..Take a look at his short carrer..It is impressive ..You can not deny that..
Peace D

i never said his career was not impressive!! i also said he was a very good bodybuilder. no I AM NOT CHEQ! and the example of the cheq guy was in general to show you what good genetics is! a guy from russia or cheq republic that gets in the gym 6'1 20 inch arms and you think he is on the souce before he even started training seriously! ..maybe did some sdi:D and amino products and worked in the house on his bowflex...yet he looks like a freak and looks better than the junior national competitor that sit on hormones all day long!! thats what i meant

[alexxx]

i never said his career was not impressive!! i also said he was a very good bodybuilder. no I AM NOT CHEQ! and the example of the cheq guy was in general to show you what good genetics is! a guy from russia or cheq republic that gets in the gym 6'1 20 inch arms and you think he is on the souce before he even started training seriously! ..maybe did some sdi:D and amino products and worked in the house on his bowflex...yet he looks like a freak and looks better than the junior national competitor that sit on hormones all day long!! thats what i meant

cool thanks for the comps.

[hillbilly]

cool thanks for the comps.

Ha ha Alexxxxxxxx your back!!!!!

How was time out? i think we annoyed Ron so much he let u come back