I finally read this thread and these harsh responses made me sad. No doubt there is degeneracy within the gay community but there are huge swaths of exceptions to that rule (normal people living normal lives and, yes raising solid children in some cases). And really - no degeneracy exists among straight people?? How about drug addiction, homelessness, alcoholism, abandonment, on and on. Just watch the local news. “Pride” may be a little over the top, I sort of agree that a person’s sexuality just is, and that’s about all there is to it. But the “pride” movement and the celebrations associated with that movement totally relate to historical shaming and discrimination, and from the comments here (on a bodybuilding site no less!), maybe that sort of “pride” remains fully relevant.