Underrated "Mass Monster":World Bodybuilding Federation Champion, Gary Strydom

[Royalty]

Of course, Strydom was drug-tested and smaller than he was in 1991; Yates and Levrone weren't. Test all three of them or let them take whatever they want. Then you get a better assessment.

Strydom was on TONS of drugs in 1992. Screenshot from the video...

[oldschoolfan]

You can tell by Levrone’s face that he suffered through a precontest diet.

i still say to this day levrone looked his best in 92

[Royalty]

i still say to this day levrone looked his best in 92

Absolutely

[Royalty]

I've explained this to you multiple times before. Haney competed at 257lbs well before Dorian did and he said himself his conditioning was off. Haney couldn't compete at that weight and maintain his conditioning. In fact most bodybuilders can't Dorian could.


Dorian beat a career best Haney in the muscularity round despite being 10lbs lighter. Haney has his advantages and Dorian had his. If Dorian was his career best 1993 Olympia he would easily beat Haney at his. Dorian would be bigger , harder , drier and have better balance.

Strydom also lost to plenty of guys with better backs. Pointing that out doesn't mean he could do it against top tier bodybuilders, Lets face it Gary's competition in the WBF left a lot to be desired. They hyped Strydom up as a legit threat to Haney in 1988 and he was a bust came in 229lbs to be a shredded as possible and only managed 5th pretty respectable for a Olympia debut but it was evident he was hype. He did well for himself but pick a year and he's not beating Haney or Yates or any of the other top tier guys. He came back to the IFBB in 1996 and was 12th he injuries no ' drug tests '

ND, also, if the WBF had continued, Strydom would’ve eventually been dethroned by Aaron Baker.


Baker turned pro in 1990 and was steadily improving.

Strydom peaked in 1991, and he was on a slow decline from there

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[Royalty]

By 1994, Strydom would’ve lost badly to Aaron Baker

[Rambone]

Mass monster from the front and a bantamweight from the rear

[Rambone]

A bantamweight Dexter holding his own against Gary

[NarcissisticDeity]

Strydom was on TONS of drugs in 1992. Screenshot from the video...

Seriously  He was ' tested ' LMAO as if that means A) he wasn't on B) he didn't find away around the test C) there actually was a test

[Royalty]

Seriously  He was ' tested ' LMAO as if that means A) he wasn't on B) he didn't find away around the test C) there actually was a test

Several WBF guys said that Strydom wasn’t tested in 1992. We he did whatever he wanted to do.

[Royalty]

Yates was off in 1994, yes.... but a couple weeks after the Mr Olympia he peaked in Germany

[NarcissisticDeity]

Yates was off in 1994, yes.... but a couple weeks after the Mr Olympia he peaked in Germany

Dorian was off from 1993 but his off is eons better than Strydoms on

[NarcissisticDeity]

Gary was 229lbs in 1988 compared to Dorian's 228lbs at the Night of Champions

[MCWAY]

I've explained this to you multiple times before. Haney competed at 257lbs well before Dorian did and he said himself his conditioning was off. Haney couldn't compete at that weight and maintain his conditioning. In fact most bodybuilders can't Dorian could.

And I've explained this to you multiple times, just because Haney competed once at 257 but wasn't super shredded does NOT mean he couldn't achieve such a feat. He competed at 240 earlier in his career, too. But the 240 or so he was carrying in 1991 was much better than he'd been competing at that weight in prior years.

Dorian beat a career best Haney in the muscularity round despite being 10lbs lighter. Haney has his advantages and Dorian had his. If Dorian was his career best 1993 Olympia he would easily beat Haney at his. Dorian would be bigger , harder , drier and have better balance.

Strydom also lost to plenty of guys with better backs. Pointing that out doesn't mean he could do it against top tier bodybuilders, Lets face it Gary's competition in the WBF left a lot to be desired. They hyped Strydom up as a legit threat to Haney in 1988 and he was a bust came in 229lbs to be a shredded as possible and only managed 5th pretty respectable for a Olympia debut but it was evident he was hype. He did well for himself but pick a year and he's not beating Haney or Yates or any of the other top tier guys. He came back to the IFBB in 1996 and was 12th he injuries no ' drug tests '

It's called overdieting. There's a BIG difference (literally) between 229-lb Strydom in 1988 and 260-lb Strydom in 1991. The latter would have weighed more than both Haney and Yates, if Strydom hadn't jumped ship. My frame of reference has always been how those men look in 1991, not 1992 nor 1993.

As for Strydom's WBF competition, most of the pros there were top-10 Olympia placers (Robinson, Padilla, M. Quinn, Christian, DeMey). And that was in an era were placing top 10 at the O was worth more than winning other pro shows.

[MCWAY]

Strydom was on TONS of drugs in 1992. Screenshot from the video...

Seriously  He was ' tested ' LMAO as if that means A) he wasn't on B) he didn't find away around the test C) there actually was a test

I saw the contest the day it happened (I even taped it off the PPV, which cost me $15).

Strydom was obviously not as big as he was in 1991. Even McMahon mentioned that on the broadcast (see his '92 routine I posted).

Comparing a drug-tested Strydom with a Yates, who was allowed to take everything but the kitchen sink, is absurd.

Again, had both been tested or allowed to use whatever, you'd have a fairer comparison.

Several WBF guys said that Strydom wasn’t tested in 1992. We he did whatever he wanted to do.

The two that made the most fuss were the same ones who looked the worst at that show: Mike Christian (who ironically was accused of using a masking product to get past the drug test at the 1990 Olympia) and Mike Quinn. Christian got fined $25K (a month's pay) for popping positive (his being strung out on crack didn't help matters, either). Mike Quinn also had to cough up some bread.

Tony Pearson said everyone was tested; Eddie Robinson said much the same, as did Jim Quinn. Jim Quinn trained with Strydom for that show. In a MuscleMag interview, Quinn stated that Strydom was at 280 and he was nearly three bills when the hammer came down. They had size to spare. Plus they did (as Quinn put it) NOT make the mistake of following DiPasquale's diet.

[MCWAY]

ND, also, if the WBF had continued, Strydom would’ve eventually been dethroned by Aaron Baker.


Baker turned pro in 1990 and was steadily improving.

Strydom peaked in 1991, and he was on a slow decline from there

With Jim Quinn and Berry DeMey being larger than Baker, I doubt that. More likely, with Strydom's injury, the show would have been open.

[honest]

From memory the testing back then was similar to the ifbb universe where you could get around it using test and HGH just had to time your levels with testing which wasn't random. Strydom just reacted well to test and high levels HGH. Back in those days HGH was expensive the bigger your contract the more you could use and Strydom was on the largest contract. What we saw were guys where that combo didn't work for them or they didn't have Garys budget.

I trained in the same gym with a lot of these guys in the same era and have watched many Olympias and pro shows always from up the front just behind the judges. McWay would have to be Gary to think he could hang on the level of Haney and Yates. Even Stevie wonder could see that Gary was a good pro, Haney was a legend, but Yates was unbeatable.

Bodybuilding not back building are you serious.   

[Royalty]

With Jim Quinn and Berry DeMey being larger than Baker, I doubt that. More likely, with Strydom's injury, the show would have been open.

This says it all.

You know nothing about bodybuilding.

Prime Aaron Baker would absolutely destroy Jim Quinn.

[NarcissisticDeity]

And I've explained this to you multiple times, just because Haney competed once at 257 but wasn't super shredded does NOT mean he couldn't achieve such a feat. He competed at 240 earlier in his career, too. But the 240 or so he was carrying in 1991 was much better than he'd been competing at that weight in prior years.

It's called overdieting. There's a BIG difference (literally) between 229-lb Strydom in 1988 and 260-lb Strydom in 1991. The latter would have weighed more than both Haney and Yates, if Strydom hadn't jumped ship. My frame of reference has always been how those men look in 1991, not 1992 nor 1993.

As for Strydom's WBF competition, most of the pros there were top-10 Olympia placers (Robinson, Padilla, M. Quinn, Christian, DeMey). And that was in an era were placing top 10 at the O was worth more than winning other pro shows.

And I've explained this to you multiple times, just because Haney competed once at 257 but wasn't super shredded does NOT mean he couldn't achieve such a feat. He competed at 240 earlier in his career, too. But the 240 or so he was carrying in 1991 was much better than he'd been competing at that weight in prior years.

Yes it does that's exactly what it means. You know how we know? He never did. he came in to heavy and didn't make that mistake again. He competed at 240lbs early in his career except he was 249lbs in 1991 not the same. He said himself he couldn't maintain his conditioning & deep cuts at 257lbs in hypotheticaland maybe he could tie it all together and do it but we know what transpired. His best showing ever was the 1991 Mr Olympia at 249lbs

It's called overdieting. There's a BIG difference (literally) between 229-lb Strydom in 1988 and 260-lb Strydom in 1991. The latter would have weighed more than both Haney and Yates, if Strydom hadn't jumped ship. My frame of reference has always been how those men look in 1991, not 1992 nor 1993.

Oh yes there is a big difference Strydom at 260lbs is NOT as conditioned as he was at 229lbs just like Haney wasn't at 257lbs compared to 91 when he was 249lbs. Neither Strydom or Haney could touch Dorian's conditioning so his extra weight would account for nothing , just like Haney's didn't

As for Strydom's WBF competition, most of the pros there were top-10 Olympia placers (Robinson, Padilla, M. Quinn, Christian, DeMey). And that was in an era were placing top 10 at the O was worth more than winning other pro shows.

Okay , Olympia is another level we know how Gary did at the Olympia pretty respectable 5th place Dorian placed 2nd in his first Olympia and in fact never placed below second in any professional contest he ever entered. Strydom had easy work with past their prime DeMey and Christian and Pearson and a bunch of rookies but Dorian the exception to the rule. None of those guys would touch Dorian just like Gary wouldn't no matter how much he weighed.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I saw the contest the day it happened (I even taped it off the PPV, which cost me $15).

Strydom was obviously not as big as he was in 1991. Even McMahon mentioned that on the broadcast (see his '92 routine I posted).

Comparing a drug-tested Strydom with a Yates, who was allowed to take everything but the kitchen sink, is absurd.

Again, had both been tested or allowed to use whatever, you'd have a fairer comparison.

The two that made the most fuss were the same ones who looked the worst at that show: Mike Christian (who ironically was accused of using a masking product to get past the drug test at the 1990 Olympia) and Mike Quinn. Christian got fined $25K (a month's pay) for popping positive (his being strung out on crack didn't help matters, either). Mike Quinn also had to cough up some bread.

Tony Pearson said everyone was tested; Eddie Robinson said much the same, as did Jim Quinn. Jim Quinn trained with Strydom for that show. In a MuscleMag interview, Quinn stated that Strydom was at 280 and he was nearly three bills when the hammer came down. They had size to spare. Plus they did (as Quinn put it) NOT make the mistake of following DiPasquale's diet.

I saw the contest the day it happened (I even taped it off the PPV, which cost me $15).

Strydom was obviously not as big as he was in 1991. Even McMahon mentioned that on the broadcast (see his '92 routine I posted).

Comparing a drug-tested Strydom with a Yates, who was allowed to take everything but the kitchen sink, is absurd.

Again, had both been tested or allowed to use whatever, you'd have a fairer comparis

What's absurd is you actually think Strydom was clean or natural. Tests were routinely passed despite being on everything but the kitchen sink and I doubt there even was a test at all and like Royalty said the other guys said outright Strydom wasn't tested. That's more believable that he was tested and clean  and Vince mentioned he wasn't as big but he was better 

[NarcissisticDeity]

By 1994, Strydom would’ve lost badly to Aaron Baker

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[Royalty]

Gary if you’re reading this...  you talked shit about Dorian after the 1993 Olympia. Yes I remember that.

But you would’ve been TORCHED!!!  Everyone knew it then. Everybody knows it now.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Gary if you’re reading this...  you talked shit about Dorian after the 1993 Olympia. Yes I remember that.

But you would’ve been TORCHED!!!  Everyone knew it then. Everybody knows it now.

Really? What did he say? I don't recall this

[Royalty]

Really? What did he say? I don't recall this

After the 93 Olympia, there was a free poster of Dorian in Flex Magazine hitting a hands-clasped most muscular.


Gary said this about the poster: “that is not a Mr Olympia physique”