Equal pay for womens sports - Game 5 of the WNBA Finals

[joswift]

https://theworldwatch.com/videos/1629169/lmao-game-5-of-the-wnba-finals-i-can-t-believe-what-i-just-watched-anything-a-man-can-do/

[GymnJuice]

This is all Trump's fault. If he'd let the trannies play they'd have fewer airballs.

 

[Lartinos]

That’s just good defense.
 

[tacobender]

Women have gotten way out of control they need to focus on keeping their kneepads on and making sure my dinner is hot

[IroNat]

They need to make the ball even smaller.

Seriously, they play with a smaller ball already but it's still too big for their hands.

[Rambone]

I personally support taxpayer-funded subsidies to offset the massive differences in revenue. The future is female!

[hench]

Pay is relative to the income the sport generates, no woman's sport has near the viewership, sponsors, merchandise sales etc. Totally deluded to think they are anywhere near on the same level.

[Moontrane]

Pay is relative to the income the sport generates, no woman's sport has near the viewership, sponsors, merchandise sales etc. Totally deluded to think they are anywhere near on the same level.

I think that the one exception is female gymnastics.  Maybe figure skating, too. 

US Pro Female soccer team was beaten by a boys 15 and under team.   

[Irongrip400]

I think that the one exception is female gymnastics.  Maybe figure skating, too. 

US Pro Female soccer team was beaten by a boys 15 and under team.   

I think I’d say that women’s soccer is more popular than men’s. I couldn’t name one dude but probably a few women. Not sure if they’re still playing or not but a few years ago or whenever they won the World Cup and that purple haired dyke was everywhere I knew her and Hope Solo and her nasty brown butthole.

[1Patrick]

I think I’d say that women’s soccer is more popular than men’s. I couldn’t name one dude but probably a few women. Not sure if they’re still playing or not but a few years ago or whenever they won the World Cup and that purple haired dyke was everywhere I knew her and Hope Solo and her nasty brown butthole.

In US yes ,but nationwide men’s soccer is biggest thing period.No one overseas cares about  baseball or NFL .
Messi’s arrival to Miami tripled  ticket prices and were sold out.Miami went from last place to first in their division .Lionel is freak

[Sandrock]

If they made the WNBA nothing but white women ratings would double

[Zillotch]

If they made the WNBA nothing but white women ratings would double

yes.

if female sports consisted of highly attractive, beautifully shaped - white women, specifically.. the world would watch.

[Lartinos]

yes.

if female sports consisted of highly attractive, beautifully shaped - white women, specifically.. the world would watch.

Hence woman’s tennis being the #1 woman’s sport.

[Sandrock]

White women can't jump and nobody gives a shit 

[Griffith]

In motor racing the FIA created the 'F1 Academy' specially for women.

Men race in F3 and F2 before going into Formula One.

This F1 Academy is supposed to help them get into F1, but is less powerful than the above categories and would be equivalent to F4.

There's debate whether their necks and bodies could successfully handle the forces of an F1 car for the full duration of a race.

[falco]

Not even women go watch women sports, hence no sponsors, no revenue, no money. In soccer, women have the physical ability of a 14 yo kid. There are studies of that.

[Van_Bilderass]

Pay is relative to the income the sport generates, no woman's sport has near the viewership, sponsors, merchandise sales etc.

But that's not FAIR!

[IroNat]

A women's Lingerie B-ball League would garner some views and dribbles.

[Griffith]

Breathing to handle high-G corners and this is what a trained male athlete sounds like.

[38 returns]

In motor racing the FIA created the 'F1 Academy' specially for women.

Men race in F3 and F2 before going into Formula One.

This F1 Academy is supposed to help them get into F1, but is less powerful than the above categories and would be equivalent to F4.

There's debate whether their necks and bodies could successfully handle the forces of an F1 car for the full duration of a race.

plus they'd be checking their make up and phoning their mates

[joswift]

plus they'd be checking their make up and phoning their mates

putting make up on during the first lap

[snx]

The WNBA has a union. That union should do more for its card carrying dues-paying members, if there's a reason to act. That's my first thought on the matter.

Secondly, there are two popular models to pay athletes in a league where it's essentially a bunch of operating franchises (teams) owned by independent groups, who come together as a collective under a unifying banner (and try to walk the tightrope of collusion and profit).

The salary cap model (see: NHL, NFL, etc...): union barters for a certain percentage of league-wide revenue projections (the budget) and teams are forced to commit at least a certain percentage of that salary cap value to pay all players on their team, with no allowances to pay more. Upside: parity amongst teams and competitiveness. Downside: if unions are weak, downward pressures on payouts as a percent of league revenues (or off-shoot revenues from gambling that are hard to pin down) can leave players underpaid.

The luxury tax type of model (see: NBA, MLB, etc...): there's a soft cap, with teams permitted to pay more for players (the carrot: big city/big market attracts big players who play for big money to attract big TV and big gambling), but at the expense of having to return money to other franchises in the form of a luxury tax. Upside: small market teams can take the funds to try to remain competitive and invest in alternative ways to win/earn profit that flank the large franchises guerilla-warfare-style. Downside: incentive to just stop caring about fielding a competitive team, take financial losses, earn the luxury tax, and use the team as a write-off on capital gains with other companies in your portfolio. (the townsfolk get unhappy, etc...)


If WNBA players are paid an unequal percentage of league revenues versus men, then I'd say there's a case there to argue for the union.

But if we're arguing dollar for dollar, then WNBA league-wide revenues would have to approach NBA revenues. That's tough one; the NBA has been around far longer, has enjoyed long-standing TV contracts that perpetuate to some extent, and has a richer history in gambling than the WNBA. Some of that simply takes time, if the product is compelling enough to draw the attention of the mouth breathing masses. Who's to say it will or won't? There's never been any accounting for taste in product marketing, last time I checked (unless you ask marketers...and they'll tell you they know)! LOL!

[joswift]

The WNBA has a union. That union should do more for its card carrying dues-paying members, if there's a reason to act. That's my first thought on the matter.

Secondly, there are two popular models to pay athletes in a league where it's essentially a bunch of operating franchises (teams) owned by independent groups, who come together as a collective under a unifying banner (and try to walk the tightrope of collusion and profit).

The salary cap model (see: NHL, NFL, etc...): union barters for a certain percentage of league-wide revenue projections (the budget) and teams are forced to commit at least a certain percentage of that salary cap value to pay all players on their team, with no allowances to pay more. Upside: parity amongst teams and competitiveness. Downside: if unions are weak, downward pressures on payouts as a percent of league revenues (or off-shoot revenues from gambling that are hard to pin down) can leave players underpaid.

The luxury tax type of model (see: NBA, MLB, etc...): there's a soft cap, with teams permitted to pay more for players (the carrot: big city/big market attracts big players who play for big money to attract big TV and big gambling), but at the expense of having to return money to other franchises in the form of a luxury tax. Upside: small market teams can take the funds to try to remain competitive and invest in alternative ways to win/earn profit that flank the large franchises guerilla-warfare-style. Downside: incentive to just stop caring about fielding a competitive team, take financial losses, earn the luxury tax, and use the team as a write-off on capital gains with other companies in your portfolio. (the townsfolk get unhappy, etc...)


If WNBA players are paid an unequal percentage of league revenues versus men, then I'd say there's a case there to argue for the union.

But if we're arguing dollar for dollar, then WNBA league-wide revenues would have to approach NBA revenues. That's tough one; the NBA has been around far longer, has enjoyed long-standing TV contracts that perpetuate to some extent, and has a richer history in gambling than the WNBA. Some of that simply takes time, if the product is compelling enough to draw the attention of the mouth breathing masses. Who's to say it will or won't? There's never been any accounting for taste in product marketing, last time I checked (unless you ask marketers...and they'll tell you they know)! LOL!

should have been your last TLDNR

[Beefjake]

There's debate whether their ( women ) necks and bodies could successfully handle the forces of an F1 car for the full duration of a race.

Of course they could if they started as young as most who succeed have.

Woman in F1 would be marketing gold!

But she’d have to be fast enough first…

[King Shizzo]

I think it's mostly the internet, rumor mill machine etc... that fuel these outlandish claims. Aside from the Women's soccer team (I'll give them credit that they are better than thier male counterparts) and a few dumb WNBA bimbos, no reasonably sane, self-respecting woman, would honestly believe this nonsense. Sports salaries are unlike any other profession. They are purely popularity driven, meaning you can't justify a huge salary, when the math isn't mathing.

Now, if I were these Women's agents/representatives, I would obviously tell them that they aren't going to make the bulk of their income playing sports. However, if they are marketable, they can use that as a vehicle for endorsements, exposure etc...

Most sensible women stay in thier lane on this issue, because they know it's simply not feasible.