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Re: Trump Goes HARD on Zelensky in front of Press
« Reply #50 on: March 01, 2025, 04:22:49 AM »
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Re: Trump Goes HARD on Zelensky in front of Press
« Reply #51 on: March 01, 2025, 05:11:34 AM »
Even if Zelensky personally want's to take the deal, can he? How will it look to Ukrainians? He will look weak and like a traitor having sold out his country. The Ukrainian nationalists said a long time ago that if he makes any deal giving up the country he will hang from a tree and many western analysts say the threat is real. Some western analysts are now saying Americans mining there and "securing peace just by their mere presence," like Trump said, is a fantasy, the Russians won't go along with that. Trump just said he can see UK and French peacekeeping forces there, but Lavrov said that is completely out of the question and he has reiterated it many times, which Trump very well knows they will not budge on. The Russians have given their non-negotials to agree with before any talks with Ukraine can even start, among them no foreign forces there and no negotiations with Zelensky period as in their view Zelensky legally is not the president, can't sign any deals. I don't think this ends anytime soon, Russia holds all the cards and will not agree to any ceasefires, it will have to be a permanent agreement, but I'm just a YT watcher  :D

how will it look to Ukrainian soldiers getting blown to bits every day, maybe they might want the war to end

If this clown Zelensky doesnt want to stop the war maybe he should go on the front line himself, hes already dressed for it.

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Re: Trump Goes HARD on Zelensky in front of Press
« Reply #52 on: March 01, 2025, 06:04:11 AM »
He's been consistent in never wearing a suit though. I can see his point in not dressing up being his country is in a seriously bad situation.

That makes it worse, he’s been acting like he’s some kind of military operator this whole time.

Zelenskyy is in way over his head, he thought the West was genuinely interested in helping Ukraine.  Little did he know, he and his countrymen were just used as pawns to weaken Russia.  Much like Osama bin Laden in the 80s, and we all know how that went.


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Re: Trump Goes HARD on Zelensky in front of Press
« Reply #53 on: March 01, 2025, 07:47:04 AM »
Even if Zelensky personally want's to take the deal, can he? How will it look to Ukrainians? He will look weak and like a traitor having sold out his country. The Ukrainian nationalists said a long time ago that if he makes any deal giving up the country he will hang from a tree and many western analysts say the threat is real. Some western analysts are now saying Americans mining there and "securing peace just by their mere presence," like Trump said, is a fantasy, the Russians won't go along with that. Trump just said he can see UK and French peacekeeping forces there, but Lavrov said that is completely out of the question and he has reiterated it many times, which Trump very well knows they will not budge on. The Russians have given their non-negotials to agree with before any talks with Ukraine can even start, among them no foreign forces there and no negotiations with Zelensky period as in their view Zelensky legally is not the president, can't sign any deals. I don't think this ends anytime soon, Russia holds all the cards and will not agree to any ceasefires, it will have to be a permanent agreement, but I'm just a YT watcher  :D
Ukraine will never "win" this conflict without the US intervention. If we cut off all funding and support, their entire county falls.

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Re: Trump Goes HARD on Zelensky in front of Press
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Re: Trump Goes HARD on Zelensky in front of Press
« Reply #55 on: March 01, 2025, 09:26:43 AM »
Without the American taxpayer Zelensky would be nowhere. If he would have treated the French or Chinese presidents that way he would be in trouble.
No respect, no gratitude, no common sense. 

He should be replaced asap.

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Re: Trump Goes HARD on Zelensky in front of Press
« Reply #56 on: March 01, 2025, 11:34:07 AM »
Even if Zelensky personally want's to take the deal, can he? How will it look to Ukrainians? He will look weak and like a traitor having sold out his country. The Ukrainian nationalists said a long time ago that if he makes any deal giving up the country he will hang from a tree and many western analysts say the threat is real. Some western analysts are now saying Americans mining there and "securing peace just by their mere presence," like Trump said, is a fantasy, the Russians won't go along with that. Trump just said he can see UK and French peacekeeping forces there, but Lavrov said that is completely out of the question and he has reiterated it many times, which Trump very well knows they will not budge on. The Russians have given their non-negotials to agree with before any talks with Ukraine can even start, among them no foreign forces there and no negotiations with Zelensky period as in their view Zelensky legally is not the president, can't sign any deals. I don't think this ends anytime soon, Russia holds all the cards and will not agree to any ceasefires, it will have to be a permanent agreement, but I'm just a YT watcher  :D
I don't see why Americans have to hand out money to whoever. Specially when 38% of the 350 trillions? Have disappeared out of thin air.
Trump just said that if you want more, pay us back in minerals. Seems fair to me.

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Re: Trump Goes HARD on Zelensky in front of Press
« Reply #57 on: March 01, 2025, 12:13:58 PM »
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Re: Trump Goes HARD on Zelensky in front of Press
« Reply #58 on: March 01, 2025, 12:24:00 PM »
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Re: Trump Goes HARD on Zelensky in front of Press
« Reply #59 on: March 01, 2025, 01:57:03 PM »
Ok so I w ent back and watched the part where it went off the rails. JD Vance talks about President Trump and his diplomacy to which Zelenskyy says “what diplomacy, JD, are you talking about?”  guy it’s bad enough you show up looking like a slob, but to refer to the VP by his initials instead of addressing him with the respect he deserves, fuck that. VP referred to him as President so that level of respect should be reciprocated. I don’t like it happened in front of cameras, but that little dude needed a reality check.

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Re: Trump Goes HARD on Zelensky in front of Press
« Reply #60 on: March 01, 2025, 02:15:26 PM »
I don’t like it happened in front of cameras, but that little dude needed a reality check.
I'm the opposite. I appreciate the fact that everyone got to see some raw, unedited, unmanipulated exchanges instead of the washed down post game where each side can pull the he said/she said shit. It showed Americans that Trump and Vance aren't interested in taking anyones shit and will demand respect.
I would bet these exchanges happen all the time behind closed doors, this time just happened to be public. I wouldn't want to see every meeting public like this, but I appreciate this exposure this time.
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Re: Trump Goes HARD on Zelensky in front of Press
« Reply #61 on: March 01, 2025, 04:22:42 PM »
I'm the opposite. I appreciate the fact that everyone got to see some raw, unedited, unmanipulated exchanges instead of the washed down post game where each side can pull the he said/she said shit. It showed Americans that Trump and Vance aren't interested in taking anyones shit and will demand respect.
I would bet these exchanges happen all the time behind closed doors, this time just happened to be public. I wouldn't want to see every meeting public like this, but I appreciate this exposure this time.

 I wonder, was this exchange made for tv, and they will hammer something out in the days to come? Or did Zekensky really get the “coming to jesus” talk by trump

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Re: Trump Goes HARD on Zelensky in front of Press
« Reply #62 on: March 01, 2025, 04:28:13 PM »
There's a Twitter rumor going around the political blogs that Zelensky was getting advice on how to handle Trump from former Biden and Obama advisors, and well, this is how it worked out.

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Re: Trump Goes HARD on Zelensky in front of Press
« Reply #63 on: March 01, 2025, 04:36:10 PM »
There's a Twitter rumor going around the political blogs that Zelensky was getting advice on how to handle Trump from former Biden and Obama advisors, and well, this is how it worked out.

I saw that too. Vindman, Susan Rice, Victoria Nuland and Blinkin

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Re: Trump Goes HARD on Zelensky in front of Press
« Reply #64 on: March 01, 2025, 05:12:00 PM »
WTF was zelensky thinking? There's a new sheriff in town,as they say, was ANYONE expecting this to be anthing short of an ambush (and deservedly so). The cynic in me would stop just short of saying 'so its no good payiung the country back that you want heklp from but it's ok doing under the table deals with friends and family of the previous administration whom hate and fleece their own country whilst banging on about righteousness?'

There's footage of him playing the piano with his dick ffs, he's a puppet leader to oligarchs.

maybe thuis is a prelude to him being deposed and replaced and the new broom can sweep clean. Frankly speaking, rightly or wrongly, a fucken battery hen would have a better chance of getting some sort of peace brokered with Putin. And don't think for a second I'm singing Putin's praises as such, but logistically this is a poodle barking behind a fence at an outraged pitbul the minute the west pulls out.

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Re: Trump Goes HARD on Zelensky in front of Press
« Reply #65 on: March 01, 2025, 05:20:17 PM »
Without an act of congress the U.S cannot go to war.
The caveat to that is the United States Marine Corps that can be deployed worldwide for up to 30 days. Enough time to destroy most nations without an act of war from congress.
Let's go back to WW2. even with a declaration of war via the president and passed via congress. The government had to "ask" the American people for money to fund the war. This was done with war bond bond drives, that paraded through towns with the latest war hero and celebrity sitting in jeeps or on an open convertible.
Americans need to demand for this method again. American should have more power in deciding whether or not we are to fund another countries war effort.
America needs to stop global babystitting/colonization  practices.
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Re: Trump Goes HARD on Zelensky in front of Press
« Reply #67 on: March 01, 2025, 06:14:44 PM »
This is what Zelensky saw today….

Zelensky also saw Trump rudely pointing is finger at him yesterday.






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Re: Trump Goes HARD on Zelensky in front of Press
« Reply #68 on: March 01, 2025, 06:22:24 PM »
Zelensky also saw Trump rudely pointing is finger at him yesterday.







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Re: Trump Goes HARD on Zelensky in front of Press
« Reply #69 on: March 01, 2025, 07:12:52 PM »
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Re: Trump Goes HARD on Zelensky in front of Press
« Reply #70 on: March 01, 2025, 07:15:42 PM »
They need to remove his gay ass.

I wish so bad that someone l(I can understand why Trump or Vance couldn’t) would ask Zelenskyy right in the middle of a press event “if you are so fckn concerned with the people of Ukraine - WHY would you buy a multimillion dollar mansion AND a yacht right now in this time of war??? And how con much does it pay to be president of Ukraine?     

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Re: Trump Goes HARD on Zelensky in front of Press
« Reply #71 on: March 01, 2025, 10:45:18 PM »
Problem with giving in to Russia is also that Putin is showing to be imperialistic. His ideal seems to be expand Russia(Soviet as he sees it). He's one of these leaders that wants to make an imprint in history.
So if he takes Ukraine. What's next? Poland? Then the Baltics, then what's next Finland?

If you happen to take the time to watch this, or anyone else here, please let me know. Jeffrey Sachs just gave a speech at EU parliament.I've watched a lot of this guy for a couple of years and to me he cuts a sympathetic figure. He dismisses your concerns re Putin. The speech is about 50 minutes but very worth it in my opinion. As always I can't say he is correct on everything but a lot has the ring of truth. He blames the Ukraine war on the US (and NATO which is basically the US), he talks about the NATO enchroachment, the cynical broken promises of the US/NATO (which were never meant to be kept), how old project NATO/Ukraine is, how Netanyahu is to blame for much.

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I don't see why Americans have to hand out money to whoever. Specially when 38% of the 350 trillions? Have disappeared out of thin air.
Trump just said that if you want more, pay us back in minerals. Seems fair to me.

Sure. However, if one buys Sachs' thesis above, the US planned and fomented this war in the first place. Along with the UK and Boris Johnson of course. He says Obama refused to arm the Ukraine, but Trump did way back. Now Trump wants out seeing the realities on the ground; my brother just insisted on again showing me Telegram vids of the gore there, absolutely horrible. Trump want's to stop the slaughter as fast as possible. That's all well and good, all I was wondering about is how Zelensky is suppossed to, and expected to act now. Like I said before, many analysts think Z will probably be killed, likely by his own, especially if he makes concessions with the US/Russia. Many Ukranians applaud Z after the White House dressing down, the soldiers say better to die on your feet than live on your knees.


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Re: Trump Goes HARD on Zelensky in front of Press
« Reply #72 on: March 01, 2025, 10:58:19 PM »
If you happen to take the time to watch this, or anyone else here, please let me know. Jeffrey Sachs just gave a speech at EU parliament.I've watched a lot of this guy for a couple of years and to me he cuts a sympathetic figure. He dismisses your concerns re Putin. The speech is about 50 minutes but very worth it in my opinion. As always I can't say he is correct on everything but a lot has the ring of truth. He blames the Ukraine war on the US (and NATO which is basically the US), he talks about the NATO enchroachment, the cynical broken promises of the US/NATO (which were never meant to be kept), how old project NATO/Ukraine is, how Netanyahu is to blame for much.

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Watched this earlier today. Interesting

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Re: Trump Goes HARD on Zelensky in front of Press
« Reply #73 on: March 01, 2025, 11:05:07 PM »
So if he takes Ukraine. What's next? Poland? Then the Baltics, then what's next Finland?

There is already more than 200.000 russian soldiers occupied in eastern Finland.

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Re: Trump Goes HARD on Zelensky in front of Press
« Reply #74 on: March 01, 2025, 11:14:17 PM »
Watched this earlier today. Interesting

He is from the left but says Trump is on the right track here, he predicts Russia and Trump will settle this and should. He is for always talking to your adversaries and for peace but US policy has been to destroy Russia for so long. Trump is for reestablishing diplomatic ties, restoring US/Russian embassies. Trump said Putin endured much with the Russia gate hoax  :D  8)