Author Topic: Underrated "Mass Monster":World Bodybuilding Federation Champion, Gary Strydom  (Read 10002 times)

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After the 93 Olympia, there was a free poster of Dorian in Flex Magazine hitting a hands-clasped most muscular.


Gary said this about the poster: “that is not a Mr Olympia physique”

Wow based off of a single pose lol Gary has the better hands clasped most muscular for sure , the only other poses I could give to Gary are side chest and maybe front double biceps although it's not a strong pose for either of them but Dorian would bury him in almost every other pose that's how the Mr Olympia is won

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Wow based off of a single pose lol Gary has the better hands clasped most muscular for sure , the only other poses I could give to Gary are side chest and maybe front double biceps although it's not a strong pose for either of them but Dorian would bury him in almost every other pose that's how the Mr Olympia is won

93 Yates would definitely win the front Double Biceps over Strydom

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I doubt that, especially in 1994. That's assuming he could have regained and exceeded his WBF size after recovering from his shoulder injury.

A slightly-upgraded version of 1991 Strydom vs. Yates with a bloated waist, a torn bicep, and holding more water than the Hoover Dam? Strydom wouldn't have been invisible, standing next to that (especially if he weighed as much as Yates or more).

But, there was (perhaps) the factor of whether his getting paid on the 3rd year of WBF contract was contingent on his being off the anabolics. That was the case with Eddie Robinson; but he was still hocking ICOPRO supplements for two years.

Strydom had a bloated waist BTW

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93 Yates would definitely win the front Double Biceps over Strydom

I think so Gary's wasn't that great

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I think so Gary's wasn't that great
considering Dorian never Squatted later on his legs were outstanding

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1991 Strydom vs 1993 Yates

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I remember when Mike Quinn was asked about how 1993 Pro Ironman Invitational & 1993 Arnold Classic Champion Flex Wheeler was doing after prejudging.


Mike Quinn said something like this: “It’s like classy greyhound (Flex) trying to fight huge rottweiler (Yates). Nobody can beat Yates.”

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Mike Quinn's response when asked if Strydom was natural in 1992 lol Begins at 15:37  ;D




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From memory the testing back then was similar to the ifbb universe where you could get around it using test and HGH just had to time your levels with testing which wasn't random. Strydom just reacted well to test and high levels HGH. Back in those days HGH was expensive the bigger your contract the more you could use and Strydom was on the largest contract. What we saw were guys where that combo didn't work for them or they didn't have Garys budget.

Dr. Mauro Dipasquale claimed his protocols were much stricter than that. His test reportedly could detect Clenbuterol, HCG, dihydrotestosterone (DHT). Dipasquale also mentioned doing hormonal profiles to detect the use of exogenous testosterone, even when it's not detectable in urine. That sounds a lot stricter than the Universe protocols.

Side note - I've asked this question when the subject of Ronnie Coleman's early years pops up: If the Universe drug tests are so easy to pass, why didn't all these top amateurs (who just couldn't quite nab the USA, North American, nor Nationals) simply go to the Universe, win his class there, and turn pro the way Ronnie did? Matt Mendenhall, Edgar Fletcher, Dave Palumbo, Rory Leidmeyer, Dean Caputo, and (until 2000, Bob Chicherillo) plus a litany of NPC bridesmaids could theoretically have gone that route to snatch that elusive IFBB pro card.


I trained in the same gym with a lot of these guys in the same era and have watched many Olympias and pro shows always from up the front just behind the judges. McWay would have to be Gary to think he could hang on the level of Haney and Yates. Even Stevie wonder could see that Gary was a good pro, Haney was a legend, but Yates was unbeatable.

Bodybuilding not back building are you serious.  ???


Indeed! It's about the whole body. But every time someone even mentions Gary Strydom, here comes the deluge of rear-double-bicep and rear lat spread shots, especially from 1988......as if Haney and Yates didn't have weaknesses on their physiques.

Strydom looked like a relative crackhead in 1988 yet placed 5th at the Olympia. Yet somehow you're claiming that much BIGGER and fuller Strydom couldn't hang with Yates or Haney just three years later? That makes no sense. Strydom would be larger at 265 than either man in their respective 1991 forms in the 240s.

To me, it's not different than when some people talk about Arnold Schwarzenegger and pretended that the way he looked in 1974 is how he looked at every single Olympia he won.


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What's absurd is you actually think Strydom was clean or natural. Tests were routinely passed despite being on everything but the kitchen sink and I doubt there even was a test at all and like Royalty said the other guys said outright Strydom wasn't tested. That's more believable that he was tested and clean  ::) and Vince mentioned he wasn't as big but he was better  ::)

I said he was tested; that doesn't mean natural, especially since the drug testing had only started in March of 1992.

There wasn't a test? Did you forget about Mike Christian? He stated himself that he got fined a month's pay ($25,000) for popping positive on the drug test. So, how do you go from nobody being drug-tested to everyone but Strydom being tested?

And I mentioned the other WBF guys who stated that all of them (including Strydom) were screened.

Tony Pearson maintained that he didn't lose a dime during that period. (13:30)




Again, I saw the show on TV when it happened. McMahon claimed that "overall, he may even be better". Basically, Strydom shrunk but concentrated on being cut instead of keeping his size.


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I said he was tested; that doesn't mean natural, especially since the drug testing had only started in March of 1992.

There wasn't a test? Did you forget about Mike Christian? He stated himself that he got fined a month's pay ($25,000) for popping positive on the drug test. And I mentioned the other WBF guys who stated that all of them (including Strydom) were tested.

Tony Pearson maintained that he didn't lose a dime during that period. (13:30)




Again, I saw the show on TV when it happened. McMahon claimed that "overall, he may even be better". Basically, Strydom shrunk but concentrated on being cut instead of keeping his size.

Your implying he was natural because he was smaller than 1991. Noting it was tested is meaningless because tests are routinely bypassed if they were even implemented. it's all moot because no version of Gary is beating Haney or Yates from 1991 he still has the same flaws just heavier and less conditioned 

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93 Yates would definitely win any show
since bodybuilding exists.
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93 Yates would definitely win the front Double Biceps over Strydom


Only is the judges completely ignore two torn biceps

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Only is the judges completely ignore two torn biceps

He only tore one bicep and that was in 94 and overall it made no deference

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Your implying he was natural because he was smaller than 1991. Noting it was tested is meaningless because tests are routinely bypassed if they were even implemented. it's all moot because no version of Gary is beating Haney or Yates from 1991 he still has the same flaws just heavier and less conditioned 

;D

Don't you have to actually have testing for it to be cancelled (notwithstanding that it was merely "rumored" that McMahon wanted to scrap the protocols)? I'm sure Mike Christian's wallet would beg to differ with your assertion. ;D