CBum downsized like a MoFo !!

[affeman]

Looks like the guy has dropped like 50 pds of muscle already, looks like an average gymrat next to the Miraclebear

[Raymondo]

Looks like the guy has dropped like 50 pds of muscle already, looks like an average gymrat next to the Miraclebear

Someone tell him to take it easy with the beard dye

[LurkerNoMore]

"I'll be good and goddamn if I ever call another grown ass man 'Miraclebear' " - Wes

Now just why is this man called Miraclebear?

[Brenda Steunbeer]

"Miraclebear". You could not come up with a more gay name if you tried hahaha

[Dave D]

Looks like the guy has dropped like 50 pds of muscle already, looks like an average gymrat next to the Miraclebear

Dang….. legs still look good.

Hope you’re doing okay bro.

[BigRo]

He has a shoulder issue and can't train his upper body.

[Rambone]

He must’ve performed some amazing miracles for the bear community to earn that nickname

[BB]

He must’ve performed some amazing miracles for the bear community to earn that nickname

I'm hearing of something called the "double bear paw honey hole lick". I have no idea what that is, but it sounds exotic.

[Van_Bilderass]

What a twink, worthless

[robcguns]

Miracle bear sucks and that’s the stupidest name I’ve ever heard.

[joswift]

pro bodybuilding is LITERALLY all drugs

[Van_Bilderass]

pro bodybuilding is LITERALLY all drugs

All GENETICS!

[joswift]

All GENETICS!

Genetic response to drugs and tolerance to sides.

[Zillotch]

Genetic response to drugs and tolerance to sides.

response, and then structure… that's the game.

the entire ‘sport/industry' is a grifting lie.. like most things on earth.

[BigRo]

hard work, dedication, sacrifice, pushing limits, going hungry its not literally all drugs.

[joswift]

hard work, dedication, sacrifice, pushing limits, going hungry its not literally all drugs.

oh it really is, all those things are minor parts of the whole.
pro bodybuilding is 90% drugs

You can train as hard as you can , eat well, make sacrifices but without the drugs its not happening.
I have been doing it over 40 years, I know from experience what it takes

Just look at how the pros deflate once they retire, well, the ones that stop juicing that is.

I remember how you shrank a few years back when you stopped, soon came back though, its because of the drugs, its not just an extra half dozen eggs and some deadlifts.

[BigRo]

Just because they deflate it does not mean therefore it was "all drugs" surely your wiser than that.

[Van_Bilderass]

You need a bunch of things but without the genetics the drugs don't matter much either. You could even have a great drug response but if the structure isn't there, the long bellies aren't there, the number of fibers are few and the wrong type, you're going nowhere quick, no matter what. But it's hard to put percentages on all of the factors. Also, as Mentzer used to say, you can only properly judge the genetics in retrospect, gotta try and see, though some things you can see even in an untrained body, such as skeletal structure and muscle bellies, to a degree. One thing is for sure, you could probably bring someone to pro level in 1.5-2 years if everything is done perfectly from the start, assuming the genetics allow it. It's fast. Guys cycled and wasted lots of time in the past, and experimenting by themselves.

[JustPlaneJane]

"Miraclebear". You could not come up with a more gay name if you tried hahaha

<cough> Primemuscle….<cough>

[SF1900]

Just because they deflate it does not mean therefore it was "all drugs" surely your wiser than that.

Of course it’s mainly drugs. All the will and hard work and sacrifice won’t get anyone looking like an IFBB pro without drugs. However, with a great genetics response to drugs, one can look massive with little hard hard work and minimal dedication.

[Mayday]

Genetic response to drugs and tolerance to sides.

Also military tactics for going to war in the gym and when wearing undies next to other men.

[BigRo]

Of course it’s mainly drugs. All the will and hard work and sacrifice won’t get anyone looking like an IFBB pro without drugs. However, with a great genetics response to drugs, one can look massive with little hard hard work and minimal dedication.

Without the grind all the drugs gonna do nothing. "Look" how about BE a champion and let it shine through your body.

[joswift]

Without the grind all the drugs gonna do nothing. "Look" how about BE a champion and let it shine through your body.

Dorian lived the lifestyle
Cormier lived a hedonistic lifestyle
Both looked incredible

Some people eat shit go clubbing and train half assed yet still look incredible because of the drugs.

The fact that people can go from pro bodybuilder to looking perfectly normal and back to pro bodybuilder again in six months proves that you are not really "building anything"

Just look how much Krizo shrank after his shoulder surgery to where he is now, he lost about 60lbs in 3 months.

Levrone, went from skinny fat to back on the Olympia stage in less than 6 months

The story of Flex turning up at Golds 215 out of shape and literally changing by the day to get back to 225 stage ready in a few weeks

The drugs are not just the finishing touch, they are the foundations

[BigRo]

Dorian was Mr Olympia, Cormier was not.

Of course your building muscle. Hormones are central but the work has to go in.

[joswift]

Dorian was Mr Olympia, Cormier was not.

Of course your building muscle. Hormones are central but the work has to go in.

you have the same amount of muscle fibres now than when you dropped all the size a few years ago.
So no, you are not building anything, you are simply expanding and stretching the ones you have.

Once you have had the size (previously stretched and expanded the fibres) 3 months back training and a course of gear will you have you back where you were previously.

Regained size is always much faster than new size.

Same way that if you dropped the drugs now and stopped eating all the food you would end up back at 190lbs.