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Re: 4 worst drinks for heart health
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2025, 05:39:21 AM »
maybe not baloney, old friend of mine drank some energy drinks in Thailand and woke up having lost a whole day, couldnt remember a thing

May have been spiked but he swears it was the energy drinks

Remember me posting about that energy drink I had over there last November?  Only one place in the city sold it.  When I was at Muscle Factory that day, the girl there recognized it and instantly knew where it was from and the old lady that owned the store.  (then gave me another location to buy US made steroids at)  But it WORKED!  Once you got over the initial heart palpitations,  it was good to go.

I actually took the empty bottle back to my hotel room.  It had 5 other languages on the label, but the only English was the name.  I was going to use an image to text app to read the label and see what it said and what was in it.  But after leaving for the day for my assignment duties, I came back and the hotel maid had cleaned up the room.  Seeing the bottle was empty, she tossed it.

But I wonder if it was something like a concentrated mix.  Maybe 5 servings per bottle.  Like I was supposed to dilute it with other liquids first.  That sounds the most logical. Seeing how it came in a bottle you could reseal as opposed to a can you only opened once.  When I go back this fall, I am going to buy a case.   :D

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Re: 4 worst drinks for heart health
« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2025, 05:44:35 AM »
Here is the original post about that energy drink :


The energy drink she gave us…..  it had :

Ener-Gee
Ionized

On the label and about 5 other languages that I couldn’t read.  Probably warning labels.  I woke up and headed to Muscle Factory to work out.  One of top 3 hardcore gyms inhave ever been too.

Now mind you, it is two stops away and a five minute walk.  So I started drinking this energy drink when I walked out of the hotel.  It tasted like original (red) Hawaiian Punch mixed 50/50 with original (brown) Listerine.  By the time I got off the train about 15 mins later I thought my eyeballs were going to crack.  This shit was like meth, rocket fuel and battery acid all at once.  It hit harder than Provigil if you could condense its all day long effect into 45 mins. 

I walked in and the girl behind the desk pointed at it and said “ah you go to see *pharmacy owner name*”.  I was like yeah how did you know.  She said that that pharm was the only place in town that carries that energy drink.  You can’t get it anywhere else.  Then she said “you buy that there but if looking for other stuff then you go here to this place.  It much more what American brand”. Address was on a card.

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Re: 4 worst drinks for heart health
« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2025, 01:49:44 PM »
I don't think the Thai Redbull type energy drinks were ever spiked, not from the factory. Thailand is also very strict with amphetamine type drugs, I believe even ephedrine is highly restricted. It's possible some commercial supplements are available with designer stimulants not on the label but I believe serious actors wouldn't mess with banned drugs there. You can get "high" off a megadose of caffeine and feel very alert with heart palpitations but the euphoria isn't there. What likely happened a lot with Redbull here and probably there, is people were drinking vodka Redbulls and ended up in the hospital with alcohol poisoning. Redbull would have been banned here if there was anything dangerous with it, considering how anal they are with everything. They tried to blame taurine but that wasn't it, it's healthy and somewhat smooths out the caffeine as taurine is a bit GABA-like, inhibitory. Theanine is similar and can be used to advantage with caffeine. Theanine and Taurine aren't exactly depressive, they are inhibitory on the CNS, but they relax you while improving concentration and "energy" despite the inhibition. I've always said on here what a dirty stim I feel caffeine is, I just feel like shit megadosing it, and doubly worse when drunk. Now amphetamines are another matter and can go well with alcohol, although there is an increased risk of alcohol poisoning.

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Re: 4 worst drinks for heart health
« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2025, 01:57:56 PM »
I don't think the Thai Redbull type energy drinks were ever spiked, not from the factory. Thailand is also very strict with amphetamine type drugs, I believe even ephedrine is highly restricted. It's possible some commercial supplements are available with designer stimulants not on the label but I believe serious actors wouldn't mess with banned drugs there. You can get "high" off a megadose of caffeine and feel very alert with heart palpitations but the euphoria isn't there. What likely happened a lot with Redbull here and probably there, is people were drinking vodka Redbulls and ended up in the hospital with alcohol poisoning. Redbull would have been banned here if there was anything dangerous with it, considering how anal they are with everything. They tried to blame taurine but that wasn't it, it's healthy and somewhat smooths out the caffeine as taurine is a bit GABA-like, inhibitory. Theanine is similar and can be used to advantage with caffeine. Theanine and Taurine aren't exactly depressive, they are inhibitory on the CNS, but they relax you while improving concentration and "energy" despite the inhibition. I've always said on here what a dirty stim I feel caffeine is, I just feel like shit megadosing it, and doubly worse when drunk. Now amphetamines are another matter and can go well with alcohol, although there is an increased risk of alcohol poisoning.

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Re: 4 worst drinks for heart health
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2025, 03:19:01 PM »
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All my friends have been to Thailand several times, my brother and so on, I haven't... I'm not hot for the real Thai ladies, nevermind the ladyboys ;D

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Re: 4 worst drinks for heart health
« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2025, 04:35:10 PM »
I think last month or Feb (it was recently) this IG fitness "influencer" (  ::) ) who was a 20 something year old girl that was really into clean living, clean eating, etc...  dropped dead because she was having multiple energy drinks and stims per day. 

I remember the story that Steve Austin told about how he was rushed to the hospital on the day of Wrestlemania when he was headlining it with a match against the Rock.  They thought he has having a heart attack until he told them he was having 4-5 energy drinks and two pots of strong coffee every day for over a year.  He said he had to sneak out and actually got to the arena after the show had started and VKM was freaking out all over the place.

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Re: 4 worst drinks for heart health
« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2025, 01:25:28 AM »
I think last month or Feb (it was recently) this IG fitness "influencer" (  ::) ) who was a 20 something year old girl that was really into clean living, clean eating, etc...  dropped dead because she was having multiple energy drinks and stims per day. 

I remember the story that Steve Austin told about how he was rushed to the hospital on the day of Wrestlemania when he was headlining it with a match against the Rock.  They thought he has having a heart attack until he told them he was having 4-5 energy drinks and two pots of strong coffee every day for over a year.  He said he had to sneak out and actually got to the arena after the show had started and VKM was freaking out all over the place.

Sounds like an anxiety attack but I don't know what they diagnosed him with. I felt I was close to death, physically and mentally, a few times at 14 years old when I stupidly ODd on caffeine. At the same time when someone arrives in the ER they may not tell the whole story, such as mentioning whatever illegal they may have taken. Decades ago a friend went into the ER and they blamed his problems on the Redbull he had but there was more. Some could legitimately be dying but have their wits about them enough to, or not depending on how you look at it, not disclose anything illegal. You admit something bad and you are a marked man when seeking care for anything else later, at least that's how it is here, you could be labeled a drug seeker for example when that may not be true. So you don't want that stuff on your record. I mentioned something bad to a doc a few months ago and it created a huge mess and I bitterly regret it, I'm dealing with the issues right now. I'd love to be honest with docs about everything, like PEDs, but it's not always a good idea.

Rich Piana said he was drinking many Monsters on the way to the gym, he was supposedly snorting preworkout (caffeine basically), and hey, he might have drank abusive amounts of caffeine, although I felt the PWO snorting was BS for views, who the hell puts beta-alanine up his nose lol, but he was doing lots of illegal drugs too 8)

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Re: 4 worst drinks for heart health
« Reply #32 on: April 06, 2025, 01:33:55 AM »
I don't think the Thai Redbull type energy drinks were ever spiked, not from the factory. Thailand is also very strict with amphetamine type drugs, I believe even ephedrine is highly restricted. It's possible some commercial supplements are available with designer stimulants not on the label but I believe serious actors wouldn't mess with banned drugs there. You can get "high" off a megadose of caffeine and feel very alert with heart palpitations but the euphoria isn't there. What likely happened a lot with Redbull here and probably there, is people were drinking vodka Redbulls and ended up in the hospital with alcohol poisoning. Redbull would have been banned here if there was anything dangerous with it, considering how anal they are with everything. They tried to blame taurine but that wasn't it, it's healthy and somewhat smooths out the caffeine as taurine is a bit GABA-like, inhibitory. Theanine is similar and can be used to advantage with caffeine. Theanine and Taurine aren't exactly depressive, they are inhibitory on the CNS, but they relax you while improving concentration and "energy" despite the inhibition. I've always said on here what a dirty stim I feel caffeine is, I just feel like shit megadosing it, and doubly worse when drunk. Now amphetamines are another matter and can go well with alcohol, although there is an increased risk of alcohol poisoning.

Can't even get pseudo-ephedrine from a pharmacy in Thailand, have to get it from a hospital where it is prescribed by a specialist, a GP can't prescribe it.

Another drug treated similarly is codeine but you can buy tramadol over the counter.

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Re: 4 worst drinks for heart health
« Reply #33 on: April 06, 2025, 01:57:43 AM »
I know Redbull and Vodka was a very popular drink in bars and clubs here, still is. Probably the most popular drink. I was never a big bar or club person but that's what I would order when out, other than a beer.
When I was a younger I drunk bacardi & cola , last time I drunk it was nearly 29 years ago on my birthday..but I was always more of a beer drinker just had a couple of shorts when full of beer 🍺 😅

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Re: 4 worst drinks for heart health
« Reply #34 on: April 06, 2025, 02:12:34 AM »
Can't even get pseudo-ephedrine from a pharmacy in Thailand, have to get it from a hospital where it is prescribed by a specialist, a GP can't prescribe it.

Another drug treated similarly is codeine but you can buy tramadol over the counter.

Yeah, that's what I figured considering their yaba problem. I'm maybe a bit surprised about the tramadol. In certain countries, like I believe in north africa, it's almost a death penalty to be caught with it because it became a problem with workers. Personally I think it's a wonderful rec drug, but (blank) denies it being an opiate and claims it does nothing  :D. ESFitness went on heroin when he got off tram as you know. I would guess tram might be, or will become, a problem with manual workers in Thailand like it has elsewhere. Here in Sweden when they started testing for it a couple of years ago, in some factories the whole factory tested positive and they couldn't let everyone go at the same time or production would have ground to a halt :D It's somewhat stimulating and doesn't make you nod so it goes great with boring physical work. Sweden seems to have a huge problem with that drug in particular and they regularly find millions of pills coming from abroad, drug trends differ by locality. It wasn't a class drug for decades, wasn't considered addictive, no one wanted it. Codeine is a way inferior and weaker drug imo.

When I was a younger I drunk bacardi & cola , last time I drunk it was nearly 29 years ago on my birthday..but I was always more of a beer drinker just had a couple of shorts when full of beer 🍺 😅

Yeah, Jack and Coke was also something I might order decades ago. I too have hardly drank in decades although I should have the "gene," but it never became a thing for me for some reason. I bet the popularity of Vodka Redbull is a considerable part of Redbull's revenue these days, though I don't know if it's as popular in the US for example as it is here. They do go well together taste wise imo.

EDIT. Google says it's one of the most popular drinks, especially in the US after it was "invented" in the UK. And,

"Despite the ubiquity of the Red Bull Vodka, the Red Bull brand has been reluctant to outwardly celebrate the use of the drink as a mixer."

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Re: 4 worst drinks for heart health
« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2025, 04:10:17 AM »
I`m sitting home one day in Springfield Mass. when some idiot from the gym that I barely knew knocks wildly on my door.............I let him in and he`s freaking out telling me that he took a shitload of Hydroxycut and was having heart palpitations and panic attacks.

I told him to go to the ER.................fucki ng idiot,what did he want me to do?

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Re: 4 worst drinks for heart health
« Reply #36 on: April 06, 2025, 04:13:05 AM »
I`m sitting home one day in Springfield Mass. when some idiot from the gym that I barely knew knocks wildly on my door.............I let him in and he`s freaking out telling me that he took a shitload of Hydroxycut and was having heart palpitations and panic attacks.

I told him to go to the ER.................fucking idiot,what did he want me to do?

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Re: 4 worst drinks for heart health
« Reply #37 on: April 06, 2025, 04:16:39 AM »
I`m sitting home one day in Springfield Mass. when some idiot from the gym that I barely knew knocks wildly on my door.............I let him in and he`s freaking out telling me that he took a shitload of Hydroxycut and was having heart palpitations and panic attacks.

I told him to go to the ER.................fucki ng idiot,what did he want me to do?


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Re: 4 worst drinks for heart health
« Reply #38 on: April 06, 2025, 04:23:57 AM »
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