Author Topic: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...  (Read 4674 times)

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Fortress believes in NO MERCY for violent offenders.

If you’re not gonna outright kill them, well, sentence them to an existence of daily struggle, torture and abject misery.

Destroy their family gravesites, yes.

To know true human garbage is to fully endorse the above.

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I have mixed feelings about this. This is a fate worse than death in my view and torture. And as I understand it, they haven't been to court and they are there indefinitely, they just rounded up everyone with gang tattoos. Sure they are scum, but still, each man should probably be afforded his day in court. I'm also against torture on principle, like the US tortured innocent people just to check if they had info. Experts say info from torture is not reliable either. It's just beneath civilized countries imo, even if I can understand a victim himself wanting to torture his perp. Someone said you can tell a countrie's level of civilization by it's treatment of prisoners and I believe that.
You are obviously a civilized man. In El Salvador gang life, tribal values rule. That is why they are treated like beasts. To send the message and probably because they dont know any better. Being civil to animals is perceived as weakness.

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Oft-repeated statement, yes.

Yes and no.

Oh, and …

It’s and its

Look into it.

Fuck, I hate spelling mistakes like that lol. Seriously, sometimes I wake up at night and realise I spelled something wrong on getbig and have to go edit  :D

I just think how easily I could make a mistake or wrong choice or even be wrongly convicted and end up in "federal rape your ass prison" (even though I'm in Europe with "hotel prisons") or be tortured by the government at a "black site" for some made up reason and these types of pain factories just feel wrong. Just kill them instead if need be.

You are obviously a civilized man. In El Salvador gang life, tribal values rule. That is why they are treated like beasts. To send the message and probably because they dont know any better. Being civil to animals is perceived as weakness.

Well it's kinda like the Duterte in the Filippines example I gave. His heavy handed methods drew a lot of criticism world wide but then many said he was just wonderful, just kill the worthless scum without wasting time with trials etc, if a bunch of innoocents are sacrificed at the same time, oh well, it's the price we should gladly pay. I think that's what the President in El Salvador said too, some innocents will be swept along too but it's ok, society benefits overall. I don't know, I think I prefer the more "civilized" western systems despite their faults. Especially when you know guys like Duterte are probably corrupt homicidal psychopaths themselves, who knows what crimes they have done. But I do see the counterarguments.

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Deportations to El Salvador are all over the news right now.


The armed guards make sure that the deportee’s do not raise their heads. The guards forcefully walk these prisoners in a bent over position.



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I was writing of Duterte, now he's in the The Hague... "what did I do?" he asks. His own country gave him up.

Deportations to El Salvador are all over the news right now.


The armed guards make sure that the deportee’s do not raise their heads. The guards forcefully walk these prisoners in a bent over position.

I saw the same in Russian prison documentaries. Plus barking murder dogs at their heels just in case.